USA riots

[bukka]

I'd give this more likes if I could.

These are racists, those who would try to make everyone believe the problem is "systemic racism". Utter nonsense intended to deceive, and @bukka is here on their behalf.

No. We should not coddle criminals, no matter how much they claim they have the 'right' to, like you've illustrated, just do whatever lawlessness they want.

And this cry to get rid of the police! LOL!

I think that many people looking at this thread, marks, know who the racists are. BLM stands for the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule. I would appreciate your support for the same. I don't think we should support police murder and coddle those criminals.

 

[marks]

I don't want a narrative, Renniks. I want your support for the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule. Once we have that, we can go onto other questions. Claiming BLM as simply terrorist or criminals defames those citizens exercising their right to assemble to seek redress of grievances.

Um . . . it's mark. And actually, you've been spinning your narrative the entire time.

As I've said Oh So Many Times . . . Yes, BLM has the right to protest just like everyone else.

There. Now you can rest. Of course that doesn't do what you want.

You want me to affirm a violent and racist organization dedicated to ruining this nation. Not all the members, of course. Many are being lied to. But the money trail tells what we need to know.

Why do you support such a hateful and murderous racist group?

Is that what Jesus wants us to do?

 

[bukka]

This posting still stands:

Since I've been flooded with postings meant to annoy me and to make answering difficult, I will wait to see if marks and Rennik can answer the following:

I have taken the positions of these two posters to their simple logical conclusion. This is done to show the falsity of their positions. At bottom, both of these posters are still defaming lawful citizens of the BLM, equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies to violate laws. This position of these posters has not changed. I cannot accept the defamation of lawful protesters exercising their constitutional right of assembly to seek redress of grievances, particularly that of police murder and voter suppression.

So I asked these posters, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you sure about this? Do you want your guns taken away from you by people complaining that you are criminals or sympathetic to criminals? This is another application of the logic these posters are using. I have continued to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that. It's getting more and more like it is. I don't know why you hate the Bill of Rights except that it may be cherished by people you don't like.

I have always asserted that BLM was not a specifically Christian organization. I do not believe that civil rights be based upon religious belief; and, in state religions of any type. I don't think that churches should be dependent upon governmental tax dollars with the ministers being appointed or confirmed to their office by the government. I think that is something that is set up for anti-christ.

I THINK THE POSTERS ARE NOT ANSWERING ME BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ANSWER ME. THE LOGIC IS IRREFUTABLE AND SO THEY SEEK TO HARASS AND ANNOY ME AND AVOID ANY TYPE OF LOGICAL ARGUMENTATION.

Again I ask, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.

 

[marks]

I think that many people looking at this thread, marks, know who the racists are. BLM stands for the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule. I would appreciate your support for the same. I don't think we should support police murder and coddle those criminals.

BLM is funded by globalists who are using them to further those goal. BLM itself is a hateful and racist and murderous organization. All you need do is to look at what they say about themselves. And turn on the TV and what for yourselves what they do.

People how read this thread will have a wonderful example of gaslighting.

The reason why I do not support BLM is because I support the contitution and the rule of law.

 

[bukka]

For those who disagree with me: if you simply label the BLM as criminal, you're denying the right of assembly to the lawful citizens who gather to protest injustices. Why not accept the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule?

 

[marks]

I have continued to ask, why you can't be morally consistent?

You want me to affirm a violent and racist organization dedicated to ruining this nation. Not all the members, of course. Many are being lied to. But the money trail tells what we need to know.

Why do you support such a hateful and murderous racist group? Is that moral consistency?

Is that what Jesus wants us to do?

 

[Renniks]

The Bill of Rights and Golden Rule does not confer special rights, only that the same rights be accorded to all. BLM is only asserting those same rights. As I had asked Grailhunter: Why not say it now and support the lawful BLM citizens their right of assembly? Why not support the Golden Rule in this? If something has wronged you, wouldn't you want to lawfully exercise your right of assembly to protest it? Wouldn't you want to be treated in a way that accepts that one should treat others as they wish to be treated? I think the answers are simple in this.

Lol, you are just a skipping record. No one is dissing peaceful protesters! Whether I agree with you or not you can peacefully protest to your hearts content! If your local supermarket doesn't carry nutty bars and you like nutty bars ...protest! Nobody cares!

 

[marks]

For those who disagree with me: if you simply label the BLM as criminal, you're denying the right of assembly to the lawful citizens who gather to protest injustices. Why not accept the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule?

Hm.

SO. If I say that the drug dealer down the street is a criminal, I'm denying people the right to assemble?

Would you mind expaining that?

