Who will win the Democratic primaries?

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Who will win the Democratic primaries?

  • Bernie Sanders

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  • Joe Biden

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  • Michael Bloomberg

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  • Elizabeth Warren

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  • Other

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  • Total voters
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This is just meant to be a fun thread. No offense to be taken, haha. And there may be a pun or 2 or 3 or 4.

I think there's only 4 main democratic presidential candidates left now, could be wrong. But Amy Klosed the door, and Pete got booted in the leg and ran away. It's now Super Tuesday in the US of A, it's Wednesday here in Aus.

So the big question is who will win the Democratic primaries from here to face Donald Duck? I mean Donald Trump.

Can Comrade Bernie, burn the house down?

Can Barrack Obama II "bide" back?

Will Bloomberg cause an economical boom or a gold rush boom or will the berg bloom in spring and cause a icy spring?

Or will they just go running around the rabbit warren?

Have your say. ..
 
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I think most people who supported Buttigieg and Klobuchar will go with Biden. I honestly can't see too many of them going for Bernie. Many will see him as too extreme, and others will not vote for him since they know many independents see him as too extreme.

Saunders held a tiny lead over Biden this morning at Real Politics' "Betting Odds" page. The spread now (as I'm typiing) is Biden 59.4% and Saunders 22.8%. That looks right to me.

RealClearPolitics - Betting Odds - Democratic Presidential Nomination

The site 538 has predictions of how many delegates each will have. It changes all the time, of course. The odds there for no one having enough delegates to win on the first round of voting are 61%, Biden 31%, and Saunders 8%. The predicted number of delegates is Biden with 1738 and Saunders with 1363.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?

The best thing that could have happened for Saunders would have been if Warren had dropped out. I think most of her voters would have switched to him; but she's still in there, draining votes away from him and helping Biden.

Bloomberg? He's spent a lot of money donating to state committees and the campaigns of members of Congress. If no one wins the first round, those people get to vote. I guess he was hoping to bribe his way to get them as superdelegates to vote for him on the second round; but I can't see most of the party big wigs supporting him since they also see him as too extreme.

If Biden and Sanders went into the convention with the same number of regular delegates, Biden would win since more superdelegates would support him over Sanders. As it looks now, Biden will go into with an advantage of several hundred regular delegates. Sanders would need a miracle to win the nomination.

I can't see party big wigs supporting Sanders. As the polls sit now in the swing states, Biden fares better against Trump than Sanders does.
 

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I think most people who supported Buttigieg and Klobuchar will go with Biden. I honestly can't see too many of them going for Bernie. Many will see him as too extreme, and others will not vote for him since they know many independents see him as too extreme.

Saunders held a tiny lead over Biden this morning at Real Politics' "Betting Odds" page. The spread now (as I'm typiing) is Biden 59.4% and Saunders 22.8%. That looks right to me.

RealClearPolitics - Betting Odds - Democratic Presidential Nomination

The site 538 has predictions of how many delegates each will have. It changes all the time, of course. The odds there for no one having enough delegates to win on the first round of voting are 61%, Biden 31%, and Saunders 8%. The predicted number of delegates is Biden with 1738 and Saunders with 1363.

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?

The best thing that could have happened for Saunders would have been if Warren had dropped out. I think most of her voters would have switched to him; but she's still in there, draining votes away from him and helping Biden.

Bloomberg? He's spent a lot of money donating to state committees and the campaigns of members of Congress. If no one wins the first round, those people get to vote. I guess he was hoping to bribe his way to get them as superdelegates to vote for him on the second round; but I can't see most of the party big wigs supporting him since they also see him as too extreme.

If Biden and Sanders went into the convention with the same number of regular delegates, Biden would win since more superdelegates would support him over Sanders. As it looks now, Biden will go into with an advantage of several hundred regular delegates. Sanders would need a miracle to win the nomination.

I can't see party big wigs supporting Sanders. As the polls sit now in the swing states, Biden fares better against Trump than Sanders does.

Biden's up to 450 now winning by 74, they are still counting for Super Tuesday as I type this, and as expected there is still a lot of counting to go for California, so still a lot of delegates up for grabs there, and Bernie is smashing it in California as expected. But Biden is doing better in most of the other states so far.
 

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So the big question is who will win the Democratic primaries from here to face Donald Duck?
It makes no difference as to who will win the Democratic primaries. Not one of them is fit to be President.

And as long as people like you keep disrespecting Trump, the sane and sober citizens of the USA will keep voting for him.

