Are You Free From The Law?

[Eternally Grateful]

It would be best if everyone stick to the facts, and stick to Scripture - post something TRUE from Scripture and go from there, eh?

i.e. stop falsely accusing the posters who are sticking to Scripture and who are rightly replying to posts that are contrary to Scripture.

Again?

I mean really??

It would be best if you practiced what you preach maybe??

Just because people disagree with you, does not mean they believe contrary to scripture.

 

[Joseph77]

Again?

I mean really??

It would be best if you practiced what you preach maybe??

Just because people disagree with you, does not mean they believe contrary to scripture.

Exactly! That's why the Scripture is posted showing when something contrary to Scripture is posted.
(hopefully , anyway).

I disagree with everyone who disagrees with Scripture. Period. So does Jesus. Period. So does the Father in heaven. Period.

Everyone seeking God's Kingdom is supposed to line up with Him, His Word, and His Way, not with myths or with false messages.

'practice' what you preach?' .... you have still not given any Scripture to support your ideas about Jacob and Esau, as far as I know. The thread set up on purpose for you (or anyone else) to do so is still there, I think (I'll check , God Willing, shortly).

If any of your ideas about Jacob and Esau are true biblically, in complete harmony as stated and as found in Scripture, GOOD ! Post the SCRIPTURE. The ideas you posted were countered by others who know Scripture, not just myself, asking for SCRIPTURE from you to support your ideas. So far? Nada. (if posted somewhere, good)

 

[Joseph77]

The mark is perfection. And every one of us falls short of that.

Let's look to Scripture, okay ?

The first step was Jesus', telling His disciples they must be perfect, right ? ( this is confirmed in Scripture, but the fulfillment also is seen in the New Testament, in God's Word, as He Says, Declares and Points out..... so what were the "steps" ( as seen in Scripture) .... ) ......... from start (Jesus' saying) to completion (in the NT) ?

Also, in Hebrews, there is a strong warning to be aware of, 'to be sure' no one falls short......

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Exactly! That's why the Scripture is posted showing when something contrary to Scripture is posted.
(hopefully , anyway).

I disagree with everyone who disagrees with Scripture. Period. So does Jesus. Period. So does the Father in heaven. Period.

Everyone seeking God's Kingdom is supposed to line up with Him, His Word, and His Way, not with myths or with false messages.

'practice' what you preach?' .... you have still not given any Scripture to support your ideas about Jacob and Esau, as far as I know. The thread set up on purpose for you (or anyone else) to do so is still there, I think (I'll check , God Willing, shortly).

If any of your ideas about Jacob and Esau are true biblically, in complete harmony as stated and as found in Scripture, GOOD ! Post the SCRIPTURE. The ideas you posted were countered by others who know Scripture, not just myself, asking for SCRIPTURE from you to support your ideas. So far? Nada. (if posted somewhere, good)

This is not about jacob and Esau. I answered that along time ago

This is what the Standard of God is

please stick on subject

 

[Joseph77]

This is not about jacob and Esau. I answered that along time ago

This is what the Standard of God is

please stick on subject

Give a link to any thread/ post if you did answer about Jacob and Esau. I only saw one or two posts where you falsely claimed Jacob was as profane as Esau - thus still contrary to Scripture. ( as others who replied to your false unscriptural idea pointed out clearly).

Stick with Scripture.

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

God does not hate anyone

He proved this when he sent his son to die for all mankind.

His son died so they also have no excuse remember? In short, his died to save the world of God and condemn the world of men

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

Wow interesting, what book you get that out of. One question how can Perfect love Hate????? Thats like mixing light and darkness, you cant

You're an idiot dude. As for what book, why do I need a book? Tell me why I need a book. As for perfect love and stuff, God only has perfect love for himself and as a result his own. If he loved those who hated him it would not be perfect since perfect love is a jealous love and loving his enemies like you describe would not be jealous. He was perfect love for himself and his own and perfect hate for idiots like you

 

[Eternally Grateful]

His son died so they also have no excuse remember? In short, his died to save the world of God and condemn the world of men

Yep. But he will not force you or anyone to receive his gift

If you do not receive it, Well thats on you and all who reject him

They will suffer the fate we all deserve.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You're an idiot dude. He was perfect love for himself and his own and perfect hate for idiots like you

really??

Do you know how this makes you look?

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

It would be best if everyone stick to the facts, and stick to Scripture - post something TRUE from Scripture and go from there, eh?

i.e. stop falsely accusing the posters who are sticking to Scripture and who are rightly replying to posts that are contrary to Scripture.