BLM is a hateful racist group that has the same right of assembly as the KKK. What's your problem with that? I don't support the KKK either, but they too have the right to assemble. But that doesn't change who and what they are. Same with BLM.

 

[Renniks]

For those who disagree with me: if you simply label the BLM as criminal, you're denying the right of assembly to the lawful citizens who gather to protest injustices. Why not accept the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule?

See, this is radically illogical.
We don't like BLM because of what they do ( kill babies for one) but...
No one is saying they don't have the right to assemble! Even the KKK has the right to assemble.

 

[Renniks]

Hm.

SO. If I say that the drug dealer down the street is a criminal, I'm denying people the right to assemble?

Would you mind expaining that?

BLM is a hateful racist group that has the same right of assembly as the KKK. What's your problem with that? I don't support the KKK either, but they too have the right to assemble. But that doesn't change who and what they are. Same with BLM.

Lol, great minds think alike.

 

[marks]

Lol, you are just a skipping record. No one is dissing peaceful protesters! Whether I agree with you or not you can peacefully protest to your hearts content! If your local supermarket doesn't carry nutty bars and you like nutty bars ...protest! Nobody cares!

He's using an eternal straw man. No matter how many times you knock it down, it just pops back up again!

What he really wants, I think, is for us all to support BLM. I don't think this is about securing rights to protest. They already have that. I haven't seen anyway deny that. No one!

But that's not enough. It's never enough! Nothing is! Once they get the whiff of appeasement, it's like blood in the water.

 

[marks]

See, this is radically illogical.
We don't like BLM because of what they do ( kill babies for one) but...
No one is saying they don't have the right to assemble! Even the KKK has the right to assemble.

see . . . you're typing as I'm typing, and we come to the same thing. It's so EASY to see past this guys reasoning.

 

[bukka]

Over and over and over and over . . .

Of course they have the right of assembly like everyone else. SO you see their rights are not being deprived. But why do you single out this hateful and racist group who supports destruction and violence against people who have never done them any harm?

Kinda answers itself!

You want me to affirm a violent and racist organization dedicated to ruining this nation. Not all the members, of course. Many are being lied to. But the money trail tells what we need to know.

Why do you support such a hateful and murderous racist group? Is that moral consistency?

Is that what Jesus wants us to do?

Lol, you are just a skipping record. No one is dissing peaceful protesters! Whether I agree with you or not you can peacefully protest to your hearts content! If your local supermarket doesn't carry nutty bars and you like nutty bars ...protest! Nobody cares!

You two really have a strange view of the Constitution and the Bible. We're supposed to treat others as we wish to be treated. This simply means that if we want our civil rights, we have to respect the rights of others. This isn't hard.

Just dismissing BLM as criminal or a terrorist organization just doesn't wash with me. People have the right to assemble to protest police murder and voter suppression. It's all very simple. Why complicate the clarity of all this?

 

[bukka]

I think, marks and Renniks, we should support the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule. It's all very simple.

 

[marks]

You two really have a strange view of the Constitution and the Bible. We're supposed to treat others as we wish to be treated. This simply means that if we want our civil rights, we have to respect the rights of others. This isn't hard.

That's what I do, whether it fits your agenda or not. You think I don't respect other people's rights? What a laugh! But if you think I'm ever going to support people who use their rights to deprive others of theirs you are mistaken.

I don't care what the group calls themself, KKK, BLM, whatever. You promote hate, you promote racism, you promote murder, I'm not going to promote you.

I'm supporting the rights of those whom BLM would victimize. Plain and simple.

 

[marks]

I think, marks and Renniks, we should support the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule. It's all very simple.

On this we agree. So no more support for murderous hateful racists like BLM?

 

[marks]

Just dismissing BLM as criminal or a terrorist organization just doesn't wash with me. People have the right to assemble to protest police murder and voter suppression. It's all very simple. Why complicate the clarity of all this?

As always . . . But let's not overlook the fact they they are liars, claiming that black lives matter to them, while the truth is, only certain black lives matter to them. Only the ones they can exploit for their own agenda, which is not about saving black lives.

It that's what they truly wanted, we'd see it in their actions and declaration.

 

[marks]

People have the right to assemble to protest . . . voter suppression.

Um . . . blacks can vote. So we're good now?

I mean, shouldnt' this all be put to rest by now? We've all agreed that we all have the right to protest if we do it lawfully, right? And it's a matter or record that blacks, and yes, women too, can vote. So it's all been addressed?

Was there something else, some other thing bugging you?

 

[bukka]

You two are still floundering about, like my father would say. Why not accept the Bill of Rights and the Golden Rule and act like you do? It's not hard.

 

[bukka]

You two still need to affirm the right of assembly. You need to affirm it for the BLM.