Satanism In The Vatican

[Taken]

BOL

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Jesus is FULLY Man and FULLY God.

God IS Spirit.
Gods Word IS Spirit.
Humans Are Not Spirits.
Spirits CAN and DO appear IN the Likeness of human men...
They do not Become Human Men.
Human men Do not Become spirits!

Spirits CAN and DO Appear, Look like, act LIKE, Do things LIKE Human men...Yet they are NOT CREATED Human men.

You seriously believe The Word of God...was Created by Mary's Seed...having her DNA? LOL.

You think Preaching the Word of God is Complete Opposites...the Everlasting Creator "AND" the CREATED Human...gets you ON once Side of the Division OR the Other?

It Doesn't. It perches you upon the Fence...

The Word of God BROUGHT...DIVISION to Mankind.

Luke 12:
[51] Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

You suppose your Teaching of your complete Opposite Beliefs...
Will Leave you comfortably perched on the Fence?
It Won't.

Matt 12:
[30] He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

You think God is Going to Drag you off your perch, TO ONE SIDE of the DIVISION or the Other?

He WILL Cast you TO the SIDE AGAINST Him.

Because BY your own admission, you are worshiping a CREATED Human.

And By your own Actions you are Attempting to Teach others to follow you.

And BY you own actions you are Attempting to intimate others to follow your teaching, by your name calling.

YOU are in heresy . . .

Heresy! LOL. Who cares what you claim? I don't. I have Rejected your weird opposites are the SAME thing. Rejected your teaching. Rejected sitting on the fence with you.

Heresy! LOL being in Disagreement with you...yes, and in Complete Agreement with The Lord God Almighty WHO is Spirit... YES.

I am Confidant your name calling has ZERO Effect on a man who IS In STANDING With the Lord God Almighty...who IS Spirit...(not a human as you preach).

So do you usual as is your MO...name call some more...as IF you think that makes "YOUR Way", "YOUR False Truth", supersede
God Way, and Gods Truth, and my acceptance of HIS WAY, and HIS Truth, OVER, your confounded teaching that Opposite things are The SAME thing.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Bobby Jo]

It's worth remembering that the Vatican was not part of Rome when John had his vision. It doesn't sit on one of the seven hills and is on the other side of the Tiber from the ancient city of Rome.

Hi Mungo, -- presumably from "Blazing ..." --

You have half the solution, -- we know what ISN'T. But it seems to me the challenge is to know what IS. Unfortunately, people are more simple than the solution.


Find the solution.
Bobby Jo

 

[BreadOfLife]

MADE "LIKE"
CREATED and MADE are NOT the same thing!
Mankind was CREATED "AND" MADE (by God).
Gen 2:
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
CREAT----ED; is bringing INTO existance, that which DID NOT Exist.
MADE---; is
A Permeant Change to the CREAT-ed thing.
Or The APPEARANCE of a CREATED "Thing", LOOKING "LIKE", it has Been "Changed".
God IS Spirit.
He was NOT CREATED!
He CAN:
Change HIS APPEARENCE...
HIS APPEARENCE, HE CAN "MAKE" to LOOK "LIKE", Whatever, HE Desires.

God Chose TO "MAKE" HIS "APPEARENCE" "LOOK LIKE" a (Faithful), Human man.

It did NOT "MAKE" God a Human man...it MADE God, APPEAR "as" a human man.

God CAN NOT CHANGE!

Mal 3
[6] For I am the LORD, I change not;

You...have repeatedly said God Changed "is" a human man.