Yep. But he will not force you or anyone to receive his gift

If you do not receive it, Well thats on you and all who reject him

They will suffer the fate we all deserve.

Yeah, you're kind of wrong about that. No one's will is free in the sense it's independent of God's control.

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

really??

Do you know how this makes you look?

I'm aware to idiots like you it makes me look like a hateful, spiteful being. However, maybe you should get your pride checked and come back. If you do, you'll see a different story.

 

[APAK]

I'm aware to idiots like you it makes me look like a hateful, spiteful being. However, maybe you should get your pride checked and come back. If you do, you'll see a different story.

Ron, if I can call you that, can we/you break down all the main points you want to make again so I can at least understand them. Let me go first and you can edit it and then add another point as we go along. I want to take what you may have said on this thread and any other thread recently where you have spoke about the applicability of the Law, then, today and standing in perfectly in Christ. And I do know that being in Christ we do not need to consult the written word of God, as his Spirit is there within us, Amen.

1. I seem to understand that you believe the commandants we obey today are from God. And the commandments of the OT under the old Law are now embedded in the Law of Christ within our hearts, being and standing in Christ. And this 'new' Law now equates to the will and purpose of God. It that what you believe?

Bless you,

APAK

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

Ron, if I can call you that, can we/you break down all the main points you want to make again so I can at least understand them. Let me go first and you can edit it and then add another point as we go along. I want to take what you may have said on this thread and any other thread recently where you have spoke about the applicability of the Law, then, today and standing in perfectly in Christ. And I do know that being in Christ we do not need to consult the written word of God, as his Spirit is there within us, Amen.

1. I seem to understand that you believe the commandants we obey today are from God. And the commandments of the OT under the old Law are now are embedded in the Law of Christ with in our hearts, being and standing in Christ. And this 'new' Law now equates to the will and purpose of God. It that what you believe?

Bless you,

APAK

No, and I shall clarify this misunderstanding. The will of God has always been the law since he is the one and only law maker. In the OT, he added various practices to his will for various reasons. Now, he's removed them with the advent of Christ. So the law we now follow is the will of God in it's eternal form. This is the law Christians follow.

 

[Joseph77]

To me and some others, that sounds just like a false gospel, fwiw.

 

[APAK]

No, and I shall clarify this misunderstanding. The will of God has always been the law since he is the one and only law maker. In the OT, he added various practices to his will for various reasons. Now, he's removed them with the advent of Christ. So the law we now follow is the will of God in it's eternal form. This is the law Christians follow.

So then you essentially agree with what I said. I too believe this. And thanks for clarification, although I suspected you were speaking of these things already. Yes, our Law today is via the Spirit and his will for all Christians. all Law throughout time for mankind came from him and is still operating today..and the written scripture does have your back here...APAK

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

To me and some others, that sounds just like a false gospel, fwiw.

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[APAK]

To be fair and honest there is several scripture for how the 'Law' has changed since Christ. For two of them: Christ came to fulfill the Law, in himself through the Spirit. And if we are truly in Christ then we have this Law. This Law is now within and written in our hearts per scripture. We are definitely standing in this Law because we are being perfected in Christ; as it is the will of the Father.

How can we obey our Father's commandments and please him? As that his is will that we obey him? There is no other way but to be in Christ first, a true believer?

Just saying, APAK

 

[Joseph77]

To be fair and honest there is several scripture for how the 'Law' has changed since Christ. For two of them: Christ came to fulfill the Law, in himself through the Spirit. And if we are truly in Christ then we have this Law. This Law is now within and written in our hearts per scripture. We are definitely standing in this Law because we are being perfected in Christ; as it is the will of the Father

Just saying, APAK

Truthfully, I think in Scripture the only 'change' is Jesus by Promise becoming the one and final and eternal High Priest.

 

[RonaldMcjeraldMcjerald]

Truthfully, I think in Scripture the only 'change' is Jesus by Promise becoming the one and final and eternal High Priest.

What is your authority: truth of the bible? You say the bible because the bible is truth, however this is wrong. The culimation of writings you call the bible contains a very, very, very tiny amount of truth when it comes to amount. There is a whole lot of truth outside the bible. However, you make the bible the WHOLE truth. So sure, there is a little, tiny bit of truth in the bible, but it's not the truth so you can't go quoting it as an absolute like you do

 

[APAK]

Truthfully, I think in Scripture the only 'change' is Jesus by Promise becoming the one and final and eternal High Priest.

Yes he is our high priest, the final and eternal one, indeed Joseph as the Father permitted it...as you know I'm not a Trinitarian so I cannot change titles to suit others etc. I just use scripture as it reads... It is the Father's will and never the Son's will for this subject under study.