Mr. Trump -- for all his faults and failings -- has done more for America and the ordinary American in three years than all the other presidents since Reagan. But all he gets is disrespect, because he exposes the lies and failures of the evil Leftists.

So I believe the Lord will continue to have His hand on Trump so that Satan cannot destroy America through Communism, Socialism, or any other Leftist Fascism.
 

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It makes no difference as to who will win the Democratic primaries. Not one of them is fit to be President.

And as long as people like you keep disrespecting Trump, the sane and sober citizens of the USA will keep voting for him.

Mr. Trump -- for all his faults and failings -- has done more for America and the ordinary American in three years than all the other presidents since Reagan. But all he gets is disrespect, because he exposes the lies and failures of the evil Leftists.

So I believe the Lord will continue to have His hand on Trump so that Satan cannot destroy America through Communism, Socialism, or any other Leftist Fascism.

You never know God could change one of those Democratic presidential candidates lives around, I believe in miracles.

And

There is still a very small minority of conservatives in the Democratic Party. None of the few are running for President though.

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I have not disagreed with everything Trump has done though, as I said there is good and bad.

It's pretty interesting though, the left wing probably would consider me far right, but an American right wing would probably consider me as centre right.

As my current views on refugees would be a bit too compassionate for a Republican's liking, they need to be keeping refugee families together, border wall or not, and taking in the ones that are really struggling, I am all for government funded healthcare as I believe it saves people greatly in times of need, without ripping their pockets. I also believe the general public should not have access to high powered weapons, and there needs to be stricter gun control there, the bad guys might have illegally have them still, but then there really needs to be a crack down on illegal weapons, as the whole aim is so less people shot dead, as I said in another thread, Domestic Violence is a massive thing, and if there is a gun in a house, in a moment of anger, people do get killed quite easily, and I don't think the majority of the forums understands mental health, anybody can have a turn, so there is my view on gun laws and there is a reason to have tough gun control laws, guns kill in a second, then what there was the case where some kid accidently killed their brother or sister at a shooting range in America? These things can be prevented. And then I am also a big believer in fair wages, I am sorry, but someone earning under 10 dollars or less an hour is just not fair, even 15 dollars is not fair, and some of those people work their butts off, 15 dollars an hour to make stuff in America is just not right, people need to make a living easier than that, either electricity bills need to be cut down, a CEO's salary cut down, or something, it doesn't have to result in moving factories overseas, what I am getting at, is there should be a fairer share of the money, America has some of the richest CEOs in the world.

So with those views I would possibly be banned from the American Republican party. Haha.

But here are some views you probably agree with, like marriage should only be between a man and woman, euthanasia should be illegal, the killing of babies should be illegal, I'm against illicit drugs. Prayer should be allowed in schools, talking about religion should be allowed in schools. And those 5 views is what would make a left winger call me far right.

My other views I first shared, would not be enough to outweigh a left winger's political view about me being far right. And you can see why all those views put together would put me centre right from a "American right winger's" perspective, in saying that, a UK and Aussie right winger's perspective is a little different though.

It's just my own guess about where I sit on the political left to right - scale.

But the way I see it, is Jesus was neither left wing or right wing.

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And yes I believe God can even change Bernie Sanders.
 

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Biden's up to 450 now winning by 74, they are still counting for Super Tuesday as I type this, and as expected there is still a lot of counting to go for California, so still a lot of delegates up for grabs there, and Bernie is smashing it in California as expected. But Biden is doing better in most of the other states so far.
A few more results came in with Biden now at 453 ahead by 80.

Bernie can count himself lucky so many people voted early in California. Lots of people had already voted before Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropped out. Wasted votes in other words. I doubt they would have voted for Sanders if they knew those two candidates would drop out.

My numbers are from: Election 2020: California primary results March 3, 2020

With about 3/4 of the votes counted, I see 6.8% got wasted on Buttigieg and 3.9% on Klobuchar. (Add others who dropped out for another 3.9%.) Biden probably could have won it if it had been just him and Sanders on the ballot since Sanders is ahead by less than 9%. You can see easily what happened: Most of the people on the far left voted for Sanders (although Warren did get over 12%) while the more moderate vote got fractured among candidates that weren't even running. It matters too when it comes to the number of delegates Biden and Sanders will get. It's probably safe to assume there will be calls to change how early people can vote in California.

