What Day Is The Sabbath ???

[RainAndIceCream]

Hi

Which day of the week is the correct sabbath to worship GOD? There has been much debate surrounding Saturday to be the original sabbath day of worship, but this was mysteriously changed to a Sunday by the papacy of Rome.

Isaiah 58:13.
Keep the Sabbath day holy. Don’t pursue your own interests on that day, but enjoy the Sabbath and speak of it with delight as the LORD’s holy day. Honor the Sabbath in everything you do on that day, and don’t follow your own desires or talk idly. Then the LORD will be your delight. I will give you great honor and satisfy you with the inheritance I promised to your ancestor Jacob. I, the LORD, have spoken.

I recall Emmanuel teaching the Sabbath was made for us, we were not created for the Sabbath. Our day of rest is in Jesus and that is every day. However, I think if we choose to attend to a day of worship, typically Sunday for most, then one could easily choose a day of rest God made for them to have that day the Lord made as one wherein we are to put aside the attentions the world bids of us, and simply live the time to be in bible study, worship, meditation, prayer.

As I recall Sabbath is from sundown on Friday to sundown Saturday.
I know Seventh Day Adventists recognize that time as their Sabbath. I believe this is also what is traditionally Sabbath time marked in the scriptures as well. Though I could be mistaken. Lord knows stranger things have happened. "What? She's wrong? Wooooooahhhhh!"

 

[Brakelite]

The bible! Do you really think Catholics and Orthodox are afraid of the bible? We're not.

Okay, great. Can you show me please where Christians ram as fast as they could away from the Sabbath? Be much appreciated.

It wouldn't do any good on you, you've already sold the farm for your Sadventism.

Not afraid of the Bible? Yet refuse to search it for verification for your opinion. Who needs God's word when you've got Mother to give you all your answers right? If you were as familiar with the Bible as you pretend, and as familiar with your own church's teachings as you should be, you would know that even your own church admits there is no biblical foundation for Sunday sacredness. They made it up. Inherited it from pagan Rome. The early church knew nothing of your Sunday... They continued to observe Sabbath just as Jesus said they would be.
KJV Matthew 24
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
KJV Acts 13
Preaching to the Gentiles
42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

 

[FHII]

Read anyone's posts, no one's has nearly so many <I>'s as yours. That already tells about their usefulness. <I>'s that cannot see because they are locked, jammed, in reverse.

Of course. I am speaking for myself. Never heard someone complain about too my "I"s.

Your claims about Scripture for example -- WHO CARES?! -- always better than the one next to you. But present those Scriptures to speak of itself for itself

Well, you should care, for one. Do you really need me to list them?

Romans 6:14-15, 1 Corinthians 6:12, Galatians 5:18. That's the short list that directly say we are not under the law. Many more say the same thing in slightly different wording. Romans 5:20 and Ephesians 2:8-9, for example.

<<Christ was under the law, obeyed the Law (except when he didn't)>> Scripture? Trash bin retrieved!

Oh, be careful! I do have scripture. I know that you don't care if I do, but it's there and MOST Christians know what I am referring to, even if they don't agree he broke the Law.

<<a Paul quote that says Christ was born under the law>> Many but you struggled not to think hard enough to deserve more and better than this, one, Revelation 12:4,5.

Revelation 12:4-5 KJV
And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be h delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. [5] And she brought forth a man i child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

1.No where does it say he was born under the law
2. It's not a quote from Paul
3. It's really interesting how you only used a part of my quote....

Alright, here's a tip for another verse, "the government shall be upon his shoulder".

I know the verse well... It's from Isaiah. It doesn't say he was born under the Law and it certainly doesn't say because he was, we should remain under the law. Furthermore, it's not a quote from Paul either.

In case anyone is wondering why I'm asking for a quote from Paul... It's because Gerhard said Paul said it:

True. More - far more, far greater, Paul says, CHRIST WAS BORN UNDER THE LAW

Wasn't that nice of me to do after you so falsely accused me of having said <<Christ was born under the law and so we are too>>?

True. More - far more, far greater, Paul says, CHRIST WAS BORN UNDER THE LAW

If you are in Christ you are "under the Law for as long as you shall live" IN CHRIST.

It certainly sounds like that is what you are saying! So if you are, please ex

You should be ashamed, what brag that you <<believe In keeping the Law. All of it!>>

Bragging? Not so! Anyone under Grace can state this fact! Our FAITH is accounted for righteousness, without works! Romans 4.

 

[Taken]

[QUOTE="GerhardEbersoehn, post: 756945, member: 6111"

O I get so tired of and bored with the sheer pretence and bigotry I have to deal with every day of my life![/QUOTE]

Sounds as though you have a personal problem to work out.

Jesus can help you overcome.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Bow to your Sabbath god, the bible won't save you. The Canon was put together by Catholic and Orthodox theologians in such a way that if anyone was ever stupid enough to rebel against them they would fall into a snare and be taken in their sin. You can't beat the Mother Church.....slave.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Well, you should care, for one. Do you really need me to list them?

List them at random, irrelevant, corrupted, twisted, out of context .... and I should care!?

 

[mjrhealth]

They stick to the Law because the have not the Spirit of God, this bit

Luk 5:36 And he spake also a parable unto them; No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old; if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old.
Luk 5:37 And no man putteth new wine into old bottles; else the new wine will burst the bottles, and be spilled, and the bottles shall perish.
Luk 5:38 But new wine must be put into new bottles; and both are preserved.
Luk 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.

