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Featured Who do you think will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

Discussion in 'Current Events & Politics Forum' started by Josho, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. Donald Trump

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  2. Joe Biden

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  3. Not sure

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  4. Kanye West

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  1. Josho

    Josho Millennial Christian Staff Member

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  2. Jay Ross

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    Since this is an American affair, I will leave them to wallow in their own BS's versions of reality.

    Did not Jeremiah tell the Jews to focus on the country they had been taken into and bless it rather than worry about what might have been somewhere else?

    Here in Oz we have enough BS to wallow in and coat ourselves with a thick enough layer to protect us from the midges, mosquitos, flies and horse flies as best we can.
     
  3. Willie T

    Willie T Heaven Sent Staff Member

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    It isn't a matter of Trump or Biden. Even the Democrats know Biden is a dottering old fool who would forget to put his pants on if his wife didn't remind him. The Dem's hope is to simply get one of theirs in there, no matter what kind of slobbering dolt they have to elect to do it.
     
  4. Josho

    Josho Millennial Christian Staff Member

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    No elections a part from the Qld state election, I guess you could make a topic, can the Katter Party win majority? Haha
     
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    farouk Well-Known Member

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    So what is the Katter Party? :rolleyes:
     
  6. Josho

    Josho Millennial Christian Staff Member

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    I will leave that for another Topic
     
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    Jay Ross Well-Known Member

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    But the point I was making would also be valid if I started a thread as you suggest as it would be an irrelevant for most other members of the forum because of their lack of understanding in what I was posting. I know that there are Oz's who are either pro Democrats or Republican parties from the thumb nail reports that we see and read here in Oz. The Us population have a big enough problem understanding what is occurring in their our nation, let alone for a country like Oz. My opinions on the US Presidential elections is irrelevant and as such I do not comment on that topic, just as I would not expect a US citizen to be able to express their opinion on what is occurring in Oz.

    I was gently trying to suggest that this thread, started by an Aussie, is inappropriate when the topic is only relevant to someone from the US. If they believe that this topic should be discussed by US members so be it, but for other country member of this forum to offer their opinion is a little presumptuous on our part.
     
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    Josho Millennial Christian Staff Member

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    Just a bit fun, I like doing polls? Nothing wrong with that lol
     
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    Personally I would hate for any Party that has open slather on abortion to be in government or have their candidate as President.
     
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    As the polls stand today, Biden is ahead in six swing states that Trump won in 2016. Trump is not ahead in any states that Hillary carried except in New Mexico where he's doing a paltry 0.22% better than in 2016. He's still behind there by 8%, so I don't expect him to win there even if he could shift it more.

    My calculations are preliminary of course; but the tally in electoral votes shows Biden winning with 331 electoral votes to Trump's 200. Trump has logistical problems in some of those swing states that are leaning now to Biden.

    Florida could go either way. Trump won there by 1.2% and Biden's current lead is 0.2%. It might depend on who can get voters to turn out better.

    Trump won Wisconsin by 0.77%. Biden is ahead there by 2.7%. I think it looks grim for Trump in Wisconsin. Those 13,000 jobs he promised never happened. (Story here: Foxconn Promised 13,000 Jobs To Wisconsin. Where Are They?) His assurances to dairy farmers didn't pan out either with some smaller farmers going out of business. That happened before the coronavirus hit.

    https://www.dairyherd.com/article/wisconsin-loses-818-dairies-2019-largest-decline-state-history

    As of Jan. 1, 2020, Wisconsin had 7,292 licensed dairy farms. On Jan. 1, 2019, the number stood at 8,110. In the last decade, the state lost 5,637 dairy farms, a decrease of 44%. That also suggests the rate of dairy famer loss has more than doubled the last few years.

    The number of Grade A dairies in Wisconsin is now 6,574; the number of Grade B dairies is 718 which includes 470 farms still shipping milk in cans.

    Cow numbers have also declined slightly. In November of this year (the latest numbers available), the estimated number of dairy cows stood at 1,265,000, or 7,000 head less than a year ago. Cow numbers, however, had been fairly stable over the past decade. Ten years ago, Wisconsin reported cow numbers at 1,258,000.

    In other words, Wisconsin farms have grown fewer but larger. Using these numbers, the average herd size in Wisconsin is about 170 cows per herd today. In 2009, it was roughly 100 cows per herd.

    Total milk production has also soared some 20%. Numbers have not yet been totaled for 2019. In 2018, Wisconsin produced 30.6 billion pounds of milk. Ten years ago, the state produced just over 25 billion pounds of milk.


    The shift has been greater in Ohio, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Michigan. I'd say Ohio and Pennsylvania are hopeless for Trump. He won Ohio by a decent margin of 8.13% but Biden is ahead there now by 8%. That's a big shift that tells me sentiment's changed a lot. He won Pennsylvania by a whisker --0.72% -- with Biden ahead now by 3%. Arizona is grim where he won by 3.54% but is lagging behind Biden now by 4.4%.

