The "Israel of God": Who are they?

[Tong2020]

Galatians 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.

They are, in my reading of scriptures, no other than the Christians, both Jewish and Gentile Christians.

They are those whom Peter identified as a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own special people.

They are those whom Paul identified as being children of promise.

They are those whom John described as those born of God.

They are those whom Jesus identified as the sons of the Kingdom.

Etc..

Tong
R0122

 

[bbyrd009]

and you interpret that to mean "Christians?"
i mean rather than as many as walk according to this rule?
i suggest that "Christian" is not the standard, fwiw

 

[Tong2020]

and you interpret that to mean "Christians?"
i mean rather than as many as walk according to this rule?
i suggest that "Christian" is not the standard, fwiw

Tell us, who are the Israel of God spoken of by Paul in Gal. 6:16?

Tong
R0123

 

[bbyrd009]

Tell us, who are the Israel of God spoken of by Paul in Gal. 6:16?

Tong
R0123

I would guess those that do the will of Yah, they are the sons of Yah

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Who is the israel of God in Rom 11. Those who are blinded in part. but shall all be saved?

is this the same Israel of God as found in the passage you used (gal 6)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them,

here is one group of people

and upon the Israel of God.

here is another group of people. (And upon them)

 

[Tong2020]

Who is the israel of God in Rom 11. Those who are blinded in part. but shall all be saved?

is this the same Israel of God as found in the passage you used (gal 6)

The Israel of God is not the ethnic Israel spoken of in Romans 9. As I said in the OP, the Israel of God are no other than the Christians, both Jewish and Gentile Christians.

Tong
R0126

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Israel of God is not the ethnic Israel spoken of in Romans 9. As I said in the OP, the Israel of God are no other than the Christians, both Jewish and Gentile Christians.

Tong
R0126

So gods promises to Israel are no longer in effect according to Lev 26

 

[Tong2020]

16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them,

here is one group of people

and upon the Israel of God.

here is another group of people. (And upon them)

Yes, there seems to be two groups, but not really two groups of two different people. The "them" refers specifically to all such persons, be they Jews or Gentiles, circumcised or uncircumcised, who walk according to the rule that Paul there speaks of, and the "Israel of God", not only is a further description of that particular group of persons, but refers to the general group of people that they belong.

Tong
R0127

 

[Tong2020]

So gods promises to Israel are no longer in effect according to Lev 26

That is all part of the covenant that God made with the children of Israel whose mediator is Moses. There is now a new covenant whose mediator is Jesus Christ, that replaced the former covenant.

God's promises stands, but now according to the new covenant.

Tong
R0128

 

[Enoch111]

Galatians 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.

This statement should not be taken out of context. It is true that BELIEVING ISRAEL during the Church Age is "the good olive tree" into which the Gentile branches of "the wild olive tree" have been grafted. The first church was the Jewish church at Jerusalem, and it had primacy throughout the Apostolic Age. Thus the Church may be regarded as "the Israel of God" (spiritually).

At the same time -- and here is where thousands stumble -- God has a distinct eternal plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel ON EARTH (after the Second Coming of Christ), just as He has an eternal plan and purpose for the Church IN THE NEW JERUSALEM in Heaven.

 

[Jay Ross]

This statement should not be taken out of context. It is true that BELIEVING ISRAEL during the Church Age is "the good olive tree" into which the Gentile branches of "the wild olive tree" have been grafted. The first church was the Jewish church at Jerusalem, and it had primacy throughout the Apostolic Age. Thus the Church may be regarded as "the Israel of God" (spiritually).

At the same time -- and here is where thousands stumble -- God has a distinct eternal plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel ON EARTH (after the Second Coming of Christ), just as He has an eternal plan and purpose for the Church IN THE NEW JERUSALEM in Heaven.

