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Okay, so that is Colossians 2...(not Colossians 1).
What was it you were saying that I was in denial of in the passage?
First of all, it is the work of God (not a god).
Secondly, if I failed to acknowledge it, it does not necessarily mean that I do not believe in it.
Eternally Grateful
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You don’t. Because you claimed it is water baptism not spirit baptism
Thats all I need to know
Spirit baptism is promised as a result of water baptism in Acts 2:38-39....water baptism is the condition for the promise of Spirit baptism. You really should capitalize words that refer to God.
No its is not,
Act 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Act 11:17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
Baptism in the Holy Spirit replaced water baptism. Something to do with shadows,
Eternally Grateful
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That’s 2 baptisms not one
sorry but you are just wrong,, god did not Contradict himself by saying we are not saved by works, then forget he demanded the work of water baptism for salvation
Titus 3: 5 not by works of righteousness (water baptism is a work of righteousness) whch we have done, but by his mercy he saved us by the washing (spirit baptism) and renewal (spiritual rebirth or being born again) of the HS, (again, the Hs does the work, just like in Col 2
Again, all I'm saying is that Acts 2:38 is a conditional promise of holy scripture. Luke 11:13 is also a similar promise. But if you don't think you got it through fulfilling the condition in Luke 11:13, I don't see the harm in seeking it through the condition in Acts 2:38, which offers it absolutely. Because Acts 2:39 shows forth specifically that Acts 2:38 is in fact a promise.
Consider 2 Peter 1:3-4, 2 Corinthians 1:20, Hebrews 11:33, and Romans 4:20-22. When there are conditional promises made in holy scripture, it is always good to exercise faith in them by fulfilling their condition in our own lives.
It's two-in-one...just like in the Trinity, where you have three-in-one.
1...capitalize words that refer to God, it is only the respect that is due unto Him.
2...water baptism is not a work.
The only condition we have, which is the one most christians seem to lack is,
"have faith in God"
That is our work
Acts of the Apostles 2:38 shows forth a conditional promise; as evidenced by what it says in Acts of the Apostles 2:39.
Should it be repeated
Mar 11:19 And when even was come, he went out of the city.
Mar 11:20 And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots.
Mar 11:21 And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away.
Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
Faith is the condition, that believing bit,
Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Rom_4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Col 2:11, In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12, Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:12, Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Do you even know what His baptism was.
Mar 10:38 But Jesus said unto them, Ye know not what ye ask: can ye drink of the cup that I drink of? and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?
You still missed it, Hus cup was His suffering His baptism was His death. Water baptism does nothing but no harm in it but it is not a requirement for salvation, having faith, believing is, without faith we cannot please God, and that is what is lacking.
Why did Jesus get baptized Himself if not as an example for us to follow?
1Jo 2:6, He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
And I don't teach that baptism in Jesus' Name is the only way in to salvation; that a person cannot enter in to the kingdom by faith alone.
I say that baptism in Jesus' Name is definitely a way to remove all doubt if there is any lack of assurance in your life.
Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13.
Whosoever believeth and is baptized shall be saved. Mark 16:16
Whosoever believeth in Him should not perish. John 3:16.
The heavenly Father shall give the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him. Luke 11:13.
If anyone is baptized in Jesus' Name for the remission of sins, they shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (and remission of sins). Acts of the Apostles 2:38-39.
Have you ever bothered to ask Him, it was a necessity, He was without Sin, did He need to be baptized?? for what...
Doesnt matter what you do, if you dont believe all the doing in the world wont change anything, doing comes from lack of believing.
It is finished,
I believe...and yet I also do.
I walk in the works that God has foreordained that I should walk in (Ephesians 2:10); because the Lord has placed His love in my heart (Romans 5:5) through faith (Galatians 3:14) and I walk in obedience to that love (1 John 3:17-18).
So doing does not come from lack of believing. Not doing is the result of not believing or else having a faith that is dead.
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