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@Cristo Rei I am no political expert, I stood against the LGBTQ education that they were trying to push onto kids at schools.

We can agree that Dan does not hold good positions on

-abortions
-euthanasia
and
-rainbow politics

But that does not mean that everything he does is wrong, the DLP and ALP split into 2 different parties decades ago.

Do u support a change from capitalism?
 

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I hereby declare Melbourne to be the first city in the western world to collapse under the foot of communism... It has died and is never returning...

Beware, Satan's minions are everywhere and they're trying to take your town...
I left Melbourne 2 year's and 7 months ago to avoid a potential catastrophe.
 
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@Cristo Rei I am no political expert, I stood against the LGBTQ education that they were trying to push onto kids at schools.

We can agree that Dan does not hold good positions on

-abortions
-euthanasia
and
-rainbow politics

But that does not mean that everything he does is wrong, the DLP and ALP split into 2 different parties decades ago.

Victoria is the only state in Australia or America to suspend parliament... Its the only state thats being dictated to by their leader...
And your ok with that? How? How can anyone possibly be ok with being dictated to...
Tell me the truth... Are u a Socialist??? Like my sis???
 

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Very sad indeed!!! Many cities in America are going the same route.

Ye but from what I understand no American state has given these kind of powers to their leaders...
Post #24 explains it but basically our state leader is able to make and change laws by himself without the senate... Like a dictator
 
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Hahahaha...your bird is just relaxed :D and it's beautiful...mine is just a cartoon of the dove so...let's call it even! :)

They are beautiful... Cockatiel... I had one that looked just like it... It was so smart for a bird i potty trained it even...:D

But how did u get your bird flying??? I tried using a GIF but it didn't work
 

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For the record him and I didn't have anything to clear up. I think u mixed him up with someone else, Jay Ross your thinking about

Cristo, personally, I had no problems with you either except for what you were pushing. Your wanting to blame someone else for your apparent lack of governance of yourself.

There are many verses and encouragements from God to Pray for the political governments that He, God, has allowed to govern all of the people in the nations where we find ourselves. It seem to me that your fight is more against God than it is against me.

But it is okay for you to blame me for your rants and the fake news/claims that you used to belittle me with. But you have been forgiven for your one sided discussion which was not focused on the content but on the messenger instead. It showed that you were not wanting to have a discussion on the actual issues because you would have been called out about your "Christian" rants, not just by me but by others, on this forum, as well.

As I have previously stated very early in this thread, I am willing to have a discussion with you, but your beef with me/God got in the way of that being able to happen. Please address your issues and stop blaming others for what you perceive is wrong with this world.

I cannot force you to change. I can only effect change on myself as I continually "renew" my mind in Christ. Perhaps you may like to do that as well, effecting the necessary changes on yourself to be become more and more like Him.

Shalom

PS: - I do know what forgiveness costs when I have offered to help out people from the other side of the street, so to speak, from me. The $5,000+ tab, when I tried to help to fix someone's mouth, but after he did not go through with the procedure, I still had to pay. Or the $130,000+ cost of providing this same person with a truck to drive to earn a living from. He walked away from the deal because I would not let him do what he wanted to do, but instead, I imposed boundaries on what was acceptable conduct for him to comply with. God, did not leave me with a debt because I was generous to this person, but over a number of years, God had the debt paid off. But that is another story as well. This story played out over the last 20 or so years.

I am only telling you this story because of your false/fake facts about me, which you knew nothing about, when you attacked the messenger and did not begin a conversation about the root issues of the problem, in question, as to why God allowed the event to unfold as they did/have.
 

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Sad to say that the left has orchestrated a divided nation full of special interest groups that all want the ascendancy in society. The day was when almost everyone obeyed their parents; the law of the land; the government of the day; the Police; the school they went to; and the boss at work. It would not enter our heads to organize a protest because something happened that we did not like.

Oh i totally forgot about u... Born and raised in Melbourne as well, right. I hope your doing well during this madness.
I think i missed those days your talking about, maybe a bit in the 80s when i was a kid but not in the 90s.

I tagged u on another thread to look at some old pictures of Melbourne... I love to see how things were before me and i like to hear and read about how things were before me... So make sure u go there and have a look at the pics... Some old stories would be fantastic, if u have the time...
I remember when the rialto was the only sky scraper and when docklands and southbank weren't there... LoL but thats all

Did u ever think you would see the left do this? Its typical but, if given the choice they will always choose to remove the opposition rather than democracy. It's what the left does now, they've forgotten how to debate. After the Hawk/Keating era they turned to the dark side.

