Are We Non Israelites Heading For Condemnation?

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judd

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supposing Jesus Christ did not come, are we non Israelites heading for condemnation? Were we neglected by our CREATOR? Is Almighty God the GOD of the Israelites only? sometimes I cry and think that Almighty God has neglected me and our people. I read this mathew 15 vs 24 and so on and i was sad. brb.
 

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(Act 11:7) And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.

(Act 11:8) But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.

(Act 11:9) But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

(Act 11:10) And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.

(Act 11:11) And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.

(Act 11:12) And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:

(Act 11:13) And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;

(Act 11:14) Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.

(Act 11:15) And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

(Act 11:16) Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

(Act 11:17) Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

(Act 11:18) When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

Nothing to worry abou, you came to Christ under grace, no law to worry about.

In His Love
 

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The gentiles have always been part of God's plan.

[sup]5[/sup]And now the LORD says,
he who formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob back to him;
and that Israel might be gathered to him—
for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD, and my God has become my strength—
[sup]6[/sup]he says:"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."

Isaiah 49:5,6
 

Streetsweeper

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And I forgot this (I just looked up the reference from Isaiah 49):

[sup]1[/sup]Now the LORD said to Abram, "Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. [sup]2[/sup]And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. [sup]3[/sup]I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
Genesis 12:1-3
 

judd

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Nothing to worry abou, you came to Christ under grace, no law to worry about.

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No law? I don't agree with that.
 

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"supposing Jesus Christ did not come..."


-- I quit reading after that. There is nothing to gain from such conjecture.
 

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I am no english man. you can correct my english. thanks

Your English is fine, it is your logic that is flawed.

There is no point in 'supposing' something didn't happen....WHEN IT DID.

From this point on, the valid discussion is to examine what has happened BECAUSE Jesus DID come.

Anything else is just rubbish.
 

Foreigner

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I am no english man. you can correct my english. thanks


-- Your English is not the issue. Your conjecture is.

Jesus did come and He is coming again.

Why bother pondering anything different?

Like saying, "What would have happened if Lincoln had NOT been shot?"

After the discussion is over, what exactly has been gained...by anyone?
 

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supposing Jesus Christ did not come, are we non Israelites heading for condemnation? Were we neglected by our CREATOR? Is Almighty God the GOD of the Israelites only? sometimes I cry and think that Almighty God has neglected me and our people. I read this mathew 15 vs 24 and so on and i was sad. brb.


If Jesus had not come, had not fulfilled the law and the covenant that Israel entered into with their lips, they would still be "not a people" unto Him. They would be in the same boat as you and I, death ruling non-stop over mankind, and separated by their sins and adulteries.

As it is, their rejection of Him when He did show up is going to be very costly for them. It already has cost them dearly, holocausts, the dispersion, conflicts, and on and on the list of the Jewish plight goes.

This time of mercy and election out of the nations of a body for His Son is all that is happening in the earth. When grace and mercy is removed, the power that is keeping the Lawless one off the scene, then the real trouble for the humble and faithful Jew will begin. The apostate Jew will not care, being in bed with the Harlot. Of those that endure until the end of those days, which would not be shortened of its judgments and wrath were it not for the elect of Israel, they shall be made pillars in the earthly reign of Christ.

Our expectation and faith is celestial, heavenly; our lot will never be on the earth. We are to be changed, transformed into the image of His Beloved Son, possessing spirit bodies honed and prepared before the Day of the Lord comes, when grace and mercy and faith and the Body will be removed from the earth, that judgment in righteousness may proceed from the throne of the Father and the Son.

Lot may not have been part of the promise, but the Abraham redeemed him from the fate of Sodom through intercession. So too we will escape wrath, for we have not been appointed unto wrath but unto salvation in Christ. 1Th 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

1Th 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

1Th 5:10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

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