God or LORD God, Which is it?

[Renniks]

That is because you have been taught that there is only one creation.
Not true!

Lol, so who is this second God?

 

[DNB]

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Like I said, just the fact that you are unable to find a substantial amount of proof-text, which would undeniably be necessary, in order to support such a fundamental doctrine, precludes the veracity of your conclusion.
I will not jump to such an esoteric premise, based on the subtle differences between two chapters.

Normally I would just let you rave. But I have some time, so here.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Gen 1 God created them, "male and female created he them"
Gen 2 LORD God formed man "no female"

Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

Gen 1 God made the beast of the earth
Gen 2 LORD God formed every beast of the field and Adam gave names - not so in Gen 1

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My, how astute! You are an incredible exegete, you have discerned that there are clearly two different accounts of creation. And that the 2nd account was not a reiteration of the first account, in order to offer details that were not relevant to the point, in the first part.
By the same token, I guess that there were two different floods? For in one account of the flood, Noah brought 2 of each kind of animal on board, but in another account, he brought 7 clean, and two unclean of each kind.
Wow, 2 different floods. I guess that each deluge did not cover the entire earth respectively, for this to occur?

 

[Dcopymope]

God who is he?
A few years back I was watching a Professor of Theology giving a bible study on Genesis. His wife was Jewish and he also spoke about some of her knowledge.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
God created

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
God said, let us (had to be angels)

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
God created and had input from the angels

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

Now something new shows up ‘LORD’ which is not a title but the name of the same God of Gen 1 of which the Jew could not use because it was sacred. The Professor when he asked his wife why LORD is used. She said “there are many Gods, but only one LORD God of Israel. His name is scared so we replace it with LORD”.

Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

LORD God formed a man, no woman.

Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

This man was not told to go and replenish the earth, he was put in a garden.

Gen 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

Now, LORD God tells the man keep up the garden.

God created mankind and LORD God formed ‘Adam’ and then later ‘Eve’.

If you can grasp this, the whole bible will become new to you.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

LORD God formed every beast of the field, that would be domesticated animals.

Gen 2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

Gen 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

LORD God made a woman from the rib of Adam.

Do you see the difference between Gen 1 and Gen 2?

You can now read through your bible and know who LORD God represents.

Just in this short study one can see that there was a creation of mankind while the other was a man who was formed and this man has a covenant with God.

When you read through the Old Testament you will see !

Man, its mind boggling how people come to these conclusions. I see next to zero in Genesis 2 describing a different creation than Genesis 1. it doesn't even imply such a thing anywhere else in the book. It simply elaborates on how Adam and Eve was created and continues the narrative from there with the garden of Eden.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

My, how astute! You are an incredible exegete, you have discerned that there are clearly two different accounts of creation. And that the 2nd account was not a reiteration of the first account, in order to offer details that were not relevant to the point, in the first part.
By the same token, I guess that there were two different floods? For in one account of the flood, Noah brought 2 of each kind of animal on board, but in another account, he brought 7 clean, and two unclean of each kind.
Wow, 2 different floods. I guess that each deluge did not cover the entire earth respectively, for this to occur?

Thank you DNB,

It was a local flood.
I would explain that but "my o my" what does the scripture say?

Heb_5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[Renniks]

Thank you DNB,

It was a local flood.
I would explain that but "my o my" what does the scripture say?

Heb_5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

So, you aren't going to tell us who the other god is? It's always mystifying when some one comes on here with some off the wall theology, then refuses to flesh it out. It's like "Here's the truth, which no one but me has discovered, and you are all idiots for not getting it." And nothing at all about what this would mean for the whole rest of the Bible and for us if it were true.

 

[Dcopymope]

So, you aren't going to tell us who the other god is? It's always mystifying when some one comes on here with some off the wall theology, then refuses to flesh it out. It's like "Here's the truth, which no one but me has discovered, and you are all idiots for not getting it." And nothing at all about what this would mean for the whole rest of the Bible and for us if it were true.

Exactly, I'm wondering why I even bothered coming back to this cesspit of a website. The kings english, plain facts really don't matter here, nothing but confusion and vitriol.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

So, you aren't going to tell us who the other god is? It's always mystifying when some one comes on here with some off the wall theology, then refuses to flesh it out. It's like "Here's the truth, which no one but me has discovered, and you are all idiots for not getting it." And nothing at all about what this would mean for the whole rest of the Bible and for us if it were true.

God is God, but he has different functions.
Just like me, I am a man, I am a husband, and I am a father but I am still the same person.

God has two functions, one who created mankind and sent them out to replenish the earth, and another that he formed as his own children and his children knew his name was Jehovah but because that was Holy they replaced it with LORD.

Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

 

[DNB]

Thank you DNB,

It was a local flood.
I would explain that but "my o my" what does the scripture say?

