What can I trust most in the translations of the Bible?

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alaskadrifter

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You are so far off base. How can the modern versions be the most accurate if they clearly attack Lord Yahshua / Jesus Christ? And removes bible verses?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Because they weren't there....Im NOT trying to say that KJV and NKJV are bad at all. I think they are a perfectly legitimate version. The original KJV came at a time when an accurate English version was desperately needed. These days that fact is if you ask someone what the "best" translation is, just about everyone will give you a different answer.If everyone could read Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic that would be great! But most can't, so that is why we need translations.
 

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The KJV or the NKJV both are very good Bibles. I prefer the NKJV as it is more of a study Bible. We also use the "Evidence Bible" KJV. But most importantly which ever you choose, pray and seek God's guidance when studying any version.
 

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You are so far off base. How can the modern versions be the most accurate if they clearly attack Lord Yahshua / Jesus Christ? And removes bible verses?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
Because they weren't there....Im NOT trying to say that KJV and NKJV are bad at all. I think they are a perfectly legitimate version. The original KJV came at a time when an accurate English version was desperately needed. These days that fact is if you ask someone what the "best" translation is, just about everyone will give you a different answer.If everyone could read Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic that would be great! But most can't, so that is why we need translations.Do you even know what's the difference between The Byzantine Texts and The Alexandrian Texts?I don't even know why humans will continue to attack Christ for no reason. This comment of yours is very much in vain, try saying that to other people who loves Truth and can see clearly see the deceptions of these lies. I don't even trust the NKJV at all...Perhaps maybe you should say that to the topic under my sig?Satan dwells in Christianity if you have not notice it?JagLovest thou in Christ Yahshua, Lord and Saviour of the world.
 

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okayI guess I know what the Bible means by people perverting God's word now...
? Seen daily on forums .......
it's so confusing. And to think that some of the stuff I read may be a lie
95% or more of all that is published in the world is false, confusing, attempting to prevent anyone from finding God's Kingdom, and seeking to drag everyone down to destruction, according to simple Scripture.
 

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This thread is over 10 years old, I don't think any of these members are active on these forums anymore.

But if we are talking about Bible translations, the translators have done a good thing translating it from the Hebrew and Greek to other languages, throughout history this has been a way of spreading the word of God to other races that speak foreign languages.

I do not know Greek or Hebrew either, and many other English speaking people don't, many Chinese speaking people don't, many Spanish speaking people don't, a lot of Arabic speaking people don't, a lot of Swahili speaking people don't, a lot of Dutch speaking people don't and the list goes on and on, a lot of people do not know Greek or Hebrew.

So we really should be thanking God for who He has used to translate scripture into our own languages, it's really a blessing to be able to read the Bible in your own language for all those races, and those races I didn't mention above.
 
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People seeking God want to see what God says, and it seems often one or another translation will 'speak' to them,

perhaps God speaking to them for the first time ?
 
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People seeking God want to see what God says, and it seems often one or another translation will 'speak' to them,

perhaps God speaking to them for the first time ?

God understands every language in this world, that also includes simple English and the more complex English, old English and Modern English. I am just saying the Word of God has been translated, so it can reach the 4 corners of the earth.

Translators have used their talents to spread the word of God into other nations. Even if it may only be in written form.
 

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@Joseph77

This thread is over 10 years old, I don't think any of these members are active on these forums anymore.

But if we are talking about Bible translations, the translators have done a good thing translating it from the Hebrew and Greek to other languages, throughout history this has been a way of spreading the word of God to other races that speak foreign languages.

I do not know Greek or Hebrew either, and many other English speaking people don't, many Chinese speaking people don't, many Spanish speaking people don't, a lot of Arabic speaking people don't, a lot of Swahili speaking people don't, a lot of Dutch speaking people don't and the list goes on and on, a lot of people do not know Greek or Hebrew.

So we really should be thanking God for who He has used to translate scripture into our own languages, it's really a blessing to be able to read the Bible in your own language for all those races, and those races I didn't mention above.


All good. As long as it is remembered that it isn't the translation that is inspired but the original text. It is a good thing to learn the languages of the bible. Especially if one is to teach from it.
 