Scripture says; (and you have been shown)
God Is NOT Created.
Gods Word IS God.
God Prepared a Body for His Word.
God Sent His Word out of His Mouth TO Earth,
...in a Body God Prepared.
His Word/ took upon Himself, the Prepared ...Body.
The Body was in The LIKENESS / Appearance
...of Mankind.
That Body was Sent to a Jewish woman's
...Virgin Womb.
That Body was REVEALED to the World; in the
...SAME Fashion mankind is "Revealed" to the
...World, coming forth from a woman's Womb.
That Body, coming forth from a Jewish
....woman's Womb, BY man's LAW, Made that
....Body, A JEW!
That Virgin Jewish Woman; Marrying a Jewish
...man, of the House of David, Before the ....birth of that Body, BY man's Law, MADE, ....that Body, A Descendant, of the House of
...David.
...David was the Last sitting King of Israel.
...Davids Throne is an Ever Lasting Throne,
...Established BY God.
...king David, was a Well documented
...Descendant of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob.
The moment that Prepared Body was
... Revealed to the world...THAT Body took
... Upon itself the SEED of Abraham...
...(According to man's Law) a LEGAL
...Descendant of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
...King David, Down through Every Faithful
...Jew.
BY the Word of God, taking UPON Himself,
...the SEED of Abraham;
...The Word of God, IS LEGALLY (by Jewish
... LAW) rightfully Entitled to SIT on King
....Davids Everlasting Throne!
....AND
...ALL the LAND God promised TO Abraham,
...AND Abraham's Faithful HEIRS...
...Can be Claimed by Abraham'S Legal HEIRS!
DUH!
The Word of God, has Legal Authority,
...TO Claim Abraham's Land
...TO Claim KIND Davids Everlasting Throne

AND...Every Individual, WHO ALSO, Takes Upon Themselves, The SEED of Abraham, Becomes HEIRS to Abraham's Promised Land.

You should have studied Scripture, to Learn, HOW an Individual "Takes Upon himself the SEED of Abraham!" , And that Without Abraham's SEED, a man IS NOT an heir to Abraham's Land...which is; Where The Word of God, SHALL sit as KING of His Earthly Kingdom, With ALL entitled BY LAW to occupy That same Kingdom.

God Does NOT Change.
God DID NOT change, and become the CREATED.
God Has APPEARED to CREATED mankind...
In Likeness', MEN CAN SEE...
(BECAUSE...as God SAID...HUMAN MEN ARE STIFFNECKED...un-WILLING TO Believe, BY HEARING...human men WANT TO SEE, "BEFORE"...They BELIEVE)

So God Satisified the Stiffnecked mankind...
Sent His Word "in the Likeness" as A man, For men TO SEE God in a Form...that mankind COULD Look upon, (without being instantly Consumed by His Brightness)...

And WHAT do ignorant men thereafter Call God...? A CREATED Human man!

God is NOT a CREATED Human Man.
God is Without a Beginning or Ending...and He "Can and Has" Appreared to His CREATED mankind MANY Times, in a "Likeness and Fashion", HE TAKES UPON Himself, For stiffed necked, human men TO SEE.

CREATED Angel's have the power to Appear in MANY likeness'...it doesn't change them from Being CREATED Angel's.

CREATED mankind has the power to Appear in Many likeness'...it doesn't change them from being A CREATED Human.

If You Believe The Word of God is called Jesus, and that He was Created, and you Worship Him...by default you are Worshiping the Created.

Rom 1:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Under the Law, means Subject TO the Law.
Subject To The Law means, (disregard of the Law, ) is followed By a consequence.
Of course God Is Under the Law, His OWN Law, that HE CAN NOT Himself Violate!
God CAN NOT STAND AGAINST Himself!
He can NOT Lie!
He CAN NOT divorce His Church.
Etc.

Of course The Word of God, was MADE born of a women (according to man's Law,)...
However you seem uninformed, that the Word of God was First Born of God, the First Time Gods Word came Forth out of Gods Mouth.

Gen 1:
[3] And God said,

It was in a Later Time...God said, His Word would Be Revealed IN the "Likeness" as a man KIND of thing....YET...He DID NOT Change and Become a CREATED Mankind of Thing...(like you claim he IS a Human).