The most amusing thing for me was that Bloomberg got 18 delegates after spending hundreds of millions of dollars. He was over $500 million a week ago. He probably topped it at $600 million. Thank goodness it was his own money; but I don't think I'd trust him with spending tax dollars if he wastes his own money like that. I was also amused that he lost Virginia after having donated so heavily to the Democratic Party and candidates there. He didn't get even one delegate in Virginia. Turns out Sanders was right about at least one thing when he said Bloomberg couldn't buy the election. . . .
 

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A few more results came in with Biden now at 453 ahead by 80.

Bernie can count himself lucky so many people voted early in California. Lots of people had already voted before Klobuchar and Buttigieg dropped out. Wasted votes in other words. I doubt they would have voted for Sanders if they knew those two candidates would drop out.

My numbers are from: Election 2020: California primary results March 3, 2020

With about 3/4 of the votes counted, I see 6.8% got wasted on Buttigieg and 3.9% on Klobuchar. (Add others who dropped out for another 3.9%.) Biden probably could have won it if it had been just him and Sanders on the ballot since Sanders is ahead by less than 9%. You can see easily what happened: Most of the people on the far left voted for Sanders (although Warren did get over 12%) while the more moderate vote got fractured among candidates that weren't even running. It matters too when it comes to the number of delegates Biden and Sanders will get. It's probably safe to assume there will be calls to change how early people can vote in California.

The most amusing thing for me was that Bloomberg got 18 delegates after spending hundreds of millions of dollars. He was over $500 million a week ago. He probably topped it at $600 million. Thank goodness it was his own money; but I don't think I'd trust him with spending tax dollars if he wastes his own money like that. I was also amused that he lost Virginia after having donated so heavily to the Democratic Party and candidates there. He didn't get even one delegate in Virginia. Turns out Sanders was right about at least one thing when he said Bloomberg couldn't buy the election. . . .

Well Bloomberg did say he was an alternative to Trump for those that like some of Trump's policies, but don't necessarily like Trump though. I think a lot of Democrats didn't like Bloomberg not just because he was rich man trying to win an election, but I think he also had a different view on transgenders, and a lot of the Democrats didn't like that.

Bloomberg is not doing as well as I expected, even though elections have been bought before.

What a waste of money though, I suppose though he has plenty of cash to splash.
 

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You never know God could change one of those Democratic presidential candidates lives around, I believe in miracles.

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There is still a very small minority of conservatives in the Democratic Party. None of the few are running for President though.

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I have not disagreed with everything Trump has done though, as I said there is good and bad.

It's pretty interesting though, the left wing probably would consider me far right, but an American right wing would probably consider me as centre right.

As my current views on refugees would be a bit too compassionate for a Republican's liking, they need to be keeping refugee families together, border wall or not, and taking in the ones that are really struggling, I am all for government funded healthcare as I believe it saves people greatly in times of need, without ripping their pockets. I also believe the general public should not have access to high powered weapons, and there needs to be stricter gun control there, the bad guys might have illegally have them still, but then there really needs to be a crack down on illegal weapons, as the whole aim is so less people shot dead, as I said in another thread, Domestic Violence is a massive thing, and if there is a gun in a house, in a moment of anger, people do get killed quite easily, and I don't think the majority of the forums understands mental health, anybody can have a turn, so there is my view on gun laws and there is a reason to have tough gun control laws, guns kill in a second, then what there was the case where some kid accidently killed their brother or sister at a shooting range in America? These things can be prevented. And then I am also a big believer in fair wages, I am sorry, but someone earning under 10 dollars or less an hour is just not fair, even 15 dollars is not fair, and some of those people work their butts off, 15 dollars an hour to make stuff in America is just not right, people need to make a living easier than that, either electricity bills need to be cut down, a CEO's salary cut down, or something, it doesn't have to result in moving factories overseas, what I am getting at, is there should be a fairer share of the money, America has some of the richest CEOs in the world.

So with those views I would possibly be banned from the American Republican party. Haha.

But here are some views you probably agree with, like marriage should only be between a man and woman, euthanasia should be illegal, the killing of babies should be illegal, I'm against illicit drugs. Prayer should be allowed in schools, talking about religion should be allowed in schools. And those 5 views is what would make a left winger call me far right.

My other views I first shared, would not be enough to outweigh a left winger's political view about me being far right. And you can see why all those views put together would put me centre right from a "American right winger's" perspective, in saying that, a UK and Aussie right winger's perspective is a little different though.

It's just my own guess about where I sit on the political left to right - scale.

But the way I see it, is Jesus was neither left wing or right wing.

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And yes I believe God can even change Bernie Sanders.
You're being too kind to yourself by calling your view, "compassionate".
 
