Hell Fire

[kcnalp]

If you understood exegesis you would realize how ridiculous that statement is

Are you under the Law of Moses? Have you never heard of the New Covenant?

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

Have you read the Bible?

 

[kcnalp]

When you don't give your understanding of it it is. You misunderstand the passage thus you are not quoting God.

Do you read your posts? How am I "misunderstanding" what I simply quote? Oh my! I didn't even need to explain it. You understood and disagreed with the Scripture.

 

[Butch5]

ha well i guess you are not alone lol
so, as im not sure where i lost you, Adam and Eve died spiritually, right, and
he who says that he knows anything does not yet know it as he ought
.

he said, with overwhelming confidence
how not?

No, Adam and Eve did not die spiritually.

 

[Butch5]

Are you under the Law of Moses? Have you never heard of the New Covenant?

Hebrews 8:13 (NKJV)
13 In that He says, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete.

Have you read the Bible?

As I said, if you understood exegesis you'd realize how ridiculous your statement is

 

[Butch5]

Do you read your posts? How am I "misunderstanding" what I simply quote? Oh my! I didn't even need to explain it. You understood and disagreed with the Scripture.

It's called context. You posted it in response to what I said. Posting it in response to what I said shows that you don't understand the passage

 

[kcnalp]

No, Adan and Eve did not die spiritually.

Genesis 2:17 (NKJV)
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.

 

[kcnalp]

It's called context. You posted it in response to what I said. Posting it in response to what I said shows that you don't understand the passage

Oh my goodness!!!

 

[Butch5]

Genesis 2:17 (NKJV)
17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.

As usual you post a passage that says nothing about what is claimed. There's nothing in that passage that says anyone died spiritually. Maybe some lessons in exegesis.

 

[kcnalp]

As usual you post a passage that says nothing about what is claimed. There's nothing in that passage that says anyone died spiritually. Maybe some lessons in exegesis.

It was exactly as you claimed. What are your qualifications for teaching us "exegesis"?

 

[kcnalp]

Kenneth Copeland has gotten filthy rich teaching that Jesus died spiritually, became a sinner!

 

[bbyrd009]

No, Adam and Eve did not die spiritually.

ah ok, ty

As I said, if you understood exegesis you'd realize how ridiculous your statement is

gee, i wonder what eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge is, huh?
anyway, ntmy, and i guess you are in the right place!

It's called context. You posted it in response to what I said. Posting it in response to what I said shows that you don't understand the passage

talk about losing me lol

 

[Truther]

...I really don't know what just happened???

I told you(I think it was you...lol), that we can only seek alternative meanings when it is impossible to understand the first glance meaning.

This is what I mean.

You know what I mean?

Okay, so to keep the Bible the Bible, we must seek to vindicate what we read per literal meanings, so we don't end up starting new religions.

 

[Truther]

well i dunno if humans can forgive Hitler, but i suggest that Yah has
my arg would be that Hitler did not wield his power in a vacuum, was duly elected by the ppl, etc

as to the theologian's pov of a place called heaven, imo the Bible makes many statements that contradict him,
the kingdom of heaven is within you,
There is only One Immortal, Who lives in unapproachable light,
even
you and your sons will be here with me
we do not yet know what we will become,
et al

Did Hitler get baptized with the Holy Ghost and baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of his sins in the bunker in Berlin before shooting Eva and himself?

 

[Truther]

So what's your point? Are you saying there's a contradiction? I've stated repeatedly that aion does mean forever. If you actually engaged you wouldn't continue to post passage that speak if forever. It doesn't mean forever.

No.

Your thinking is contradictory.

It is your job to make the scripture in Rev work, not go away.

 

[Truther]

Sorry bit thos has nothing to do with what I said. Your doctrine impugns Gods character. God said, 'the soul that sins shall die'. Your doctrine says the soul that sins shall burn in eternal conscious torment. I think God has a better handle on it than you

so, we can brutalize and kill our fellow humans and God will not eternally punish us?

Is the Vegas shooter in eternal rest now?

 

[Brakelite]

ok, ty

You're welcome. Always ready and willing to share my incontestable, irrefutable, indisputable and infallible opinion.

 

[Brakelite]

so, we can brutalize and kill our fellow humans and God will not eternally punish us?

Is the Vegas shooter in eternal rest now?

The wages of sin is eternal tor.... No wait...Death.

 

[Brakelite]

The wages of sin is eternal tor.... No wait...Death.

No watch "truther' redefine death to mean immortal. Amazing the lengths proffessing Christians go to in order to blaspheme the character of God and his word.

 

[Truther]

The wages of sin is eternal tor.... No wait...Death.

So, killling about 50 people and maiming hundreds more with a "machine gun", and zero eternal consequences?

God is just?

 

[Truther]

No watch "truther' redefine death to mean immortal. Amazing the lengths proffessing Christians go to in order to blaspheme the character of God and his word.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


The "dead" are made "undead".