Correct...
God CAN have a TEMPTER approach Him with TEMPTING ideas...
(Anyone can be approached by A TEMPTER.
You are a TEMPTER...with you Ideas, that The Word of God is a CREATED Human (even teaching the ridiculous notion Jesus had Mary's DNA from her SEED)...
But what you fail to Comprehend...what you DO, as the TEMPTER, has Zero Effect on the one YOU are TEMPTING...when they REJECT your TEMPTATIONS. (Even when you Attempt intimidations, your TEMPTING is Rejected).

Utter Hogwash!
Any Tempter can Propose Their own Temptations...TO God.
What God CANNOT Do, IS FALL for, Consider, Do, THEIR Temptation!

Of course An Other, A TEMPTER, Can Tempt God, Can Tempt The Word of God...Scripture explicitly says so!

Numb 14
[22] Because all those men which have seen my glory, and my miracles, which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have tempted me now these ten times, and have not hearkened to my voice;

Matt 4:
[1] Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

He was Approached by A TEMPTER...an evil spirit.
God was Approached by Tempters...wicked men.

WHO the TEMPTER IS, IS irrelevant...
Both God and His Word...were Approached BY Tempters...
The LESSON you were "Supposed" to Learn...
IS TO Individuals...To NOT FALL for A Tempters Temptations!

And your Human EYES, and Human MIND...has Created an imagined Human....as you explicitly have said The Word of God "is" a CREATED Human man.

Continued...

Thanks for another LONG, psychotic rant . . .

Now - as to your blunder with Genesis 2:3 - the literal translation of this verse is NOT rendered as "created and made."
It's "made IN creation" ('asah bara'). In other words - it's talking about ALL that God created.

"Created" and "Made" are synonyms, Einstein:
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/create
create [kree-eyt]
SYNONYMS FOR create
Conceive
Construct
Design
Make
Establish
Form

As for the rest - a Spirit doesn't . . .
- Grow
- Get hungry
- Get thirsty
- Get tired
- Cry
- Die

Jesus did ALL of these things.
You LOSE because you depend on your OWN reasoning instead of relying on the Holy Spirit . . .

 

[Mungo]

Hi Mungo, -- presumably from "Blazing ..." --

You have half the solution, -- we know what ISN'T. But it seems to me the challenge is to know what IS. Unfortunately, people are more simple than the solution.

Find the solution.
Bobby Jo[/QUOTE]

There are two candidates usually touted around - pagan Rome and Jerusalem.

Personally I go for pagan Rome.
Do you have a theory?

 

[Bobby Jo]

...Do you have a theory?

No, sorry. All I have are FACTS.

Did you want the FACTS, or are you content with mis-information/dis-information?
Bobby Jo

 

[Taken]

Thanks for another LONG, psychotic rant . . .

LOL- everything you do not comprehend you call a rant....

Now - as to your blunder with Genesis 2:3 - the literal translation of this verse is NOT rendered as "created and made."
It's "made IN creation" ('asah bara'). In other words - it's talking about ALL that God created.

Nope.
God CREATED man and then MAKES man alive!

Gen 2
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Every man - God Creates is Created from Dust of the Earth.

Every man that IS MADE Alive is MADE by Christ the Lord.

John 1:
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

"Created" and "Made" are synonyms, Einstein:
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/create
create [kree-eyt]
SYNONYMS FOR create
Conceive
Construct
Design
Make
Establish
Form

And? God clearly Teaches: He Creates and Then MAKES what He Creates, ALIVE and then DEAD....and MAKES Alive Again.

Nothing is "Made" without Something First in Existence.

Try "Making" a house, a cake, a mud pie...without something being first Created!

And BTW...you like synonyms? LOL

All your DENIALS of Worshiping Mary, claiming it's a Devotional thing...ha!
Worship is synonymous with Devotion!

As for the rest - a Spirit doesn't . . .
- Grow
- Get hungry
- Get thirsty
- Get tired
- Cry
- Die

Jesus did ALL of these things.

LOL- The Body God Prepared For His Word, in the Likeness as a man, that Jesus Took upon Himself DID All those Things!

