You claim that there are no laws that a believer must obey - that means there is no law against stealing. If you say that a believer cannot steal, that means there is a law against stealing - in which case, you've contradicted yourself.
Are You Free From The Law?
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See now you have run out of defenses, attack like a cornered wolf.
Love has no laws, if you need laws you are not in Christ as Christ is like God is love.
You know laws
1Ti_1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
seems you are still a sinner
I was going to add
Mar_11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
but your faith is in your religion.
Mar_11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
but your faith is in your religion.
What you should have said was, "Thank you for showing me how I can avoid coming across as an uneducated drongo."
If there is no law against stealing, a believer is free to steal, is he not?
Is a believer free to steal or not? If not, why not? Please answer the question.
As I said, if you need laws than you are not walking in love. there is no law against love, is Love a problem for you, seems to be for most of the religious, love condemning people.
No but that does not mean there is any law. .does your religion make you so ignorant.
1Co_13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.
1Co_13:4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
1Co_13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1Co_13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
hope that helps.
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Jesus judge them and stated he NEVER KNEW THEM
It is sad that the words never and forever seem to be symbolic in your belief.
how can a person have ever been saved if God NEVER knew them?
There are two judgments
You want to be at the great white throne, All the power to you. But I warn you. No one gets out of that judgment alive
Me? I will be at the bema judgment, Where I am judged for my works and receive reward or see my works burnt in fire.
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this is really getting old.
Jesus paid for all sin with the exception of the sin of unbelief.
No one will go to hell because of personal sin. They Go because as Jesus said, they are condemned already because they have not believed in the name of Jesus
Again, BEMA seat is for believers. who will be resurrected by Christ
GREAT WHITE THRONE is for death and hades who will be delivered to Christ
if I was you I would chose the BEMA seat.
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"its like this and
like that and
like this"
"there is, after all, condemnation in those who are in Christ, eh?"
like that and
like this"
"there is, after all, condemnation in those who are in Christ, eh?"
Truly I tell you, the publicans and prostitutes are entering the kingdom ahead of you.
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yup; dont let well-meaning believers convince you that Jesus is a get-out-of-jail free card!
If you dig a pit for others to fall into, you end up in it yourself
one can easily notice that they always talk as if they knew something, for absolute sure? Both Scripture and science have determined that they do not know what they are talking about, and you may reliably ignore them
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YES I AM! -- a SIN-forgiven redeemed. You see this, <<1Ti_1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,>> THAT'S ME! ONLY for the love, grace and forgiveness of the Most Holy God, that's me, saved.
1Corinthians 13 is THE LAW IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP; no one can be Christ because God in Christ is "love" - "charity" - NO ONE NEVER FAILETH
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A believer follows the law of love, love your neighbor you will not steal
when a believer fails, not only is he cut to the heart, he is chastened by god, and his conscious is against him
I do not understand how you, claiming to be a child of God, has never experienced this
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This about says it all
laws are made for the sinner, not righteous
a righteous person does not need the law, because when he sins, he takes his punishment and does not try to get out of it, because he knows he did wrong, he did not need a law to tell him what he already knew
Like I said, Christ is not a religion, you know.
Mat_16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Joh 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
Thats why Christians follow Christ
But Im glad you are no longer under teh law.
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