The thing is that Victoria has been the only state that has been under this state of emergency for 6 months almost and no one knows, the media have kept it all so hush hush, cheering on the dictator... Is he a boy trying to do a mans job or is he an evil mastermind... he has legally become a tyrant.

The state of emergency 6 month limit ends in September 13... Will Gan give back this unprecedented powers???
His already working to extend that 6 month law. He says we will beat the virus...
So as long as there is just 1 case he can continue his legal dictatorship under the guise of "state of emergency"
 
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Victoria is the only state in Australia or America to suspend parliament... Its the only state thats being dictated to by their leader...
And your ok with that? How? How can anyone possibly be ok with being dictated to...
Tell me the truth... Are u a Socialist??? Like my sis???

Well the government could have just done no restrictions at the cost of thousands and thousands of more lives being lost. It's simply not worth it having no restrictions or minimum restrictions which a minority wanted, you remember there was 700+ new cases in 24 hours with stage 3 restrictions a few weeks ago, now we are down to 179 new cases in the last 24 hours with stage 4 restrictions.

But then look at WA though, they want to make people in hotel quarantine wear ankle bracelets, don't those people in hotel quarantine have it tougher?

Look at the 9 public housing towers that were totally locked down for 2 weeks when things started getting bad again in Melbourne, they had harder tougher restrictions than stage 4, I don't have anything to complain about compared to them, but the government stopped the numbers from getting a lot higher than what it reached.

Not long ago the people of Colac were begging the government for a lockdown with their outbreak. So did people have any say? The the government listen to their say?
 

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Well the government could have just done no restrictions at the cost of thousands and thousands of more lives being lost. It's simply not worth it having no restrictions or minimum restrictions which a minority wanted, you remember there was 700+ new cases in 24 hours with stage 3 restrictions a few weeks ago, now we are down to 179 new cases in the last 24 hours with stage 4 restrictions.

But then look at WA though, they want to make people in hotel quarantine wear ankle bracelets, don't those people in hotel quarantine have it tougher?

Look at the 9 public housing towers that were totally locked down for 2 weeks when things started getting bad again in Melbourne, they had harder tougher restrictions than stage 4, I don't have anything to complain about compared to them, but the government stopped the numbers from getting a lot higher than what it reached.

Not long ago the people of Colac were begging the government for a lockdown with their outbreak. So did people have any say? The the government listen to their say?

Mate, forget all that, forget about how well Dan has done... Im taking to u about the political situation we are in now...
Read post #24.

- Victoria has been in a "state of emergency" for almost 6 months... Only state...
- Dan has used extra powers to block parliament, silence the liberal party, and pass bills on his own... Without the senate...

Example:
All the lockdown laws that were introduced in NSW and every other state was done so democratically, through the senate...

But in Victoria, the laws were NOT introduced democratically, they didn't go through the senate, parliament is closed...
In Victoria the laws were dictated to us... One party made the laws and passed them in, Dan's party...
 
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@Cristo Rei ..this link addresses your thread head-on

read link below..

No Travel ANYWHERE, If No Vaccination

APAK

Ye, Bill had mentioned it as well... But there is no vaccine yet... So it still makes no sense why we can't leave...
And even then, the country your flying to is the one that will be wanting vax certification. There is no reason for this country to hold u here

We are being held captive against our own will now... We want to leave, we have no court orders or any other reason why we can't go
 
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Oh i totally forgot about u... Born and raised in Melbourne as well, right. I hope your doing well during this madness.
I think i missed those days your talking about, maybe a bit in the 80s when i was a kid but not in the 90s.

I tagged u on another thread to look at some old pictures of Melbourne... I love to see how things were before me and i like to hear and read about how things were before me... So make sure u go there and have a look at the pics... Some old stories would be fantastic, if u have the time...
I remember when the rialto was the only sky scraper and when docklands and southbank weren't there... LoL but thats all

Did u ever think you would see the left do this? Its typical but, if given the choice they will always choose to remove the opposition rather than democracy. It's what the left does now, they've forgotten how to debate. After the Hawk/Keating era they turned to the dark side.

The thing is that Victoria has been the only state that has been under this state of emergency for 6 months almost and no one knows, the media have kept it all so hush hush, cheering on the dictator... Is he a boy trying to do a mans job or is he an evil mastermind... he has legally become a tyrant.