Obviously you are still without Understanding... ONLY Jesus' Prepared FLESH Body was Given for a sacrifice unto Death!
NOT HIS SOUL...NOT HIS SPIRIT!!!

Did you FORGET already...Jesus took that Prepared BODY upon Himself...

Did you NOT Know ... under that Prepared Body...is Gods Form?
Did you Not know the Form IS the Body?

Phil 2:
[6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

John 6:
[51] ...the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Heb 10:
[10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

You LOSE because you depend on your OWN reasoning instead of relying on the Holy Spirit . . .

LOL- Catholic teaching taught you The Word of God, IS a Human man.

Scripture DOES NOT teach the Word of God, is a Human Man!

The Holy Spirit DOES NOT give Understanding that the Word of God, is a Human man.

You have been Duped, and are too Blind to See.

You are being Prepped to Accept a Demonic spirit, in the BODY of a human man, as a False god.

I'll stick with the Lords Truth...you can go Worship your humans as you were taught, and believe you have won something in your own game-playing.

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL- everything you do not comprehend you call a rant....
Nope.
God CREATED man and then MAKES man alive!

Gen 2
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Every man - God Creates is Created from Dust of the Earth.
Every man that IS MADE Alive is MADE by Christ the Lord.

WRONG.
Gen. 2:3 is simply taking about God resting after having created ('asah) everything,

John 1:
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
[10] He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
And? God clearly Teaches: He Creates and Then MAKES what He Creates, ALIVE and then DEAD....and MAKES Alive Again.
Nothing is "Made" without Something First in Existence.
Try "Making" a house, a cake, a mud pie...without something being first Created!
And BTW...you like synonyms? LOL

The Son ALWAYS existed with the Father (John 1:1) and everything was created through Him.
Jesus the MAN was created in Mary's womb and she gave birth to Him (Luke 2:7).
He is 100% human and 100% God.

All your DENIALS of Worshiping Mary, claiming it's a Devotional thing...ha!
Worship is synonymous with Devotion!

Sooooo, devotion to your wife and children is "worship"??

Another asinine conclusion brought on by another psychotic rant . . .

LOL- The Body God Prepared For His Word, in the Likeness as a man, that Jesus Took upon Himself DID All those Things!

Obviously you are still without Understanding... ONLY Jesus' Prepared FLESH Body was Given for a sacrifice unto Death!
NOT HIS SOUL...NOT HIS SPIRIT!!!

Did you FORGET already...Jesus took that Prepared BODY upon Himself...

Did you NOT Know ... under that Prepared Body...is Gods Form?
Did you Not know the Form IS the Body?

Phil 2:
[6] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
John 6:
[51] ...the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
Heb 10:
[10] By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

LOL- Catholic teaching taught you The Word of God, IS a Human man.
Scripture DOES NOT teach the Word of God, is a Human Man!
The Holy Spirit DOES NOT give Understanding that the Word of God, is a Human man.
You have been Duped, and are too Blind to See.
You are being Prepped to Accept a Demonic spirit, in the BODY of a human man, as a False god.
I'll stick with the Lords Truth...you can go Worship your humans as you were taught, and believe you have won something in your own game-playing.

A body doesn't cry on its own.
It doesn't get tired on its own.
It doesn't get thirsty on its own.
It doesn't get hungry on its own.

Jesus DID all these things in His humanity - and he "grew in wisdom and stature" (Luke 2:53).
How does a pure spirit of God "Grow" in wisdom and stature??

YOUR turn, Einstein . . .

 

[Taken]

WRONG.
Gen. 2:3 is simply taking about God resting after having created ('asah) everything,

Gen 5:
[1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

The Son ALWAYS existed with the Father..
Jesus the MAN was created in Mary's womb

LOL..

"always existed...was Created"...

LOL LOL LOL!!!

he "grew in wisdom and stature" (Luke 2:53).