I am not sure that the suggested timeline that you are suggesting is at all correct. Perhaps, your statement is based on the wrong avoidance theological understanding that you cling to.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Yes, there seems to be two groups, but not really two groups of two different people. The "them" refers specifically to all such persons, be they Jews or Gentiles, circumcised or uncircumcised, who walk according to the rule that Paul there speaks of, and the "Israel of God", not only is a further description of that particular group of persons, but refers to the general group of people that they belong.

Tong
R0127

Then in my view he would never have separated the two

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is all part of the covenant that God made with the children of Israel whose mediator is Moses. There is now a new covenant whose mediator is Jesus Christ, that replaced the former covenant.

God's promises stands, but now according to the new covenant.

Tong
R0128

Salvation has always been by faith, no one was saved by the old, that’s why the new had to be made

but I am not talking about the salvation promises

God made specific promises which had nothing to do with salvation

according to Lev 26 do they still stand

 

[Tong2020]

Then in my view he would never have separated the two

Of course there is reason why Paul said what he said there. "And upon the Israel of God" ~ has something to do with the vain boasting of the Judaizers, specifically those he mentioned in verses 12-13, who brag and boast of being the descendants of Abraham according to the flesh (Israelites). It's sort of an indirect ridicule to them.

Tong
R0130

 

[Tong2020]

Salvation has always been by faith, no one was saved by the old, that’s why the new had to be made

but I am not talking about the salvation promises

God made specific promises which had nothing to do with salvation

according to Lev 26 do they still stand

As I said, those are all part of the Mosaic Covenant (OT). Now, some more than 2000 years ago, that covenant was replaced by a new covenant. Would you say that what is in the former which had been made obsolete and was replaced by a new covenant stays to be effective? Obviously that is not the case.

Do you not believe that the old covenant was no more? Or do you believe that it still is in effect today?

Tong
R0131

 

[Eternally Grateful]

As I said, those are all part of the Mosaic Covenant (OT). Now, some more than 2000 years ago, that covenant was replaced by a new covenant. Would you say that what is in the former which had been made obsolete and was replaced by a new covenant stays to be effective? Obviously that is not the case.

Do you not believe that the old covenant was no more? Or do you believe that it still is in effect today?

Tong
R0131

Like I Said, that covenant was made a nation and said to be an eternal promise,,has eternity ended?

I have asked you about Lev 26 multiple times, why have you yet to mention it

 

[Tong2020]

Like I Said, that covenant was made a nation and said to be an eternal promise,,has eternity ended?

I have asked you about Lev 26 multiple times, why have you yet to mention it

I had answered that concerning Lev 26 the number of times you assed me about it. What do you want me to say?

I already told you that Lev 26 is part of the Mosaic Covenant (OT). There is now a new covenant whose mediator is Jesus Christ, that replaced the former covenant. What is in the former covenant which includes that in Lev 26, had been made obsolete, and was replaced by a new covenant and so are no longer effective.

If that does not satisfy you, I don't know what you want for me to say. Do you want me to say that the promises to Israel in Lev 26 are still effective?

Tong
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[Tong2020]

This statement should not be taken out of context. It is true that BELIEVING ISRAEL during the Church Age is "the good olive tree" into which the Gentile branches of "the wild olive tree" have been grafted. The first church was the Jewish church at Jerusalem, and it had primacy throughout the Apostolic Age. Thus the Church may be regarded as "the Israel of God" (spiritually).

At the same time -- and here is where thousands stumble -- God has a distinct eternal plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel ON EARTH (after the Second Coming of Christ), just as He has an eternal plan and purpose for the Church IN THE NEW JERUSALEM in Heaven.

It was not taken out of context sir. Are you implying that I took it out of context?

Tong
R0136

 

[Nancy]

Galatians 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.

They are, in my reading of scriptures, no other than the Christians, both Jewish and Gentile Christians.

They are those whom Peter identified as a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own special people.

They are those whom Paul identified as being children of promise.

They are those whom John described as those born of God.

They are those whom Jesus identified as the sons of the Kingdom.

Etc..

Tong
R0122

I tend to believe this is speaking of the believing Jews.

Romans 11:26
And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
“The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;