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I also believe the general public should not have access to high powered weapons, and there needs to be stricter gun control there, the bad guys might have illegally have them still, but then there really needs to be a crack down on illegal weapons, as the whole aim is so less people shot dead, as I said in another thread, Domestic Violence is a massive thing, and if there is a gun in a house, in a moment of anger, people do get killed quite easily, and I don't think the majority of the forums understands mental health, anybody can have a turn, so there is my view on gun laws and there is a reason to have tough gun control laws, guns kill in a second
Illegal guns are, already, well, illegal. If you make more laws, you just farther restrict law-abiding citizens right to defend themselves.
Do you really think that criminals and mentally ill people care about laws?
 
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You never know God could change one of those Democratic presidential candidates lives around, I believe in miracles.
God changes the lives of those who surrender to Him, repent, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. But He pours out His wrath on the enemies of God and Christ. And that in a nutshell is the position of every Democrat. They all support abortion, which is murder. They all support lawlessness and anarchy. They all supported the bogus Witch Hunt's against Trump. They all use hatred as a political weapon.
 
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Illegal guns are, already, well, illegal. If you make more laws, you just farther restrict law-abiding citizens right to defend themselves.
Do you really think that criminals and mentally ill people care about laws?

But in the case where they add more guns to that illegal list, they need to crack down hard on it, and they already do need to crack down hard on it, too many gangs with guns. This is about keeping people safe, criminals don't care, that's why they need guns ripped out of their hands, but as I said mental illness can happen to anyone, it can happen to an any ordinary American, it can happen to any ordinary Australian, and it's dangerous to have 250,000,000 million people with such easy access to weapons that kill instantly in USA, weapons you can't even run from in your own house.
 

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...too many gangs with guns.
So why not go after the gangs rather than the guns? The problem is that the law enforcement and justice systems are broken in the Western world. The gangsters are protected while the law-abiding citizens are hounded.

And many of the gangsters are holding political office. Obama, Clinton, Biden, and all their cohorts should have been behind bars already.
 

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So why not go after the gangs rather than the guns? The problem is that the law enforcement and justice systems are broken in the Western world. The gangsters are protected while the law-abiding citizens are hounded.

And many of the gangsters are holding political office. Obama, Clinton, Biden, and all their cohorts should have been behind bars already.

Well obviously they need to do something about it. Democrat or not gangs still run around in America.
 

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And both Democrats and Republicans need be addressing the question. Of how can we get to the source of this gun problem, and stop it? How can we get right to the factories and suppliers that the criminals are getting their weapons from? And stop them.
 

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Biden now winning by 65. So just over a quarter of the way maybe a third in counting delegates?

3979 is up for grabs in total. Biden might get the required number of 1991 to win, it's looking like a real possibility now, it's probably only a matter of time before the other ones drop out of the race.

Biden - 566
Sanders -501
 

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But in the case where they add more guns to that illegal list, they need to crack down hard on it, and they already do need to crack down hard on it, too many gangs with guns. This is about keeping people safe, criminals don't care, that's why they need guns ripped out of their hands, but as I said mental illness can happen to anyone, it can happen to an any ordinary American, it can happen to any ordinary Australian, and it's dangerous to have 250,000,000 million people with such easy access to weapons that kill instantly in USA, weapons you can't even run from in your own house.
So, you are saying I should give up my guns because it's going to keep me safer? Hogwash. The police are at least 20 minutes away. If I ever need help, by the time they get here, I'm already dead, unless I defended myself. Which happens way more often than someone flipping out and going on a killing spree. A gun you don't have easy access to is worthless.
 
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Biden now winning by 65. So just over a quarter of the way maybe a third in counting delegates?

3979 is up for grabs in total. Biden might get the required number of 1991 to win, it's looking like a real possibility now, it's probably only a matter of time before the other ones drop out of the race.

Biden - 566
Sanders -501
I see Bloomberg woke up and smelled the coffee, so he's out now. Biden should win Florida big now since Bloomberg was sucking supporters away. The percentages in Florida really shifted when Bloomberg got in.

If Warren stays in and splits the far-left vote, Sanders could lose really big in Florida.
 
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And both Democrats and Republicans need be addressing the question. Of how can we get to the source of this gun problem, and stop it? How can we get right to the factories and suppliers that the criminals are getting their weapons from? And stop them.
Let's stop the manufacturer of cars too, then they kill way more people. And airplanes. And knives. And rocks, something must be done about those dangerous rocks!