Virgin Mary Had Other Children After Jesus

[Joseph77]

Calling someone's deeply held beliefs "rat poison" is being anti that group.

But Jesus always said what the Father in heaven directed Him to say,
and likewise told His disciples to do the same thing, even being honest speaking to those who serve satan and who worship demons and who practice idolatry.

When the Father directed Jesus OR the disciples to expose those who are frauds, hypocrites, sons of the devil or sons of disobedience,
then that is what Jesus OR the disciples DO.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

But Jesus always said what the Father in heaven directed Him to say,
and likewise told His disciples to do the same thing, even being honest speaking to those who serve satan and who worship demons and who practice idolatry.

When the Father directed Jesus OR the disciples to expose those who are frauds, hypocrites, sons of the devil or sons of disobedience,
then that is what Jesus OR the disciples DO.

On this forum we acknowledge ALL whom claim Christ as brothers & sisters in Christ. That's forum rules.

That includes Catholics.

 

[Joseph77]

On this forum we acknowledge ALL whom claim Christ as brothers & sisters in Christ. That's forum rules.

That includes Catholics.

THANK YOU.
I did not think that was so, from the threads I read .... nor would I ever suspect it would be true in any place that claimed Jesus as Savior.
However, from now on, I will address the teachings of the false religions, instead of the persons believing them.
As God Permits.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

THANK YOU.
I did not think that was so, from the threads I read .... nor would I ever suspect it would be true in any place that claimed Jesus as Savior.
However, from now on, I will address the teachings of the false religions, instead of the persons believing them.
As God Permits.

Forum rules also require such to be done in a RESPECTFUL manner.

 

[Joseph77]

Forum rules also require such to be done in a RESPECTFUL manner.

Most people do not respect Jesus.

And they continue posting daily.

What do you think should be done for them ?

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Most people do not respect Jesus.

And they continue posting daily.

What do you think should be done for them ?

Love and treat every person with respect.
Even those that hate you.
Even those that you hate and consider enemies.

If you want to be on a Protestant-only forum, there's a lot of them out there.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Remove the flowery language and they are simply requests fir intercessory prayer.

Good grief . . .

There are definite prayers to Mary that say that Christ will accept only those who come through Mary for salvation, because He will not deny any request made on behalf of sinners made to Him by her.

 

[Paul Christensen]

I'm not closed to what the gospel is all about.
Unteachable! Who are you to teach me the truth of the gospel. Your posts show you don't know them.
If you can't put your own arguments forward it implies you don't have any - just insulting memes.

All I am doing is saying what the Bible says about how to be saved. I have tried to say it respectfully, but truthfully, yet I am having to receive nasty, spiteful, acidic abuse in return. But then, the mouth speaks what is really in the heart, doesn't it?

 

[Paul Christensen]

I can't find them on the vatican web site.
Please can you give me a link.

The references are at the end of each quote. You can google them and they should come up on a number of Catholic sites.

 

[Paul Christensen]

When we Catholics pray to the the Lord - we approach Him on our KNEES in worship and humility as Scripture says:
Rom. 14:11
For it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”

For Catholics, we see a statue or an image or even a church building as a VENUE to pray - NOT as the cause for our prayer. If those people in the pictures above were actually praying TO the statues - they would have to believe that the STATUE was a god.
That's the very definition of an "idol".

Your ignorance is astounding . . .

But the 2nd Commandment clearly states that we should not make any graven image and worship it, this includes images of God, Mary, Christ, or the Saints. All the images do is to form an imaginary mental image of ones own comfortable god, which is actually no god at all.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Nobody prays TO the monstrance where the Eucharist is displayed.
They are praying to CHRIST who IS the Eucharist. That's why the wording on the side of the image says "Sacred HOST" - not "Sacred Monstrance."

Once again - your dishonesty is as despicable as your desperation is pathetic . .

It is still idolatry - violation of the 2nd Commandment - worship of a graven image. Shortcut to hell.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Calling someone's deeply held beliefs "rat poison" is being anti that group.

A much more respectful stance would be to "respectfully & passionately disagree". Acknowledge the good, acknowledge the bad. Skip the part where comparing someone's treasured beliefs with dead rodents.

