Is the messiah the father himself in flesh?

[sho]

Where did you gain your knowledge of my Bible study history and practice?

Much love!

If you believe in the trinity i know your bible study history exactly.

 

[marks]

If you believe in the trinity i know your bible study history exactly.

OK then.

Maybe you'd like to describe it for me?

 

[sho]

Maybe you'd like to describe it for me?

In one word: pagan

 

[marks]

In one word: pagan

Well you're off to a flying start!



I won't be responding to you after this.

Much love!

 

[sho]

Start to believe in one God. In one God who is the holy spirit(father) and in his image(Yeshua).

 

[ChristisGod]

Start to believe in one God. In one God who is the holy spirit(father) and in his image(Yeshua).

which is the broad road that leads to destruction.

 

[sho]

Well you're off to a flying start!



I won't be responding to you after this.

Much love!

Why do you hate to believe in one God?

Much love!

 

[sho]

which is the broad road that leads to destruction.

We will see.

 

[ChristisGod]

We will see.

oh its a fact you can take that to the bank as its as good as gold.

 

[sho]

@Christophany
You said the father is spirit, but at the same time you say the father is not the HOLY spirit. How does it work? Do we have two different spirits? But I thought God is only one and therefore only one spirit, what do you say?

 

[sho]

oh its a fact you can take that to the bank as its as good as gold.

Let's wait. We will see who will get the wrath of God. This will be the best day.

 

[ChristisGod]

@Christophany
You said the father is spirit, but at the same time you say the father is not the HOLY spirit. How does it work? Do we have to different spirits? But I thought God is only one and therefore only one spirit, what do you say?

it works because the FATHER is not once called the Holy Spirit in the bible. Read and believe Jesus words in John 14-17. The problem is you deny Jesus and His words. Those who deny Him the Father will also deny.

hope this helps !!!

 

[sho]

it works because the FATHER is not once called the Holy Spirit in the bible.

But you confirmed the father is spirit. And I think you would confirm too that the father is holy. So the father is SPIRIT and HOLY.
If we now count one and one together then the Father is the Holy Spirit.

 

[ChristisGod]

Let's wait. We will see who will get the wrath of God. This will be the best day.

it will be your worst nightmare unless you REPENT and confess Jesus is YHWH( Lord) Romans 10:13 cf Joel 2:32

Joel 2:32
32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Will be delivered;
For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
There will be those who escape,
As the Lord has said,
Even among the survivors whom the Lord calls.

Here we see Paul quote this OT passage about YHWH and apply it to Jesus who is the one and only Lord according to the N.T.

Rom 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

So a person must confess Jesus is YHWH(Lord) to be saved. Confess means to agree with so the person confessing Jesus is Lord is in agreement that He is YHWH. Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord ( YHWH) will be saved.

So the question is will you REPENT and BELIEVE Jesus is YHWH and confess that TRUTH and submit to Him like Thomas did and worship Him as your LORD and GOD ?

No confession=no salvation.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

But you confirmed the father is spirit. And I think you would confirm too that the father is holy. So the father is SPIRIT and HOLY.
If we now count one and one together then the Father is the Holy Spirit.

you like to make things up with my words just like you do with the bible.

 

[sho]

it will be your worst nightmare unless you REPENT and confess Jesus is YHWH( Lord) Romans 10:13 cf Joel 2:32

Joel 2:32
32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the Lord
Will be delivered;
For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
There will be those who escape,
As the Lord has said,
Even among the survivors whom the Lord calls.

Here we see Paul quote this OT passage about YHWH and apply it to Jesus who is the one and only Lord according to the N.T.

Rom 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

So a person must confess Jesus is YHWH(Lord) to be saved. Confess means to agree with so the person confessing Jesus is Lord is in agreement that He is YHWH. Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord ( YHWH) will be saved.

So the question is will you REPENT and BELIEVE Jesus is YHWH and confess that TRUTH and submit to Him like Thomas did and worship Him as your LORD and GOD ?

No confession=no salvation.

hope this helps !!!

I believe Yeshua is YHWH in flesh, but you don't believe it. You believe Yeshua is just another person who became flesh and not the father himself.

 

[Heart2Soul]

But you confirmed the father is spirit. And I think you would confirm too that the father is holy. So the father is SPIRIT and HOLY.
If we now count one and one together then the Father is the Holy Spirit.

Scripture says that He is Spirit and they who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth.
We also are spirit in a flesh body. We are born again of His spirit.
I prayed about the oneness doctrine....it's possible but very unlikely.
Jesus became sin who knew no sin....Yahweh is Holy and no sin can dwell in Him....the Holy Spirit is the comforter, the Spirit of Truth who speaks to us what the Father tells Him, the one who imparts gifts and fruits and wisdom etc.
And when He says He loves us so much that He gave His only begotten Son to die for us....that's like the ultimate sacrifice.
If He is only sacrificing Himself in another form it seems to take away from the ultimate sacrifice.
So that's my belief even after seeking His truth about it.

 

[Waiting on him]

Well you're off to a flying start!



I won't be responding to you after this.

Much love!

Well, I’ve learned much from your posts here at CF, your a great contributor in my opinion.

 

[Waiting on him]

In one word: pagan

The power of life and death is in the tongue.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

First thanks for the reply, second, your First ERROR of the Day, #1. God name is Never been, or ever had been Jehovah, you worldy men lable that false name on god.

but to business at hand, your second ERROR of the DAY, you said, "Two people declared they are the first and last and besides "me" there is no God". here is your ERROR, not two people said this, LOL, only one person, NOT TWO PEOPLE... the only One "PERSON" who said this is the "ALMIGHTY", Godhimself... "JESUS, who is LORD, all cap, and Lord, diversified in flesh.

so no, not two people, (trying to slide a second ... "Person" in there, under the disguised of the cover of the term PEOPLE... LOL. what did the scriptures say? 2 Corinthians 2:11 "Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices."


well Ronald has confirmed what I been saying before, "Those three have different roles"

different "ROLES?", yes, that's modelism in REVERSE" I knew it would come out sonner or later, modelism in REVERSE.


REMEMBER, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Well 101g it is you I am arguing with, for Scripture does not agree with you.

Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Seeing as God created grammar, and inspired the rules of grammar so when we write and speak we can understand what He is trying to say! God knows this and He inspired th e writer to unambiguously show- that two Yahwehs are speaking ( I believe this is closer to accurate)

John 20:17
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Jesus here did not say He was returning to a part of HIs "diversified self" but to a different person! Sorry but you shouldn't argue with Scripture!

No matter what you say- you are simply a tri-modalist with a different dress and new names for how you call God.