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GISMYS_7

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No, none of the other stuff should be conflated with this present issue. I love my brothers and sisters in the Lord, and my highest desire is to edify them. I know it doesn't seem that way when we strongly disagree. I don't disfellowship fellow believers over peripheral disagreements.

This particular issue, however, borders on matters that are intolerable to me. Those who adhere to Faith Doctrine refuse to even address the issue, which is not respectable. All things should be defensible with respect to the Bible. This isn't just a theological discussion--it is a spiritual matter.

I wouldn't even be so concerned with the difference in emphasis--just that when someone doubles down on a belief they refuse to justify that belief as biblical. And when there is a counter-argument there is no willingness to engage the issues.

Have you addressed any of my questions yet? If you do, then maybe I can answer your questions too?

''" Faith Doctrine"" SATAN HATES IT because h knows that without faith man cannot please God!!! And you??
 
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No, none of the other stuff should be conflated with this present issue. I love my brothers and sisters in the Lord, and my highest desire is to edify them. I know it doesn't seem that way when we strongly disagree. I don't disfellowship fellow believers over peripheral disagreements.

This particular issue, however, borders on matters that are intolerable to me. Those who adhere to Faith Doctrine refuse to even address the issue, which is not respectable. All things should be defensible with respect to the Bible. This isn't just a theological discussion--it is a spiritual matter.

I wouldn't even be so concerned with the difference in emphasis--just that when someone doubles down on a belief they refuse to justify that belief as biblical. And when there is a counter-argument there is no willingness to engage the issues.

Have you addressed any of my questions yet? If you do, then maybe I can answer your questions too?

You didn't answer my question.
 

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''" Faith Doctrine"" SATAN HATES IT because h knows that without faith man cannot please God!!! And you??

There is more true faith in the little finger of the prosperity movement doctrine, in spite of its flaws, than there is in the whole of most denominations.
 
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Why nor receive "ALL" God wants you to have?
Jesse shares revelation from God’s Word that will enlarge your faith and unleash God’s favor and grace to receive all God has for you.
Jesse Duplantis Ministries All Part 1 May 2020 - YouTube


Duplantis gets your money, he flies on private jets to preaching engagement.

there are those the Lord has to serve well as wealthy. but they don't flaunt it to the believers, nor are they trying to get it by preaching. gospel is not for getting rich in the things of the world.

they show his stuff on tv, look straight at what he's says, it comes around to getting money from the listener, and you'll see what I'm saying is true.

they feed feel good justifications to those who want satisfactions in this life, of this life.

therefore John's Lord says: Mat_6:33  But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

and what is included here is, God the Father in Heaven is the Judge of what is good for His.
 

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Duplantis gets your money, he flies on private jets to preaching engagement.

there are those the Lord has to serve well as wealthy. but they don't flaunt it to the believers, nor are they trying to get it by preaching. gospel is not for getting rich in the things of the world.

they show his stuff on tv, look straight at what he's says, it comes around to getting money from the listener, and you'll see what I'm saying is true.

they feed feel good justifications to those who want satisfactions in this life, of this life.

therefore John's Lord says: Mat_6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

and what is included here is, God the Father in Heaven is the Judge of what is good for His.


YES!!! Trust God the Father in Heaven to Judge what is good for His. Beware of slander, mocking, scoffing attacks on God's servants!!!
 
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You didn't answer my question.

Did you read my answer? I said:

...when there is a counter-argument there is no willingness to engage the issues.

Have you addressed any of my questions yet? If you do, then maybe I can answer your questions too?
 

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''" Faith Doctrine"" SATAN HATES IT because h knows that without faith man cannot please God!!! And you??

My response is the same as always. If you are unwilling or unable to defend your positions against reasonable biblical concerns, then it's not worth engaging you at all. But I will provide a rebuttal for those who otherwise may be unduly influenced by your proclamations and by your assertions.
 

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Adam's sin brought sickness and death to a perfect world so blame sin and satan NOT God.
Well, under your theology, all they have to do is claim God's promises and all their medical issues will just disappear, seems simple enough. They'll have a brick house perfect health a BMW, and live in a gated community, did I get it right?
 

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Well, under your theology, all they have to do is claim God's promises and all their medical issues will just disappear, seems simple enough. They'll have a brick house perfect health a BMW, and live in a gated community, did I get it right?

Jesus healed all that with faith that called on Him. Do you think God does not heal people today??
 

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YES!!! Trust God the Father in Heaven to Judge what is good for His. Beware of slander, mocking, scoffing attacks on God's servants!!!
how do you know duplantus is the Lord God of Israel's servant, or is your god money?
 

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Jesus healed all that with faith that called on Him. Do you think God does not heal people today??
I believe He still heals. So how do you reconcile all those in the body of Christ that don't have perfect health a BMW, and a brick house in a gated community?
 

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God's will for believers
3 John 1:2
Beloved, I pray that all may go well with you and that you may be in good health, as it goes well with your soul.

Jeremiah 33:6
Behold, I will bring to it health and healing, and I will heal them and reveal to them abundance of prosperity and security.

Deuteronomy 7:15
And the Lord will take away from you all sickness, and none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which you knew, will he inflict on you, but he will lay them on all who hate you.

Mark 9:23
And Jesus said to him, “‘If you can’! All things are possible for one who believes.”
 
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The Rich and the Kingdom of God
Mark 10:17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’”

20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”

21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.

22 At this the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.

23 Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!”

24 The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

26 The disciples were even more amazed, and said to each other, “Who then can be saved?”

27 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”

28 Then Peter spoke up, “We have left everything to follow you!”
Footnotes
  1. Mark 10:19 Exodus 20:12-16; Deut. 5:16-20
  2. Mark 10:24 Some manuscripts is for those who trust in riches

1Timothy6:5 wranglings of men wholly corrupted in mind, and destitute of the truth, supposing the piety to be gain; depart from such;
6 but it is great gain -- the piety with contentment;7 for nothing did we bring into the world -- [it is] manifest that we are able to carry nothing out;8 but having food and raiment -- with these we shall suffice ourselves;
9 and those wishing to be rich, do fall into temptation and a snare, and many desires, foolish and hurtful, that sink men into ruin and destruction,

10 for a root of all the evils is the love of money, which certain longing for did go astray from the faith, and themselves did pierce through with many sorrows;


Luke8:1 After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom of God. The Twelve were with him, 2 and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out; 3 Joanna the wife of Chuza, the manager of Herod’s household; Susanna; and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.

Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head (Luke 9:58).

“The very first thing on Jesus` agenda was to get rid of poverty! Would you like to know why some people, including ministries, never get out of poverty? Its not because they aren’t smart. Its not because they don’t have windows of opportunity. Its because they’re not anointed. If you’re not anointed, poverty will follow you all the days of your life. His first objective was to get rid of poverty.”
(Jesse Duplantis, Nov. 1997 Voice of the Covenant magazine, page 5)

Jesse Duplantis claims that God said the following to him:
“If you used any more faith you would blow Me off My Throne” (Jesse Duplantis).