Heb_5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
2Pe_3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Absolutely out there, on both accounts (Creation & the Flood). Not to be taken seriously RW, you'll do better reading and expounding on fictional narratives, rather than divine truth!

 

[Renniks]

God is God, but he has different functions.
Just like me, I am a man, I am a husband, and I am a father but I am still the same person.

God has two functions, one who created mankind and sent them out to replenish the earth, and another that he formed as his own children and his children knew his name was Jehovah but because that was Holy they replaced it with LORD.

Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

So, you think God created twice, based on the fact that one chapter gives different details than the other..so what does this mean for mankind? Are you saying one creation was us and the other created being were little gods? It still doesn't make any sense.

 

[Dcopymope]

So, you think God created twice, based on the fact that one chapter gives different details than the other..so what does this mean for mankind? Are you saying one creation was us and the other created being were little gods? It still doesn't make any sense.

I'm still trying to figure out why this thread is in the apologetics section of the forum. I don't know where it belongs other than the 'unorthodox doctrine section', where all other twisted beliefs reside that are straight from the twilight zone.

 

[Rocky Wiley]

So, you think God created twice, based on the fact that one chapter gives different details than the other..so what does this mean for mankind? Are you saying one creation was us and the other created being were little gods? It still doesn't make any sense.

Us? If you are from Adam in Gen 2 then you would be in the lineage of Israel. Otherwise, you are one of the races from Gen 1 and be called a gentile.
How do you explain the different races? Only way you could is by a form of evolution, think about it?

 

[r1xlx]

God who is he?
A few years back I was watching a Professor of Theology giving a bible study on Genesis. His wife was Jewish and he also spoke about some of her knowledge.
Just in this short study one can see that there was a creation of mankind while the other was a man who was formed and this man has a covenant with God.
When you read through the Old Testament you will see !

This is as nonsensical as most other posts on this forum,.

 

[r1xlx]

That is because you have been taught that there is only one creation.
Not true!

I'm sure Satan is delighted to have you trying to muddy the waters to make people lose faith...

 

[r1xlx]

Us? If you are from Adam in Gen 2 then you would be in the lineage of Israel. Otherwise, you are one of the races from Gen 1 and be called a gentile.
How do you explain the different races? Only way you could is by a form of evolution, think about it?

As you seem to come from a race of fools there is no way you can read and understand the Genesis account of the Tower of Babel, the Confusing of Languages or the Dividing of Earth in Peleg's day as being the reason why there are so many races that all have same colour, looks, language but are all human. You folks have heard of inbreeding emphasizing characteristics haven't you? It's right there in that monkey-to-man book you folks use in the one-room schoolshack.
I suggest you either go online and order some intelligence from Amazon or perhaps try appealing to one or other of the gods you think are in heaven.

 

[r1xlx]

Thank you DNB,

It was a local flood.
I would explain that but "my o my" what does the scripture say?

Oh my. Straight out of New Age and Evolutionists comic books.
You are seriously lacking in knowledge.
Open a Bible and read 1 Corinthians 12 and ask yourself why you never got any of those gifts and have to live in a dark foggy world ?

 

[Renniks]

Us? If you are from Adam in Gen 2 then you would be in the lineage of Israel. Otherwise, you are one of the races from Gen 1 and be called a gentile.
How do you explain the different races? Only way you could is by a form of evolution, think about it?

Not evolution. Yes, we changed, but the genetic coding is all there. True evolution would require additional information added to the code God created. So, two Adams? This is absolutely ridiculous. We have the geneologys in the Book. We don't have to make up silly theories.

 

[bbyrd009]

God or LORD God, Which is it?

you guys um decide here yet? Neither one, right?

 

[Dcopymope]

God or LORD God, Which is it?

you guys um decide here yet? Neither one, right?

Simple, its both.

 

[Enoch111]

If you are from Adam in Gen 2 then you would be in the lineage of Israel. Otherwise, you are one of the races from Gen 1 and be called a gentile.

Where did you come up with this bizarre idea? All human beings -- the entire human race -- has descended from Adam and Eve.

Genesis 1 is an overview, whereas Genesis 2 focuses on Adam and Eve and Eden. So it is an expansion of this passage from Genesis 1:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which isthe fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

As to the various ethnic groups (not really races), one has to go back to the three sons of Noah -- Shem, Ham, and Japheth. All the ethnic groups descended from these three (believe it or not).

 

[r1xlx]

Enoch, You're correct to say the various ethnic groups (not really races), one has to go back to the three sons of Noah -- Shem, Ham, and Japheth. All the ethnic groups descended from these three (believe it or not).
But so many people claim to be Christian and know the Bible but cannot understand what they read!
Let's keep trying to correct them in hopes they might learn.