The state of emergency 6 month limit ends in September 13... Will Gan give back this unprecedented powers???
His already working to extend that 6 month law. He says we will beat the virus...
So as long as there is just 1 case he can continue his legal dictatorship under the guise of "state of emergency"

I have some prints of how Melbourne was. A beaut one of the Melbourne Cricket Ground before it had any buildings around it.

I was thinking that most dictatorships are a frog in the water scenario. Does not realize that you are a frog in hot water until you are in hot water. Hitler was very popular in the 30s because he was a good Treasurer and sorted out Germany's economy. And then Satan put in his head that he wanted to be more than the saviour of Germany. He wanted to be the saviour of the world. It was all downhill from then on.
 
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I have some prints of how Melbourne was. A beaut one of the Melbourne Cricket Ground before it had any buildings around it.

I was thinking that most dictatorships are a frog in the water scenario. Does not realize that you are a frog in hot water until you are in hot water. Hitler was very popular in the 30s because he was a good Treasurer and sorted out Germany's economy. And then Satan put in his head that he wanted to be more than the saviour of Germany. He wanted to be the saviour of the world. It was all downhill from then on.

Have a look at these... Aussie and Kiwi politics

So u grew in in Melbourne, right??? What area...
I grew up in the north west and live around here still
 

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From a current article written from the States.....

Melbourne is "Falling Apart"
August 23, 2020


kapos.jpg

(left, no shortage of people willing to be kapos in the NWO concentration camp)

After being eaten by Satanist termites for decades, western societies are
disintegrating. Melbourne, a sophisticated metropolis of five million, has
become a dystopian nightmare. The only consolation is that its
population is Leftist and getting a taste of their own medicine.








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My state is in absolute disarray. I don't even know where to begin but I think by now if you are reading this you know about the draconian measures currently enforced in Victoria, Australia, particularly Melbourne. If you don't know the specifics of what's happening here I'd recommend searching Victoria or Melbourne in r/conspiracy to read stories of human rights violations and severe police enforcement. What's worse is that the tone around here is generally apathetic or support for these measures. Particularly on the hard left, who were protesting to dismantle cops mere months ago as part of BLM. It's pure cognitive dissonance.
Thankfully I don't live in Melbourne, I moved away to regional Victoria just in time in 2018. But many of my friends are still there. Here are some of the measures enforced and stories I've gathered, for Melbourne and Victoria:
Strict curfew 8pm-5am. (76 people were fined for breaching curfew within the first 24 hours, including a man fined $1652 for getting a burger on the way home from work)
Mandatory masks in all of Victoria (even where I live, 90 minutes from Melbourne in a town where the nearest COVID case was 40 minutes away, and that was months ago. No reported covid death within a 150km radius of where I live but I still am made to feel like I need to wear a mask and avoid all human contact.)
No travel except for "essential activities".
Army deployed at stops outside of Melbourne to prevent anyone getting out or in. Heavy police and army presence on foot in the streets and on the roads and in the skies.
Police can enter your home without a warrant and there are reports of police breaking car windows to force people to hand over details.
The media and government have started talking about forced vaccinations this week.
Warnings on YouTube and Google regarding new censorship legislations
mel-lock.jpg

