Peter identifies Jesus as our God and Savior

[101G]

@DNB, what do your hermeneutics, not the standard hermeneutic, but your hermeneutics say about 1 Timothy 6:14 - 16? well cain't wait to hear that excuse.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[DNB]

error, better know as a lie. supportive scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

he JESUS, the ordinal FIRST was "Alone", and "By himself". do you know what "alone", and "by oneself" means?

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PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Leave Jesus alone, quit bastardizing him into some incomprehensible mutation hybrid syncretistic idiocracy. God was not mocked, beaten, ridiculed, abused and murdered by His own creation.

 

[DNB]

then explain 1 Timothy 6:14 - 16?

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

2 different entities, sharing the same titles in very particular contexts, respectively.

 

[DNB]

Maybe because you avoid Scripture like plague?

Nah, I think I'll stay and keep quoting God of the Bible. Why are you here?

You need to answer my question first - you tried to be evasive, it didn't fly.

 

[kcnalp]

Your own personal misunderstanding. Now, go away.

Your opinions do not overrule God of the Bible. You want me to go because I choose the Bible over your opinions?

 

[kcnalp]

You need to answer my question first - you tried to be evasive, it didn't fly.

Repeat your question please.

 

[101G]

Leave Jesus alone, quit bastardizing him into some incomprehensible mutation hybrid syncretistic idiocracy. God was not mocked, beaten, ridiculed, abused and murdered by His own creation.

that's YOU, you have no scripture, only rhetorical comments, no reprovinhg scripture, as I have said before, if you just want to talk, that's what facebook and tweeter is for.

you're nothing but as Jud said, Jude 1:12 "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;"
Jude 1:13 "Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever."

2 different entities, sharing the same titles in very particular contexts, respectively.

scripture for that, book chapter and verse please...

if you cannot produce scropture, go to facebook and tweeter... .. YIKES!

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You miss the BIG SPIRITUAL PICTURE.
God is Spirit.
Earthly men are People/Person's.

God is Ultimate Light/ Supreme POWER.

You have the power to open your mouth, send your words out of your mouth...
Make your words appear in ink on paper.
Make your words be heard in Ears.
(Are your SENT out words NOT still your words, still you?)
Men come to this forum, with pseudo Names.
They are Giving a NAME of their choosing to their own Words.

You think God not Powerful enough to Send His Word out of His Mouth and Make His Word APPEAR in A BODY God Prepared....and that Body BE IN THE "LIKENESS" as an Earthly man?

Because Scripture teaches, THAT ^ is exactly what God Did! God gave Him a Name, gave Him Titles, gave Him things to Accomplish...

Gods Word is God, inasmuch as your word is you.

Glory to God,
Taken

No you and others who are trying to say Jesus and God is the same person are the ones who miss The Big Spiritual Picture. You and others who reason as you do are denying God has an Only Begotten Son. People will always be in their sins if they believe Jesus and God are the same person, why, cause that means they believe God is the person who is the word that became human and they don't believe that the Only Begotten Son is the word that became human. If anyone denies that God has an Only Begotten Son who is the word and became human will always be in their sins.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I am not One with other men.
I am, and every other Converted man, are IN Christ Jesus' Risen Body. Christ Jesus is the common Body, not men and men.

Why are you talking Prayer?
John 10 is not about Prayer.
Stay in Context.

John 10: three verses later Tell you who heard Jesus....what exactly they knew what Jesus meant, when Jesus said "I am my father are one"....and what the did Because Jesus said that!

John 10:
[33] The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Everyone SAW Jesus as a man....DUH, that is Exactly the "fashion" God SENT His Word!

While All men SAW a man:
The Difference is:
•Some men ONLY "knew" Jesus "AS" a man...
•Some men still ONLY "KNOW" Jesus "AS" a man.
•And other men, Learned TO "KNOW" Jesus "IS" the all knowing, all powerful,
Lord God Almighty.

You really don't know scripture, do you?

 

[kcnalp]

No you and others who are trying to say Jesus and God is the same person are the ones who miss The Big Spiritual Picture.

Kingdom Hall has deceived you. That's why you avoid Scripture.
John 1:1-4 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

You and others who reason as you do are denying God has an Only Begotten Son. People will always be in their sins if they believe Jesus and God are the same person, why, cause that means they believe God is the person who is the word that became human and they don't believe that the Only Begotten Son is the word that became human. If anyone denies that God has an Only Begotten Son who is the word and became human will always be in their sins.

No Scripture? No surprise!

 

[kcnalp]

You really don't know scripture, do you?

Irony? You avoid Scripture like plague!

 

[101G]

No you and others who are trying to say Jesus and God is the same person are the ones who miss The Big Spiritual Picture. You and others who reason as you do are denying God has an Only Begotten Son.

ok Barney, what was begotten, flesh or Spirit?

book chapter and verse please.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[bbyrd009]

but isn't that the point of the Gospel, learn and preach what the narrow path is?

dont think so, no; "preach" has a diff meaning than "proclaim" i guess

thus, who is it, has the Bible not declared the boundaries?

ha well i guess it all depends which parts you choose to accept/Quote maybe

best wishes

 

[amigo de christo]

I will admit for sure that Jesus relied upon the Father during His earthly ministry that is a given since Jesus is a man and had to experience what it was like to be a man with dependence upon the Father, temptation, growing in wisdom and knowledge as a man etc........ We have no differences when it comes to Jesus being a man as far a I'm aware of DNB.