For they are still stuck in the past trying to fit the new into the old, the new wine the Spirit into the Law and as you can see its all broken,

Mat 9:16 No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.
Mat 9:17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

But they dont care they have to prove them selves as if God needs them to.

Act_15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Romans 6:14-15, 1 Corinthians 6:12, Galatians 5:18. That's the short list that directly say we are not under the law. Many more say the same thing in slightly different wording. Romans 5:20 and Ephesians 2:8-9, for example.

Romans 6: 14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Under grace ye are not under the law, yes! When sin does not have dominion over you, it is because you are by God's grace, not under the Law, and visa versa, when you are not under the Law it is by God's grace that you are under grace and not under the Law. Because, if, you are under grace, sin has no dominion over you; because, if, you are under grace you are not under the Law. It is all because you are under grace because under grace you are IN CHRIST - in Christ who IS the Law to them who are in Him.

By the grace of God I may say thanking Him alone for his grace, that I have never believed anything opposite or contrary or different. Being and having been in Christ by the grace of God all my life I have always been a forgiven sinner under the Law all my life!

Romans 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

"..The Law..In Christ.." is "The Law-of-Life": "In Christ" = "Under the Law-of-Life" = "free from the law of sin and free from death".

But oppose one another is compulsory. It is our sinful nature still, PROVING as long as we will sin and die we are under the Law still, FH11.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Bow to your Sabbath god, the bible won't save you. The Canon was put together by Catholic and Orthodox theologians in such a way that if anyone was ever stupid enough to rebel against them they would fall into a snare and be taken in their sin. You can't beat the Mother Church.....slave.

Your zeal for the Roman Catholic harlot is a zeal which keeps a man entirely devoted to himself, and does not, even by one expression, arouse him to sanctify the Name of God. (Acknowledge to John Calvin answering cardinal Sadolet)

 

[FHII]

Romans 6: 14For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

Under grace ye are not under the law, yes! When sin does not have dominion over you, it is because you are by God's grace, not under the Law, and visa versa, when you are not under the Law it is by God's grace that you are under grace and not under the Law. Because, if, you are under grace, sin has no dominion over you; because, if, you are under grace you are not under the Law. It is all because you are under grace because under grace you are IN CHRIST - in Christ who IS the Law to them who are in Him.

By the grace of God I may say thanking Him alone for his grace, that I have never believed anything opposite or contrary or different. Being and having been in Christ by the grace of God all my life I have always been a forgiven sinner under the Law all my life!

Romans 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2For the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

"..The Law..In Christ.." is "The Law-of-Life": "In Christ" = "Under the Law-of-Life" = "free from the law of sin and free from death".

But oppose one another is compulsory. It is our sinful nature still, PROVING as long as we will sin and die we are under the Law still, FH11.

Yogi Berra couldn't have said it better himself.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

They stick to the Law because the have not the Spirit of God, this bit

The troll god judge, this bit as always.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Yogi Berra couldn't have said it better himself.

Who is Yogi Berra , never heard of

<< Berra had countless expressions and turns of phrase that were memorable because most of them didn’t make any sense. >>

I should have thought something like this. I first thought it's you. Thoughtless thought.



.

 

[mjrhealth]

The troll god judge, this bit as always.

If you dont liek teh truth than you can leave.

 

[Malihah]

The Little Horn Big Trap Blasphemer at his best

LOL. Your bastardized understanding of prophecy won't save you from Unbelief.

 

[Malihah]

Your zeal for the Roman Catholic harlot is a zeal which keeps a man entirely devoted to himself, and does not, even by one expression, arouse him to sanctify the Name of God. (Acknowledge to John Calvin answering cardinal Sadolet)

Your zeal for the great harlot Jerusalem and her old covenant idols will put you at the top of her sins that have reached unto heaven. The Mother Church will crush the idols of Babylon.

 

[Malihah]

Not afraid of the Bible? Yet refuse to search it for verification for your opinion. Who needs God's word when you've got Mother to give you all your answers right? If you were as familiar with the Bible as you pretend, and as familiar with your own church's teachings as you should be, you would know that even your own church admits there is no biblical foundation for Sunday sacredness. They made it up. Inherited it from pagan Rome. The early church knew nothing of your Sunday... They continued to observe Sabbath just as Jesus said they would be.
KJV Matthew 24
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
KJV Acts 13
Preaching to the Gentiles
42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

Those like you who reject 2000 years of Church history and Tradition can never see the unfolding of truth down through the ages. The Sabbath debate was waged by better theologians than you and put to rest almost from the beginning. Go bow to your EGW false god.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Onsmaaklike vent. This is what a satanic church does to one.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I recall Emmanuel teaching the Sabbath was made for us, we were not created for the Sabbath. Our day of rest is in Jesus and that is every day.

Have every day your day and leave Christ Emmanuel's Day-of-Resurrection-Rest. Do not pollute it with your rest in own works of righteousness. God is Holy and so is His Holy Day to Him.

I shall never give in to the mockers of the goodness of God who scoff only because they have not seen God return favours yet.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

I shall never give in to the mockers of the goodness of God who scoff only because they have not seen God return favours yet.

 

[RainAndIceCream]

Have every day your day and leave Christ Emmanuel's Day-of-Resurrection-Rest. Do not pollute it with your rest in own works of righteousness. God is Holy and so is His Holy Day to Him.

I shall never give in to the mockers of the goodness of God who scoff only because they have not seen God return favours yet.

I will pray for whatever angers you to make such a reply after quoting my personal observations on this topic. For they certainly do not have a thing to do with my perspective.
God be with you.