The Destruction of American Freedom, Liberty, and Captialism

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Justadude

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My opinion is that if Christian parents want their children to grow up happily heterosexual, the best thing they can do is provide an example for them. Show those kids how happy a man and a woman can be together.

Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Why blame other people if you don't like how children turn out? Why not hold parents accountable? Why blame schools or pedophiles? It amazes me how some evangelicals think. They belong to churches that can't teach their children how to pray -- no, they want public schools to do that.
That's a very good point. Given how conservatism holds "personal responsibility" as a fundamental tenet, you'd think if their kids didn't turn out how they wanted they'd take personal responsibility for that.
 
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Hi historyb,

I think the real problem is a world going to hell in a handbasket! But if you develop your "secret place with Jesus" you can retreat there, well, all the time works best.

@Hidden In Him is where we can be at peace. "You will keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is anchored on You."

This can be you:

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Much love!

PS . . . I've been having to fight against depression too! Ain't life grand?

Thank you. I love lighthouses. After I wrote this and got it out I feel better, I needed to vent and I realized this morning that liberal progressive are to be pitted and we should feel sorry for them because the stuff is either a metal illness or a demon.
 

Enoch111

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@marksman you were wondering why I referred to some Christians as the Christian version of the Taliban. Here ya go.
Coming from a clueless rank liberal, that's a compliment. But name-calling does not resolve issues. Neither does everyone in government sitting on their hands and complaining, instead of fulfilling their solemn responsibilities.

The destruction of America began with Leftist-Islamist Obama, but people simply closed their eyes to what was happening for eight years. Trump had a golden opportunity to restore the rule of law and the supremacy of the Constitution in public affairs, and he failed to do so. Partly he was sabotaged, and partly he sabotaged himself.

Speaking of the Taliban, Afghanistan was a lost cause from day one. Actually from about 330 BC when Alexander failed. All Trump had to do was pull out of there completely, stop all financial and military aid to Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq, and focus all those men and dollars on building a solid wall right across the US southern border within 12 months of taking office (while ignoring all the naysayers, backbiters, complainers, and traitors in government).

At the same time he should have published an Executive Order (just like Obama) and declared DACA to be completely illegal (since that is what it actually was). Then he should have systematically deported all illegals back to their home countries. His trade deal with Mexico should have had a clause regarding this critical matter. Now, the Leftist Supreme Court has decided to assume executive powers and sabotage Trump once again.
 

Justadude

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Coming from a clueless rank liberal, that's a compliment. But name-calling does not resolve issues.
It's not name-calling. It's a fact that, like the Taliban, you would use the power of government to force people to live according to your religion. What's truly ironic (and hypocritical) is that you would cry, scream, and fight if anyone from another religion tried to do that to you.
 

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Yes. In both cases we have believers in a religion seeking to use the force of government to impose their beliefs onto society, including onto those who are not of their religion.
We have a number of laws that regulate public behavior. Or are you advocating for anarchy?

OH. I get it! You are assuming that it's because I'm Christian that I don't consider homosexuality fit to be normalized, or paraded in front of my children.
 

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I think that's what's really behind much of the angst from evangelical Christians in this thread....the days where they could force everyone, even non-Christians, to abide and live by their beliefs are largely over. I suppose though in one sense, seeing Christians wail and gnash their teeth during the transition to a post-Christian society should be expected.
 

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We have a number of laws that regulate public behavior. Or are you advocating for anarchy?
Seriously? You can only envision two scenarios, either a Christian theocracy or anarchy? Come on.

OH. I get it! You are assuming that it's because I'm Christian that I don't consider homosexuality fit to be normalized, or paraded in front of my children.
Ah, so you're just a natural-born bigot who found Christianity. I can see how that's possible.
 

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It's not name-calling. It's a fact that, like the Taliban, you would use the power of government to force people to live according to your religion. What's truly ironic (and hypocritical) is that you would cry, scream, and fight if anyone from another religion tried to do that to you.
You don't think that's already happening? Try . . . Humanism.
 
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Seriously? You can only envision two scenarios, either a Christian theocracy or anarchy? Come on.

We already have laws that regulate public behavior. So, then, do you think that it's wrong to have laws that regulate public behavior? And why would it have to be a theocracy? This nation is Not a theocracy, and yet we have those laws . . . right?

Or should we not have any of those laws? That is, do you prefer more of an anarchist position?

You want to make my desire to not have public displays of drunkeness, and drug addiction, and homosexuality, and pedophilia, and let's not just keep naming every harmful thing, you want this to be about being a Christian.

So then since you are not a Christian, are you OK with public pedophilia?
 

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Ah, so you're just a natural-born bigot who found Christianity. I can see how that's possible.
Ad hominems . . . the last refuge of those without a leg to stand on . . .

Right. I'm just a bigot! Successfully dismissed!
 
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You don't think that's already happening? Try . . . Humanism.
Really? Where?

We already have laws that regulate public behavior. So, then, do you think that it's wrong to have laws that regulate public behavior? And why would it have to be a theocracy? This nation is Not a theocracy, and yet we have those laws . . . right?

Or should we not have any of those laws? That is, do you prefer more of an anarchist position?
Do you understand the difference between having laws that "regulate public behavior" and having laws that "regulate public behavior based on the Christian religion"?