Our differences are on His Deity in scripture. And as a trinitarian I believe Jesus is both fully man(a human, a human nature) and fully God( having the nature of God-a Divine nature). Hence there are 2 natures in Christ. I have a thread on that topic from Colossians 2:9.

hope this helps !!!

That , and take a peek at the first letter paul wrote to timothy . Read chapter three verse sixteen .
Great is the mystery of godliness . GOD was MANIFEST in the FLESH .......................yep . NOW HANDS UP AND PRAISE THE GLORIOUS LORD >

 

[Taken]

No you and others who are trying to say Jesus and God is the same person ...

You are in Error. I did NOT try to say that.

Lest me MADE it Clear for you.
People are Created men From the Dust of the Earth, (BY GOD)

God DID NOT Create Himself.
God is Not Created.
God IS WITHOUT Beginning.
It is Gods CREATION that Has. Beginning!

God IN Heaven OR God ON Earth...
IS God.
God in Heaven WHILE God IS ON Earth...
IS God
Period.

It does NOT Matter WHERE God IS...
Heaven, Earth, Hell, Sky, In a Man, Out of a Man...God Does NOT Change.

It does NOT matter, By which NAME, God IS Scripturally Called,
OR
BY Which TITLE, God IS Scripturally Called...
God IS God...God Does NOT Change.
OR
BY Which DESCRIPTION, God is Scripturally Called...
God IS God...God Does NOT Change.

El, I am, JAH, Jehovah, Yahweh, LORD, Lord, God, Father, Son, Light, Wisdom, Power, Mighty, Almighty, Spirit, Annointed, Man, Holy, Sinless, Word, King, Jesus, Christ, Everlasting,
Without Beginning, without Ending, Seen, Unseen, Heard, Unheard, ON and ON and ON...
One Same "Lord God Almighty"...
God Does NOT Change!

You are the Created- God "KNOWS"
The WHOLE, body, soul, spirit "OF" "YOU"
"IF" You DO NO "KNOW" the "WHOLE" "OF"
The "Lord God Almighty"...

You should Study the Scriptures and Discover WHO the "WHOLE" OF "The Lord God Almighty" IS.

Glory To God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

You really don't know scripture, do you?

You really do not know how to ...
Quote what I say...
Disagree...
And provide a Scripture to SHOW the Scripture in Opposition to my Quote...

Responding with snide snarky remarks...
Simply reveals... your own lack of understanding and inability to Scripturally refute what I say.

 

[101G]

2 different entities, sharing the same titles in very particular contexts, respectively.

ERROR, same entitie (diversified), same two titles, supportive scripture, Zechariah 12:10 "And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."

clear example of "diversity" in God. the "me" is the "him" in a diversified state, so you're reproved.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Kingdom Hall has deceived you. That's why you avoid Scripture.
John 1:1-4 (KJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

No Scripture? No surprise!

Those who believe in the Trinity are the ones who deny that it was the Only Begotten Son of God who became human not the kingdom Hall. Those who continue to deny it was the Only Begotten Son of God who became human are the false prophets, not the kingdom Hall.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Irony? You avoid Scripture like plague!

No, that's you.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

ok Barney, what was begotten, flesh or Spirit?

book chapter and verse please.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

No, you're

You are in Error. I did NOT try to say that.

Lest me MADE it Clear for you.
People are Created men From the Dust of the Earth, (BY GOD)

God DID NOT Create Himself.
God is Not Created.
God IS WITHOUT Beginning.
It is Gods CREATION that Has. Beginning!

God IN Heaven OR God ON Earth...
IS God.
God in Heaven WHILE God IS ON Earth...
IS God
Period.

It does NOT Matter WHERE God IS...
Heaven, Earth, Hell, Sky, In a Man, Out of a Man...God Does NOT Change.

It does NOT matter, By which NAME, God IS Scripturally Called,
OR
BY Which TITLE, God IS Scripturally Called...
God IS God...God Does NOT Change.
OR
BY Which DESCRIPTION, God is Scripturally Called...
God IS God...God Does NOT Change.

El, I am, JAH, Jehovah, Yahweh, LORD, Lord, God, Father, Son, Light, Wisdom, Power, Mighty, Almighty, Spirit, Annointed, Man, Holy, Sinless, Word, King, Jesus, Christ, Everlasting,
Without Beginning, without Ending, Seen, Unseen, Heard, Unheard, ON and ON and ON...
One Same "Lord God Almighty"...
God Does NOT Change!

You are the Created- God "KNOWS"
The WHOLE, body, soul, spirit "OF" "YOU"
"IF" You DO NO "KNOW" the "WHOLE" "OF"
The "Lord God Almighty"...

You should Study the Scriptures and Discover WHO the "WHOLE" OF "The Lord God Almighty" IS.

Glory To God,
Taken

Ok, to be more specific, those who believe in the Trinity are trying to teach that Jesus and God are the same person. I also never said God was created, no matter how much anyone tries to twist what I say, that I did.