LOL- how shocking BODY'S grow in stature!
LOL- how shocking BODY'S grow in Wisdom!

Guess you didn't know, The Word of God Came to Earth as a BODY in the Likeness as a man...His Wisdom was Revealed as He was Revealing Himself as Christ!

1 Cor 1:
[24]..Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

How does a pure spirit of God "Grow" in wisdom and stature??

WHO said "pure spirit"? I didn't!



Obviously you are unaware...
God is A Spirit.
God has A Shape/ Form/ Body.
God has A Soul.

Those are Three different Things!
He offered The BODY God Prepared!
DUH, He did NOT Offer or sacrifice His Soul or Spirit!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Gen 5:[1] This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
LOL..
LOL LOL LOL!!!
LOL- how shocking BODY'S grow in stature!
LOL- how shocking BODY'S grow in Wisdom!

Guess you didn't know, The Word of God Came to Earth as a BODY in the Likeness as a man...His Wisdom was Revealed as He was Revealing Himself as Christ!

1 Cor 1:
[24]..Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

WHO said "pure spirit"? I didn't!

Obviously you are unaware...
God is A Spirit.
God has A Shape/ Form/ Body.
God has A Soul.

Those are Three different Things!
He offered The BODY God Prepared!
DUH, He did NOT Offer or sacrifice His Soul or Spirit!

WRONG again.

Bodies don't "grow in wisdom". HUMANS do.
God doesn't "grow in wisdom". A HUMAN does

As for God having a "Shape/Form/Body" as you put it - He ONLY does in the Man Jesus Christ (John 1:14).
God is Spirit (John 4:24). He BECAME a human when He was born of a woman and under the Law (Gal 4:4).

Stop denying Christ - or He will deny YOU before the father (Matt. 10:33) . . .

 

[Heart2Soul]

I wonder how long @Taken and @BreadOfLife can carry on this debate and still walk away in a stalemate....

 

[BreadOfLife]

I wonder how long @Taken and @BreadOfLife can carry on this debate and still walk away in a stalemate....

Just tryin' to show him the error of his ways . . .

He ALWAYS takes a topic and changes the subject.
Anti-Catholic threads are his favorite.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Just tryin' to show him the error of his ways . . .

He ALWAYS takes a topic and changes the subject.
Anti-Catholic threads are his favorite.

I know I was just having fun....lol.

 

[Marymog]

Most people is an unprovable claim as you have no way of knowing if most people believe what you say they do. All you can say is some people. And it is true that some people are skeptical about anything to do with the supernatural probably for the simple reason it means they cannot control it to their satisfaction.

All the rules and regulations visited on people by churches are there for one reason only and that is to control the people.

“Some people” is an unprovable claim also

 

[Marymog]

Why is it ... that if a person hears of questionable reports and practices within an organization, and discusses it, Disagrees with it... BY your perspective, it means "they" are a "Hater"?

Questionable reports and practices within an organization do not = facts. There is zero evidence of satanic practices in the Vatican.

 

[Marymog]

The article says nothing about satanic rituals taking place in the Vatican.....Unless you ( @Taken )can quote from the article for me...I must have missed it.

DEAD SILENCE from taken....

 

[Taken]

Questionable reports and practices within an organization do not = facts. There is zero evidence of satanic practices in the Vatican.

That you know of...

 

[Taken]

The article says nothing about satanic rituals taking place in the Vatican.....Unless you ( @Taken )can quote from the article for me...I must have missed it.

DEAD SILENCE from taken....

LOL! You are not my priority.

 

[Taken]

I wonder how long @Taken and @BreadOfLife can carry on this debate and still walk away in a stalemate....

I like comedy...BOL keeps me laughing.

 

[Taken]

Just tryin' to show him the error of his ways . . .

He ALWAYS takes a topic and changes the subject.
Anti-Catholic threads are his favorite.

LOL

 

[Heart2Soul]

LOL

I think you guys need a scorekeeper...okay....so far it's a tie. 2 T, 2 BoL