Ok. If you say so. I'm done here.
I wish you were done here.
But you keep telling lies about what the Catholic Church teaches.
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Ok. If you say so. I'm done here.
A Catholic will never agree because they have their own agenda fed to them since the Catholic church took over simple Christianity and added a mix of all sorts of pagan influences. And I don't say that to deliberately offend Catholic brothers and sisters but because it is true and hopefully they will see it one day.
The false doctrines that I have identified are not in the Bible at all. Therefore if it ain't in the Bible then it is false and a lying fraud.
I know. And this has gone round and round for a long time and they will not be convinced by truth but choose to believe what they have been brain-washed into believing rather than God.Good question.
And why would the wife of Joseph not have a sexual relation with him after Jesus' birth?
When were they told...Do not multiply?
Glory to God,
Taken
And this entire post is a prime example of WHY you are an anti-Catholic.Rat poison is 99.6% great food for rats! But it is the .4% poison that kills them stone dead.
The RCC has many good, sound, Scriptural doctrines, that many in the Church are genuinely saved. I have no doubt about that. I am not anti-Catholic. My wife was brought up and educated Catholic. I went on a site that contained the Hail Mary and other Catholic prayers, and she could recite them from memory! I heard her aunt sing "Ave Maria" beautifully, and she has a cousin who is a Catholic priest.
But, the RCC has certain doctrines that are the equivalent to rat poison for Christian believers - prayers to Mary and the Saints, worshiping the container that contains the wafer, kneeling and worshiping statues of Mary and Christ, the pagan Mass, confessing to a mortal priest instead of directly to God, faith plus works, observing the authority of the pope and following his teaching instead of listening to the indwelling Holy Spirit. Because these doctrines are killers that poison the faith of true believers, then I am in opposition to them, and can have no fellowship with those doctrines.
Then produce one.There are definite prayers to Mary that say that Christ will accept only those who come through Mary for salvation, because He will not deny any request made on behalf of sinners made to Him by her.
Even if I did provide evidence from the things I have read you would still say it was lies and that they - the authors of those books - had no evidence. I have the scriptures as do you but you have been taught to interpret them in a different way.Mun: 719869 said:No it isn't true and you provide no evidence to back up that claim
Exactly.But the 2nd Commandment clearly states that we should not make any graven image and worship it, this includes images of God, Mary, Christ, or the Saints. All the images do is to form an imaginary mental image of ones own comfortable god, which is actually no god at all.
And this is a textbook example of a lying anti-Catholic.It is still idolatry - violation of the 2nd Commandment - worship of a graven image. Shortcut to hell.
Presented like a typical deceitful anti-Catholic.Foolish talk precedes your lack of UNDERSTANDING!
Ex 20:4
[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
What do understand that to mean?
This is absolute nonsense.Are they being 'respectful' to him or anyone else who don't believe as they do? Respect goes both ways, except I guess on this forum since apparently only those who identify as Catholic are allowed to verbally abuse others without any blow back.
It is actually a good thing to consider pearl. But the only reason Christ came along was because He was being taken for ride. Odds are...and I say odds are, since we know so little of this census, children did not have to make the trip. They probably only had to register the number of children and gender. Again I am using the words odds are and probably.If Joseph already had a big family I wonder why they weren't required to go to Bethlehem with him to be registered in the census along with Joseph and Mary.
Even if I did provide evidence from the things I have read you would still say it was lies and that they - the authors of those books - had no evidence. I have the scriptures as do you but you have been taught to interpret them in a different way.
If offence is take it is not because someone does not agree, but the manner in which they disagree.CC:
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Virgin Mary had other Children After Jesus.
Virgin Mary remained a Virgin.
Mary was naturally born without sin.
Mary committed no sin.
Mary was Bodily taken to Heaven.
A Catholic believes these things, and takes offense toward others who do not agree with these things.
Presented like a typical deceitful anti-Catholic.
Ummmm, next time - try posting the ENTIRE Commandment - and NOT just the first part . . .
Exod. 20:4-6
Thou shalt NOT MAKE "UNTO" THEE any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt "NOT" bow down thyself to them"NOR" serve them
SERVE (worship) them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
As I have schooled you MANY times now -
if this Commandment were against the "creation" of images - GOD Himself would be guilty for commanding Moses to create Two Golden cherubim to place atop the Ark. He would have also violated this Commandment by commanding Moses to create a Bronze Serpent and place it on a pole.
YOUR
problem, as always, is that you are dishonest - so you cherry-pick verses of Scripture instead of presenting them in their proper context.
By the way - YOU would also be guilty of carrying an image of yourself in your wallet as well as all of the photos on your mantle of Uncle Ed and Aunt Winnie . . .
If offence is take it is not because someone does not agree, but the manner in which they disagree.
Using words like demonic, pagan, rat poison etc does not back up claims. Evidence does.
WRONG, as usual.It has already been established you and I have DIFFERENT understandings....and YOU are incapable of OF having a conversation with anyone without you First giving a personal Attack.
You require the Whole Text... then pay attention to the Whole Text...
Serve does not mean Worship!
Your Namecalling and Blabbing is Not Schooling.. get a q-tip, your "self-claimed" teaching has been rejected!
Utter nonsense...
God Directing Moses....IS UNTO God...not a man's IDEA...made UNTO THEE!
Exod. 20:4-6
Thou shalt NOT MAKE "UNTO THEE" any graven image,
God DID NOT direct Anyone to make ANY "supposed" Images of God, of Christ Jesus, of Mary...UNTO HIM Or UNTO THEE...
Yet based on the IDEAS of men, calling themselves Catholics Do, make Statues, pictures, rosaries, etc.
It is not dishonest to give an appropriate Scriptural response...you simply was not keen enough to UNDERSTAND what I presented...
and further was not even keen enough to UNDERSTAND, what you presented.
BTW...you pretending you know me is more of your nonsense.
Since when does the carnal world care about all the deceptive groups, all the government and religious and corporate deception,The truth is that the RCC is a deceptive fraud, pretending to be a Christian church. There is no "sugar coating" the truth, however unacceptable that might be to some.
everyone who was required to register did - big families and small families.Good question.
And why would the wife of Joseph not have a sexual relation with him after Jesus' birth?
When were they told...Do not multiply?
Glory to God,
Taken
In the Hebrew or Greek , etc, in many English translations, where "worship" is used, "serve" is appropriate also.Serve does not mean Worship!