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How did God , in ACTS, reach people from all the nations ?

He used apostles to reach other people through Evangelism as being led by the Holy Spirit to do so, and the cycle went on.

The spreading of Gospel by word of mouth is one way, but God can also use other ways, whether it be dreams and visions, or missionaries giving the Bible to others in their own language. God can also speak through the written word.
 
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EXB
There were some ·religious [devout; God-fearing] Jews ·staying [living] in Jerusalem who were from every ·country [nation] ·in the world [L under heaven].

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Now there were then residing in Jerusalem Jews, devout and God-fearing men from every country under heaven.

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And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

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Now there were Jews staying in Jerusalem, devout people from every nation under heaven.

CEB
There were pious Jews from every nation under heaven living in Jerusalem.

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Now there were staying in Yerushalayim religious Jews from every nation under heaven.

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Many religious Jews from every country in the world were living in Jerusalem.
 

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"PHILLIPS
Now there were staying in Jerusalem Jews of deep faith from every nation of the world. When they heard this sound a crowd quickly collected and were completely bewildered because each one of them heard these men speaking in his own language. They were absolutely amazed and said in their astonishment, “Listen, surely all these speakers are Galileans? Then how does it happen that every single one of us can hear the particular language he has known from a child? There are Parthians, Medes and Elamites; there are men whose homes are in Mesopotamia, in Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus, Asia, Phrygia, Pamphylia, Egypt, and the parts of Africa near Cyrene, as well as visitors from Rome! There are Jews and proselytes, men from Crete and men from Arabia, yet we can all hear these men speaking of the magnificence of God in our native language.”"
 
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The common consensus of prominent Bible Scholars over the past few decades, is that the New American Standard Bible is the most accurate literal translation of the Bible, and it has undergone a number of updates over the years, addressing accuracy.

But these days we have BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible with over 50 versions, which I find educational.
 
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The common consensus of prominent Bible Scholars over the past few decades, is that the New American Standard Bible is the most accurate literal translation of the Bible, and it has undergone a number of updates over the years, addressing accuracy.

But these days we have BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 150 versions and 50 languages. where you can read over 50 different versions, which I find educational.

Hmm can you read it in any other languages? :D
 

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Hmm can you read it in any other languages? :D
Nope!! Especially for myself. I have enough trouble understanding English!! :)

But if you want a site that provides Strongs' for each word in the text, then Biblehub.com is the place to go. Biblehub also provides access to a whole bunch of commentaries.
 
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In Spirit. Revealed by the Father - as Jesus "Breathed" on the disciples and opened their minds to understand.
Always Perfect Harmony with His Breathed, Inspired Written Word, the Bible.

Hmm can you read it in any other languages?
 

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The question you should be asking is not whether they were removed from the KJV, but whether they were removed from the Greek/Hebrew. Like I said, you cannot deny that the original is more authentic than the KJV.
I'll trust the Byzantine Texts over the Alexandrian Texts anyday because the Byzantine Texts is received by EVERYONE. The Alexandrian Texts loves to be kept a "secret.

History and the existing manuscripts do not lie...

The Text "Received by EVERYONE" in the first 500 years of Christianity was the Alexandrian Text, since the Byzantine Text was not even in existence! No evidence exists for the Byzantine Text in the Early Church!

Since only the Alexandrian and Western Texts are proven to exist in the first four centuries, and the Alexandrian Text was dominant, thanks for proving too much with the "Received by Everyone" argument!
 

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fwiw, a few (too many) years ago, I read that that text (Alex....) was altered on purpose by some who were not even Christian. (and at the time , it was supposedly known)
 

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History and the existing manuscripts do not lie...

The Text "Received by EVERYONE" in the first 500 years of Christianity was the Alexandrian Text, since the Byzantine Text was not even in existence! No evidence exists for the Byzantine Text in the Early Church!

Since only the Alexandrian and Western Texts are proven to exist in the first four centuries, and the Alexandrian Text was dominant, thanks for proving too much with the "Received by Everyone" argument!
Among themselves the Alexandrian and Western varieties of text diverge a lot, whereas the Byzantine are relatively more uniform.