The truth is that the RCC is a deceptive fraud, pretending to be a Christian church. There is no "sugar coating" the truth, however unacceptable that might be to some.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

The truth is that the RCC is a deceptive fraud, pretending to be a Christian church. There is no "sugar coating" the truth, however unacceptable that might be to some.

You're on a forum in which the rules dictate ALL whom acknowledge Christ as their Savior are acknowledged as Christians. That's just forum rules.

if you or anyone else want a Protestant-only forum there's a lot of them out there.

 

[Grailhunter]

Rat poison is 99.6% great food for rats! But it is the .4% poison that kills them stone dead.

The RCC has many good, sound, Scriptural doctrines, that many in the Church are genuinely saved. I have no doubt about that. I am not anti-Catholic. My wife was brought up and educated Catholic. I went on a site that contained the Hail Mary and other Catholic prayers, and she could recite them from memory! I heard her aunt sing "Ave Maria" beautifully, and she has a cousin who is a Catholic priest.

But, the RCC has certain doctrines that are the equivalent to rat poison for Christian believers - prayers to Mary and the Saints, worshiping the container that contains the wafer, kneeling and worshiping statues of Mary and Christ, the pagan Mass, confessing to a mortal priest instead of directly to God, faith plus works, observing the authority of the pope and following his teaching instead of listening to the indwelling Holy Spirit. Because these doctrines are killers that poison the faith of true believers, then I am in opposition to them, and can have no fellowship with those doctrines.

 

[Paul Christensen]

You're on a forum in which the rules dictate ALL whom acknowledge Christ as their Savior are acknowledged as Christians. That's just forum rules.

if you or anyone else want a Protestant-only forum there's a lot of them out there.

I'm not denying that there are many in the Catholic church acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. All I am doing is pointing out false doctrine in it that can corrupt and poison their faith.

I have tried to be respectful about it, but not in a way that compromises what I see in the Bible as the truth. The truth is not always pleasant to those who don't want to hear it.

But the acidic, nasty, acrimonious responses from RCCs on the forum gives me a good, clear impression of what is in their hearts, because out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks (Matthew 12:34).

So, all I have to do is to just read the abusive comments directed at me, and I know then what really is in a person's heart. People who love the Lord and others from their heart don't pour out acidic abuse like that when their pet doctrines are challenged.

To find out whether a barrel is full of honey or acid, all one has to do is to kick it.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

I'm not denying that there are many in the Catholic church acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour. All I am doing is pointing out false doctrine in it that can corrupt and poison their faith.

I have tried to be respectful about it, but not in a way that compromises what I see in the Bible as the truth. The truth is not always pleasant to those who don't want to hear it.

But the acidic, nasty, acrimonious responses from RCCs on the forum gives me a good, clear impression of what is in their hearts, because out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks (Matthew 12:34).

So, all I have to do is to just read the abusive comments directed at me, and I know then what really is in a person's heart. People who love the Lord and others from their heart don't pour out acidic abuse like that when their pet doctrines are challenged.

To find out whether a barrel is full of honey or acid, all one has to do is to kick it.

If you're uncomfortable with being respectful to Catholics, then you being on a forum where the rules require you to be respectful to them is probably not a good idea.

 

[Dcopymope]

If you're uncomfortable with being respectful to Catholics, then you being on a forum where the rules require you to be respectful to them is probably not a good idea.

Are they being 'respectful' to him or anyone else who don't believe as they do? Respect goes both ways, except I guess on this forum since apparently only those who identify as Catholic are allowed to verbally abuse others without any blow back.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

Are they being 'respectful' to him or anyone else who don't believe as they do? Respect goes both ways, except I guess on this forum since apparently only those who identify as Catholic are allowed to verbally abuse others without any blow back.

Does somebody else behaving badly permit you to behave badly?

 

[Paul Christensen]

To Grailhunter: And?

 

[Paul Christensen]

If you're uncomfortable with being respectful to Catholics, then you being on a forum where the rules require you to be respectful to them is probably not a good idea.

Maybe you should be telling them the same, because they are certainly not being a bit respectful to me. In fact, their responses bring their Church into disrepute and advertise accusative, abusive, acrimonious and acidic behaviour as normal for them.