Jesus isn't Catholic

[BreadOfLife]

Bullying on stupid irrelevant things!

Umpteen things the Catholic Church teaches is Not in Scripture...and Why Umpteen Threads have been started giving Catholics an opportunity to quote Scripture that says what they say...
And ... it just doesn't exist in Scripture!

Nobody is "bullying" anybody.
We're having a conversation that seems to be bothering YOU for some reason.

If you don't like it - don't read it . . .

 

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What the heck is that!!!?

 

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Nobody is "bullying" anybody.

LOL

 

[BreadOfLife]

The Holy Spirit will guide into all truth those who have Him....God does not confer the Holy Spirit on someone just because they belong to a church of a certain title.
He gives the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him (Luke 11:9-13).

These promises were given in holy scripture to anyone who would take hold of them by faith.
(see 2 Peter 1:3-4, Hebrews 11:33, 2 Corinthians 1:20, Romans 4:20-22).

WRONG.

When Jesus spoke to the CROWDS - he was instructing every individual.
When Jesus instructed His inner circle - He was instructing the leaders of His Church.

And the rejection of this Biblical truth is the source of MUCH of the confusion and splintering of Protestantism.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Listen deceiver.
Its not about the age of accountability.
Its about having faith in the GOSPEL. "faith comes by hearing", and salvation is based on FAITH.
Babies can't have faith, and very young children cannot understand what "blood sacrifice" is all about or what "SIN" is all about, and why its the Grace of God that is Salvation.
So, a person has to have the ability to hear the Gospel and Believe it, to become born again.
Babies dont have it. 2 Yr olds can't hear it. And you as of yet, have no clue, yourself, deceiver.
So, what your cult does, is omits the Cross, omits the Blood of Jesus, and deceives children and you, and all Cult of Mary obsessed with the idea that "just get the water, and you'll be saved"
NONSENSE, = The Devil's lie.

Then, maybe YOU can answer the questions that all of your fellow ignorant anti-Catholics are too afraid to answer . . .

1. How old DOES a kid have to be to be saved?
2. Do kids that are too young to "accept Chrsit" go to Hell?

Take your time, son.
I'll wait right here . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

S-T-R-E-T-C-H ---

So IOW, you've got nothing, that says Mary was SINLESS.

Whoop, Whoop The Word of God, Prevails!

Rom 3

1. [23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Rom.5

1. [12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Whoop! Whoop!

Rev 12:1
The Woman is Israel.
The 12 Stars are the 12 Tribes

eccessors? Scripture?


The ONE Church...is Christ's Church.
Built upon Belief, Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God.
Christ is the Head and the First Foundational Cornerstone and The Rock of His Church.
And every Added member to Christ's Church, is likened to additional stones.

What don't you get? God doesn't search Birth-dates of People!

LOL - Tens of Thousands...

Them- the Ten of Thousands? Why don't you ask Them...and give us a report of those Tens of Thousands? LOL

Sooooooo, basically, I see a bunch of denials of my Scriptural proofs - but no refutations.

Gee - I WONDER why . . . .

 

[justbyfaith]

Hi JBF,

Sooooo what I understand you to be asking is why doesn't anyone today who does not recognize the actual body/blood of the Lord in the bread/wine not die and/or get sick? I guess if you take literally what Paul said that would be a good question. Perhaps Paul meant get sick/die in the faith? You make a good point!! Soooo why don't you take what Jesus said as being literal: "This IS my body/blood"???

The point I am trying to make is why would Paul believe that sickness, death, and damnation result from an unworthy reception of the Eucharist if it were merely a symbol? Wouldn't such consequences be unintelligible if the Eucharist is a mere symbol?

If the bread/wine is a mere symbol of His body/blood how do YOU fulfill John 6:53-58?

Curious Mary

Jesus is the Word (John 1:1, John 1:14)...so we partake of His flesh by partaking of the word of God (like pure spiritual milk, 1 Peter 2:1-3). And we also partake of His blood by appropriating His blood to our lives; by receiving the forgiveness of sins that is given through His shed blood.

John 6:53-58 also speaks symbolically.

Hi JBF,

Sooooo your belief is that Jesus lied to the Apostles when he took the bread/wine, held it up in front of them and said "This IS my body/blood"???

No, He was using the literary tactic of metaphor. In that literary tactic, a person may say, "this is this"....when in all reality what he means is "this represents this."

WRONG.

When Jesus spoke to the CROWDS - he was instructing every individual.
When Jesus instructed His inner circle - He was instructing the leaders of His Church.

And the rejection of this Biblical truth is the source of MUCH of the confusion and splintering of Protestantism.

The fact that the promises in question are recorded in scripture indicates that they are for us who are able to read the promises (2 Peter 1:3-4, Hebrews 11:33, 2 Corinthians 1:20, Romans 4:20-22).

 

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Sooooooo, basically, I see a bunch of denials of my Scriptural proofs - but no refutations.

Gee - I WONDER why . . . .

DUH-
Because your Scriptural proofs DO NOT exist.
LOL-

 

[justbyfaith]

I know I'm butting in...

1. How old DOES a kid have to be to be saved?

The Lord knows what that age is for each individual.

Though I perceive that it is a trick question.

Because a child will potentially be saved if they die before the age of accountability; but they will be lost if they fail to receive Christ after reaching that age.

Actually, I believe that they will be given an opportunity to receive Christ after they pass to the other side if they have not yet reached the age of accountability when they die.