All of this and much more with 458 deaths. Our annual influenza death rate sits at about 500-800, and they're saying influenza has completely disappeared in Australia this year. Nearly all deaths are in nursing homes. For perspective, our annual suicide rate is about 3000 annually, but I've read reports that we've already far surpassed that number in 2020. The majority of suicides occur in people under 44. This boggles my mind the most, especially since I was hospitalized for an attempt in November and have been treated like absolute crap by the mental health system since. COVID concerns or symptoms are treated with the utmost importance and there are specialist testing tents set up in nearly every large regional town near where I live and everywhere in the city and they're often empty.
There is a great Facebook group called Millions Rise for Australia which is absolutely flooded with real-world stories of Australians like me enduring absolute hell at the moment. I'd recommend everyone who cares jump in and join the group for support and to witness the insanity we are living via personal accounts. I've read lots of conspiratorial reports in that group of people in Melbourne hearing helicopters and planes flying overhead during the curfew spraying, odd sulfur smells during the curfew, waking up with yellow powder over the streets, birds waking and chirping hours early at 11pm-2am, explosions (I've experienced this where I live too), rumors of child trafficking rescue missions.
Something is definitely going on here and my mind is absolutely spinning with the myriad conspiracies on my own f----- doorstep. I've never posted in this group (I've been a lurker for years), but I check daily for Melbourne updates and felt I'd share my brain dump. I may share more stories as I see them arise but all of this just makes me feel so sick mentally. They're making anyone who questions the narrative feel psychotic and for me, that's what's destroying me the most, emotions exasperated by my pre-existing mental illness (BPD with delusional episodes).
I don't know what this post is besides a rant and awareness-raising for my fellow empathetic humans overseas. Please just spare a thought for us here, join the FB group to help show our government the world won't stand for this, and if your time comes, just don't buckle under government pressure like we have. I do believe we are a testing ground for either a new world order or some kind of communist/China takeover (the later is especially interesting given Victoria's relationship to China.) As a society, Victorians are notoriously apathetic, easy-going, and progressively people-centric.
To me, it feels like Victoria and NZ could be a testing ground for forced vax and/or majorly increased censorship and/or new world order/China dictatorship.
Thank you. I really thought this was a lucky country. I like Australians as people, particularly the cool kids in Melbourne as that was my home for nearly 10 years, but this whole situation has me questioning the critical thinking and brain processing power of even some of my closest and oldest friends, and basically this entire state. It's truly bizarre but I'm glad I'm not alone; there is definitely an uprising in people seeking truth.
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Read all the comments here.
Here in Norway, on the other side of the globe, we have a population of 5 million, and 13 (thirteen) people are currently (as of yesterday) hospitalized with covid-19. Zero of these are on ventilators. You can count our summer covid deaths on one hand, and those are elderly people who would've died by the flu anyway. Our average covid death age is higher than the general age of death.
Despite this, our government and our MSM are threatening to close down the country once more. Several schools are currently closed and under quarantine, due to "local outbreaks". There are severe restrictions on the size of social gatherings (except BLM protests), and small businesses are going bankrupt by the hour, while unemployment is rising exponentially.
Hospitals are empty (my SO works as a nurse on a covid ward), and regular diseases aren't treated anymore, at least not by our public healthcare system. --
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I live in Melbourne and it is definitely affecting me. I'm a lonely person who has almost zero interaction outside work but what helps keep myself occupied and feel better is spending time outdoors and in the gym.
Now, I'm bored to death and there's absolutely nothing to do. I've already gotten sick of binge-watching movies/series and grinding levels in my card box in the last 4 months and it's driving me nuts knowing I can't do anything about it.
I gained from 60kg to 76kg due to binge eating trash thanks to our dictator wannabe state government that severely restricted our movement.
I have to carry work permits all the time like everyone and worry about getting stopped at checkpoints outside work hours.

and there's more.....

I hope Melbourne can recover from this cancer of control and evil....to try this in the States would be suicide for the globalists and enforcement cronies...people are armed over here...

APAK
 
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From a current article written from the States.....

Melbourne is "Falling Apart"
August 23, 2020


kapos.jpg

(left, no shortage of people willing to be kapos in the NWO concentration camp)

After being eaten by Satanist termites for decades, western societies are
disintegrating. Melbourne, a sophisticated metropolis of five million, has
become a dystopian nightmare. The only consolation is that its
population is Leftist and getting a taste of their own medicine.








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(henrymakow.com)



My state is in absolute disarray. I don't even know where to begin but I think by now if you are reading this you know about the draconian measures currently enforced in Victoria, Australia, particularly Melbourne. If you don't know the specifics of what's happening here I'd recommend searching Victoria or Melbourne in r/conspiracy to read stories of human rights violations and severe police enforcement. What's worse is that the tone around here is generally apathetic or support for these measures. Particularly on the hard left, who were protesting to dismantle cops mere months ago as part of BLM. It's pure cognitive dissonance.
Thankfully I don't live in Melbourne, I moved away to regional Victoria just in time in 2018. But many of my friends are still there. Here are some of the measures enforced and stories I've gathered, for Melbourne and Victoria:
Strict curfew 8pm-5am. (76 people were fined for breaching curfew within the first 24 hours, including a man fined $1652 for getting a burger on the way home from work)
Mandatory masks in all of Victoria (even where I live, 90 minutes from Melbourne in a town where the nearest COVID case was 40 minutes away, and that was months ago. No reported covid death within a 150km radius of where I live but I still am made to feel like I need to wear a mask and avoid all human contact.)
No travel except for "essential activities".
Army deployed at stops outside of Melbourne to prevent anyone getting out or in. Heavy police and army presence on foot in the streets and on the roads and in the skies.
Police can enter your home without a warrant and there are reports of police breaking car windows to force people to hand over details.
The media and government have started talking about forced vaccinations this week.
Warnings on YouTube and Google regarding new censorship legislations
mel-lock.jpg