    Biden however is running a campaign that looks more inept to me than Hillary's in 2016. He was further ahead but has been slipping lately in several states, slipping here a little and there a little. Biden and Trump both look like Alzheimer's patients to me but Trump still has more energy. I'm beginning to think Biden may be on some medication we don't know about. Maybe he should get on Sudafed -- as some say Trump is. I also am beginning to doubt the competence of Biden's campaign staff. I realize it's hard to get publicity when Trump gets free television time almost every day; but I don't hear anything from the Biden camp that is worth making the news. On the contrary, when they do issue statements, we find out later some were wrong factually. Good grief! Some people do care about accuracy. Trump supporters may not care if he makes outrageous inaccurate statements; but I think many people do care and they'd like to vote for someone who doesn't make misleading or outright untrue statements. Biden should be campaigning as "the honest alternative" to Trump. He doesn't seem to know that. He also seems to lack imagination to be able to come up with new ideas to solve the current problems. He's stale.

    In a way, the election may become a referendum on Trump. People who vote for Biden may be voting more against Trump than voting for Biden.

    It's early. Things can change. One thing that could develop into an important factor is how Trump is encouraging protests now. He did that by calling for "revolution." (What is he now, a Communist or something?) He mentioned three states in his "revolution" comments -- and he's behind Biden in all three. Michigan 4.4% Minnesota 12% Virginia 7.3% There appears to be a few hidden forces behind these groups of protesters that are popping up. Trump may not know who's behind them.

    In Pennsylvania, some of the protesters thought it a good idea to bring their guns to protest the stay-at-home orders. Story here: See what the Harrisburg protest over Pennsylvania stay-at-home order looked like.

    Maybe the protesters don't care if they get infected. They didn't seem to care how close they got to other people. T Trump may be creating a problem for himself by encouraging such protests. Trump seems to be trying to undermine the authority of the governors. He may think it clever to annoy Democratic governors, but I think some Republican ones are also annoyed. Republican Governor Dewine of Ohio has my sympathy. He's trying his best to do what he thinks is right for Ohio while not getting into a public fight with Trump.

    I'm not predicting a civil war; but things could get ugly if Trump keeps encouraging protests. It could also mean Biden wins in a landslide.
     
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    Never underestimate the democrat ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. But this one might take everything they have.

    The worst thing from a republican standpoint is that Texas is in play; Trump is up abut 2% according to the RCP summary of polls. He's going to have to put some time and money into a state that should have been an easy win.

    Trump will never accept losing, no matter how badly he loses. The big deal is that if it's close, he might try to overturn the election to stay on.
     
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    Texas is close. Trump won there by 8.99%. Several factors are in play there. One is an increase in Latino voters. It seems a matter of time before the state turns blue unless Republicans know how to appeal to Latinos. I rather like George Prescott Bush who is Texas Land Commissioner and active in trying to attract Latinos to the Republican Party. Ha, his mother was born in Mexico. He speaks Spanish fluently of course. Trump is making his job harder. . . .

    What happens with the price of oil will probably also affect the outcome of the election in Texas. Trump was quick to announce the "deal" he got Russia and Saudi Arabia to agree to; but it was not that great of a deal. The cuts agreed to were enough only to stall things. People were still producing too much oil. Trump had to bribe Mexico into agreeing to cut its production by promising them a loan. Good luck trying to get that paid back if indeed Trump saw they got the loan. Mexico had already hit its highest debt ever -- over 50% of its GDP. Now the price of oil hit negative territory for a while. Producers had so much oil, they were briefly paying people to take it off their hands. I think it safe to predict bankruptcies in Texas. Trump says he's working on it to arrange loans. Some companies say they couldn't repay loans.

    Trump calls for U.S. oil industry bailout as prices plunge

    As revenue has plummeted and assets have declined in value, some companies are saying they may be unable to repay.

    Whiting Petroleum Corp became the first major producer to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy on April 1. Others, including Chesapeake Energy Corp, Denbury Resources Inc and Callon Petroleum Co, have hired debt advisers.


    I guess his next step may be to ban importing any foreign oil.

    That 2.6% advantage he has in Texas could melt away. If oil workers are laid off, it will affect other businesses. One poll in February had Biden ahead by 1%. Trump got a boost from another February poll which had him up 4%. It will be interesting to see later polls for Texas when RCP. posts them.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    It was prophesied in 2007 that Trump would become president and he will serve 2 terms.
    In 2007 Trump had not even mentioned a run for president. Oprah Winfrey had him on her show years back and asked if he would consider running for president and he flat out said no.
     
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    Josho Millennial Christian Staff Member

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    Hmmm I also saw another prophecy, this one for a 2024 election that Mike Pence would win, if all are fulfilled this would mean a Republican government for 3 straight terms
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    The first link is Kim Clement...2007(may he rest in peace)
    The second is a fireman by the name of Mark Taylor....2011
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    The Democratic party is becoming transparent and not in a good way.
    God told me he was going to expose the corruption in our government and this would cause the scales to fall off many peoples eyes.
     
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    Well I'm betting on Satan winning, as usual. [​IMG]
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    Seriously you didn't mean that....:)
    He never wins....he only appears to win. He lost all battles on the day Jesus died and went to hell and took away the keys and who now has all authority over him.:D
     
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    :) Pretty sure Satan is still roaming to and fro the earth like a roaring lion seeking whom he may have for breakfast. None of that changed just because Jesus reconciled the creation unto his Father. The day we see Satan get locked away in the pit is the day I can say with certainty that he "lost", when he is no longer the "prince of this world". Until then, its business as usual.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    That's because they don't know how to use His Word against him...but yes you are right to some point.
     
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