2. Do kids that are too young to "accept Chrsit" go to Hell?

No, they do not (2 Samuel 12:23).

 

[BreadOfLife]

The fact that the promises in question are recorded in scripture indicates that they are for us who are able to read the promises (2 Peter 1:3-4, Hebrews 11:33, 2 Corinthians 1:20, Romans 4:20-22).

WRONG.
NONE of the verses you posted above have ANYTHING to do with the guarantees and authority that Christ gave the leaders of His Church.

Talk about reaching . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I know I'm butting in...
The Lord knows what that age is for each individual.
Though I perceive that it is a trick question.

Because a child will potentially be saved if they die before the age of accountability; but they will be lost if they fail to receive Christ after reaching that age.

Actually, I believe that they will be given an opportunity to receive Christ after they pass to the other side if they have not yet reached the age of accountability when they die.

No offense - but I don''t care what YOU believe - I want to know what Scripture says about it.
YOU believe one thing - and the guy in the church down the street believes in another - and so on and so on . . .

No, they do not (2 Samuel 12:23).

This verse has absolutely NOTHING to do with what I asked.

Try again . . .
Do kids that are too young to "accept Christ" go to Hell?

Since YOU guys are Sola Scripturists - I want an explicit answer from the Bible.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

That s something I would never dare to say to another human being because I fear God.

Matt. 7:2
For with the judgment YOU pronounce YOU will be judged, and with the measure YOU use it will be measured to YOU.

Good luck with that . . .

According to the Book Of Galatians ,what do you think it means when a person “ falls from Grace “......How does one find himself in such an undesirable state, and what is the “ fall- out” of this fall .....thanks..

 

[BreadOfLife]

According to the Book Of Galatians ,what do you think it means when a person “ falls from Grace “......How does one find himself in such an undesirable state, and what is the “ fall- out” of this fall .....thanks..

Why do you ask?
What dos this have to do with what you are responding to?

I posted Matt 7:2 because my soul was being judged.

 

[BreadOfLife]

And the Papacy during the middle ages killed between 100 -150 million protestants. Oh the gross whoredoms committed all in the name of god upon the innocent.

Perhaps the dumbest of ALL anti-Catholic whoppers.
First of all, Einstein - an I use that name sarcastically - the Middle Ages were from the 5th to the 15th century.
Ummmmmm, this is BEFORE the Protestant Revolt in the 16th century - so there weren't "millions" of Protestants.

Secondly - modern historians estimate that if 100-150 million Protestants were wiped out in Europe - Europe would CEASE to exist.
In other words, genius (again, sarcasm intended) - there were HARDLY 150 million people to spare - even if you counted all of the Catholics.

Go sell your fairy tales someplace else . . .

 

[justbyfaith]

Mat 7:15, Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Mat 7:16, Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Mat 7:17, Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
Mat 7:18, A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Mat 7:19, Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Mat 7:20, Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

I believe that these scriptures apply in condemnation to some of the anti-Catholics on here as well as on some of the Catholics...

But I will say this...

I do not feel the need to respond to some of the Catholics on here because the fact that they bear bad fruit disqualifies them from being a valid source of information...

Their bad fruit disqualifies them from being anyone that I would want to listen to.

Because in fact, Jesus tells me in the scripture passage in question, not to listen to those who bear bad fruit (thorns and thistles) to the people with whom they are interacting.

And if you are a reader on these forums, He tells you the same thing.

 

[Behold]

You can't POSSIBLY be this dense . . .

Of COURSE "figure" means symbolic.

Yes, i know it means "symbolic".
But you think that water baptism is how you are saved.
This means you dont understand that its symbolic, and neither does your cult.

 

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However, EVERYBODY i Heaven besides God and the angels is Catholic . . .

Your religious insanity is showing again.

Listen, there are no catholics in heaven.
There are no denominations in heaven.
There are no "saved by water " in heaven.
So, .... you have a big problem that you can't solve with a cookie or the city water system.
Figure this out before you take your last breath.

 

[Behold]

1. How old DOES a kid have to be to be saved?
2. Do kids that are too young to "accept Chrsit" go to Hell?
Take your time, son.
I'll wait right here . . .

Everyone is saved exactly the same way.
They hear the Gospel, and they Believe on Christ, as they are convicted by the Holy Spirit into this Truth.
But, there is a distinction between this understanding and this application.
This is the part that you can't understand. so, hang around as long as you like, as maybe this will help you.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Why do you ask?
What dos this have to do with what you are responding to?

I posted Matt 7:2 because my soul was being judged.

I realized that my question kinda came out of nowhere.....there were some other posts in this thread that I could have tied my question to and it would have made better sense.....I was too lazy to look around for a more relevant post......apologies if I caused any aggravation.....I Believe most Protestants and ALL that adhere to catholic doctrine , live their entire lives “fallen from Grace” and are completely unaware of it.A serious charge.But if you read Galatians , I don’t see any getting around it....Almost every church adds to Paul’s Of Grace Plus Nothing....The Catholics are just a little more transparent about it.....your thoughts,please...

 

[justbyfaith]

There are no "saved by water " in heaven.

Actually, 1 Peter 3:20-21 (kjv) would point out a different story.

It is not that a man cannot be saved apart from water baptism (calling on the name of the Lord will do, Romans 10:13); but that a man can be saved through water baptism, as a confession of Christ, is evident from Matthew 10:32).

For baptism is an identification with and confession of Christ in His death, burial, and resurrection.

Of course only believer's baptism will do (Mark 16:16, Colossians 2:12).