All of this and much more with 458 deaths. Our annual influenza death rate sits at about 500-800, and they're saying influenza has completely disappeared in Australia this year. Nearly all deaths are in nursing homes. For perspective, our annual suicide rate is about 3000 annually, but I've read reports that we've already far surpassed that number in 2020. The majority of suicides occur in people under 44. This boggles my mind the most, especially since I was hospitalized for an attempt in November and have been treated like absolute crap by the mental health system since. COVID concerns or symptoms are treated with the utmost importance and there are specialist testing tents set up in nearly every large regional town near where I live and everywhere in the city and they're often empty.
There is a great Facebook group called Millions Rise for Australia which is absolutely flooded with real-world stories of Australians like me enduring absolute hell at the moment. I'd recommend everyone who cares jump in and join the group for support and to witness the insanity we are living via personal accounts. I've read lots of conspiratorial reports in that group of people in Melbourne hearing helicopters and planes flying overhead during the curfew spraying, odd sulfur smells during the curfew, waking up with yellow powder over the streets, birds waking and chirping hours early at 11pm-2am, explosions (I've experienced this where I live too), rumors of child trafficking rescue missions.
Something is definitely going on here and my mind is absolutely spinning with the myriad conspiracies on my own fucking doorstep. I've never posted in this group (I've been a lurker for years), but I check daily for Melbourne updates and felt I'd share my brain dump. I may share more stories as I see them arise but all of this just makes me feel so sick mentally. They're making anyone who questions the narrative feel psychotic and for me, that's what's destroying me the most, emotions exasperated by my pre-existing mental illness (BPD with delusional episodes).
I don't know what this post is besides a rant and awareness-raising for my fellow empathetic humans overseas. Please just spare a thought for us here, join the FB group to help show our government the world won't stand for this, and if your time comes, just don't buckle under government pressure like we have. I do believe we are a testing ground for either a new world order or some kind of communist/China takeover (the later is especially interesting given Victoria's relationship to China.) As a society, Victorians are notoriously apathetic, easy-going, and progressively people-centric.
To me, it feels like Victoria and NZ could be a testing ground for forced vax and/or majorly increased censorship and/or new world order/China dictatorship.
Thank you. I really thought this was a lucky country. I like Australians as people, particularly the cool kids in Melbourne as that was my home for nearly 10 years, but this whole situation has me questioning the critical thinking and brain processing power of even some of my closest and oldest friends, and basically this entire state. It's truly bizarre but I'm glad I'm not alone; there is definitely an uprising in people seeking truth.
------------------
Read all the comments here.
Here in Norway, on the other side of the globe, we have a population of 5 million, and 13 (thirteen) people are currently (as of yesterday) hospitalized with covid-19. Zero of these are on ventilators. You can count our summer covid deaths on one hand, and those are elderly people who would've died by the flu anyway. Our average covid death age is higher than the general age of death.
Despite this, our government and our MSM are threatening to close down the country once more. Several schools are currently closed and under quarantine, due to "local outbreaks". There are severe restrictions on the size of social gatherings (except BLM protests), and small businesses are going bankrupt by the hour, while unemployment is rising exponentially.
Hospitals are empty (my SO works as a nurse on a covid ward), and regular diseases aren't treated anymore, at least not by our public healthcare system. --
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I live in Melbourne and it is definitely affecting me. I'm a lonely person who has almost zero interaction outside work but what helps keep myself occupied and feel better is spending time outdoors and in the gym.
Now, I'm bored to death and there's absolutely nothing to do. I've already gotten sick of binge-watching movies/series and grinding levels in my card box in the last 4 months and it's driving me nuts knowing I can't do anything about it.
I gained from 60kg to 76kg due to binge eating trash thanks to our dictator wannabe state government that severely restricted our movement.
I have to carry work permits all the time like everyone and worry about getting stopped at checkpoints outside work hours.

and there's more.....

I hope Melbourne can recover from this cancer of control and evil....to try this in the States would be suicide for the globalists and enforcement cronies...people are armed over here...

APAK


Hi Apak!
Martial Law, coming to a town near you...the sad thing is none of this should surprise us as Christians. I thought I would be 6 ft. under before all of this stuff started to break lose. I have 17 nieces and nephews and am always praying for them. They are not very receptive to the things of God...just looking at their FB pages tells me that! We have quite a few on here that are from Australia, I pray God for their protection and strength. Sad, sad, sad. :(
 
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