You want to make my desire to not have public displays of drunkeness, and drug addiction, and homosexuality, and pedophilia, and let's not just keep naming every harmful thing, you want this to be about being a Christian.

So then since you are not a Christian, are you OK with public pedophilia?
This is what makes you a bigot. You can't talk about LGBTQs as people, you can only speak of them as equivalent to pedophiles.

Ad hominems . . . the last refuge of those without a leg to stand on . . .

Right. I'm just a bigot! Successfully dismissed!
If you're going to be a bigot, at least own it.
 

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...you would use the power of government to force people to live according to your religion.
That is totally false. The government has no business in bedrooms, and the bedrooms have no business in government policy. And that's what the Leftists are unable to comprehend.
 
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Do you understand the difference between having laws that "regulate public behavior" and having laws that "regulate public behavior based on the Christian religion"?
You're the one equating my values with your perception of "Christian religion". I don't want that stuff because it's bad for people. Accept that reality, or keep reframing it into your pet peeve, whatever you want.

Really? Where?
Where do you see the effects of Humanism? Seriously?

This is what makes you a bigot. You can't talk about LGBTQs as people, you can only speak of them as equivalent to pedophiles.

I'm not talking about lgbtq, I said homosexuality. And homosexuals as well as pedophiles are deviant. And I'm not saying that in some bigoted way. Nonsense! You seem to feel the need to call people bigot who have different idea than you. I'm just stating a fact. Homosexuality is a deviation. Do you not think so? So is pedophilia. These lifestyles and behaviors destroy people. And that's true whatever religion someone identifies with.

Of course these are people! People with needs, and if we are to love others in the way we should, don't you think we should know what that means?
 
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Liberals out there reading this I don't give a rat's behind what you all think, you evil vile types. I say with my strength I hate liberals. You liberals are the problem.
I realized this morning that liberal progressive are to be pitted and we should feel sorry for them because the stuff is either a metal illness or a demon

I feel like that too sometimes but im glad that u seem to have purged that hate away.
There are different types of liberals. Some of them truly believe that they are morally superior and that anyone who doesn't agree must be evil.
On the opposite end are the liberals that know exactly what they are doing and worship evil. And there are people in between

We can point the finger at millennial liberals but i also put the blame of conservatives and the Church.
The radical liberals have taken control of education and the media. This took some years to achieve but no one did anything to counter it.
Now most people under 40yo and almost every person under 30yo is a liberal. And these younger ones have been taught all kinds of falsehoods
 
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So I had a talk with the moderators and it looks like they took action and banned him, his profile is unavailable. We don't need any bad influences here at Christianity Board. Thank you mods.
 

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I feel like that too sometimes but im glad that u seem to have purged that hate away.
There are different types of liberals. Some of them truly believe that they are morally superior and that anyone who doesn't agree must be evil.
On the opposite end are the liberals that know exactly what they are doing and worship evil. And there are people in between

I haven't purged just pushed further inside just like I am expected to push everything inside. I am afraid I am like Anakin (even though he is fictional)

We can point the finger at millennial liberals but i also put the blame of conservatives and the Church.
The radical liberals have taken control of education and the media. This took some years to achieve but no one did anything to counter it.
Now most people under 40yo and almost every person under 30yo is a liberal. And these younger ones have been taught all kinds of falsehoods

We been silent for to long and let down society with our inaction, both Christians and Conservatives are to blame. During the passage of Roe V. Wade in America no one lifted a cry except Catholics that is not right that other Christians would not fight the evil of Abortion back then. Liberals are winning because Christians and Conservatives are doing nothing.
 
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During the passage of Roe V. Wade in America no one lifted a cry except Catholics that is not right that other Christians would not fight the evil of Abortion back then.
You are absolutely correct. The Supreme Court ABUSED its power in this Roe v Wade decision, and everyone just stood by and let them ride roughshod over the Constitution and common sense. Thus in 2020, the Supreme Court decided to (1) shred the Constitution, (2) assume legislative powers, and (3) assume administrative presidential powers, all in one fell swoop. Does Trump have the guts to challenge and defy the Supreme Court which is violating the Constitution?
Liberals are winning because Christians and Conservatives are doing nothing.
True again. At this point both Christians and Conservatives, along with all the 700,000+ police officers in America, should march on the Capitol and the Supreme Court with placards and speeches to condemn both the legislature and the judiciary for violating their oaths of office. Imagine a couple of million or more challenging the rascals in DC who are there to serve the people and live off tax-payer dollars.

If BLM and Antifa can get away with their shenanigans, it is high time that right-thinking people get their act together. The President should be providing the impetus, but looks like he has surrender to all the conspirators.
 
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If BLM and Antifa can get away with their shenanigans, it is high time that right-thinking people get their act together

I think the right thinking people are cowards The President is doing everything he can, as Rush said just because we don't see something does not mean things aren't happening behind the scenes. President Trump is like no President we have ever had, he is a shrewd business man and does many things behind the scenes. Believe me those idiots in DC are being driven right where President Trump whats them. No one knows how to deal with him so what do they do? Tell us how bad we are, how terrible we are for being us and what they done is assured that Trump wins and they lose. I know people who can't stand Trump but because of what the libs have done they are now supporting him.
 
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