Inevitably Two Masters

[Ziggy]

Paul made tents so he wouldn't be a burden to the church.
But when he needed them they were there.
So he worked in the world and reaped from in the church.
He would take the overflow of charititable gifts from some and give to those that are lacking.
And they had all things in common..

just thinking
Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Paul made tents so he wouldn't be a burden to the church.
But when he needed them they were there.
So he worked in the world and reaped from in the church.
He would take the overflow of charititable gifts from some and give to those that are lacking.
And they had all things in common..

just thinking
Hugs

This is what happens when you post before you read other's thinking.. lol
Hugs

 

[Bartholomew Jones]

@Bartholomew Jones You were talking about textual information before and after, so I was simply reminded of a saying about context...

But what do you mean by "co-text?"

 

[Bartholomew Jones]

Luk 16:9 And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
Luk 16:10 He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.
Luk 16:11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
Luk 16:12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
Luk 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

When you fail... have your money save you, or buy yourself out..
you make friends with unrighteousness, you can live with them in their destination..

I hear sarcasm..

Hugs

I think when you've truly won a friend, it's confirmation you've won their soul. Also to do so, you must slight the value of money.

 

[Ziggy]

Who's benefit was Jesus saying it for? Right after this saying:

Luk 16:14 And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and they derided him.
Luk 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

I think he was rebuking them as unrighteous stewards.
Because they was covetous. And justified stealing to make themselves comfortable for a rainy day.. so to speak.

Hugs

 

[Bartholomew Jones]

So the parable is concerning Israel and they are the stewards of Jerusalem or the Kingdom of God.
They are abusing their authority by treating their citizens badly.
They are going to lose that authority and are looking for a way to save their arse.
So they go to the world and make a deal, so in the end when they get thrown out they have a place to go.

They refuse to ask for forgiveness and are going to try to "work" their way out of debt.

So he shows a little mercy to the one's who owe him..
meaning the Lord will show him little mercy.
If he had forgiven them their debts... then his debt would be forgiven.
Howbeit he will still need to work and work and work.. and never find peace.

Money can't buy you Love.


Wait...
The rich man is the lord...
He has people that owe him debts.
The steward goes out and reduces the debts owed to the lord...

who's losing here... the steward or the lord??

so he know's he's getting kicked out.. no doubt about it.
He's going to make friends in the meantime so he isn't living on the street.

But he just ripped off the boss man again, by reducing the debts owed to him.

what a piece o work..

(I'm sitting here smh.. lol..)

Give me your ears..

Hugs

He's also talking about about being just, and unjust, faithful and unfaithful with the stuff the world values highly. And he's not saying to go buy yourself some friends. But he is saying if you want (to win) a true friend you can depend on like family, money will have to take the back seat.

 

[Ziggy]

So in this parable..
You hear, he that is faithful... and I hear he that is unfaithful.
Jesus is speaking to 2 different audiences I think.
And depending on who is listening will hear it as a blessing or a rebuke.
The Pharisees felt guity and they heard the unfaithful as themselves.
Others like the disciples who had no guilt would hear a blessing.

Is there two sides of the same coin here?

Hugs

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Apparently Christ did say we will have to choose servanthood to one of two inevitable masters. You will hate God, and love money. Or, you will be devoted to God, and despise money.

You will have two masters, despising one (context); otherwise hating one. You can't be a (household) servant to the two.

Luke 16:13

never have fully understood money. The word says the love or lust of it is the root of all evil. Was this ‘root of all evil’ in the garden then, the temptation of vanity and the bondage of corruption? Also have never fully understood this spirit of mammon Mammon /ˈmæmən/ in the New Testament of the Bible is commonly thought to mean money, material wealth, or any entity that promises wealth, and is associated with the greedy pursuit of gain.

James 4:1-4 From where (did)come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? [2] Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not. [3] Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. [4] Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

could it be that friendship with the spirit of mammon (the greedy pursuit of gain) is the root of vanity and corruption...that you might ‘devour’ in on your own lust. He said to seek first the Kingdom of God ...then told those devouring “you seek to kill Me.” You seek to kill Me. Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain:

The deceitfulness of riches: Luke 12:19-21 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. [20] But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? [21] So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.
^there is something beautiful in the above (imo), in ‘I know what I will do...I will tear down my barn and build a greater barn to bestow all my fruits’ but ‘Thou fool’ unless God builds ‘raises up’ the ‘greater’ garner and displays His fruit (Galatians 5:22-23 the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance...)...whose children do those things (treasure) (fruits) laid up for, belong to?

struggled for a while with who is ‘I will tear down my barn and build a greater one to bestow my fruits’ ... He told them ‘I tell you if you tear this body down then I will raise it up again’ Greater. And will display the fruit of the Spirit ...love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance...

point is unless God builds the ‘greater’ then ‘For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?’ Luke 9:25

1 Corinthians 3:19-23 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness. [20] And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain. [21] Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours; [22] Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours; [23] And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

2 Corinthians 6:10 As sorrowful, yet alway rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

Only if God is the builder to display His fruits...is there any treasure laid up and kept for the children.


2 Corinthians 12:14 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

 

[Bartholomew Jones]

So the parable is concerning Israel and they are the stewards of Jerusalem or the Kingdom of God.
They are abusing their authority by treating their citizens badly.
They are going to lose that authority and are looking for a way to save their arse.
So they go to the world and make a deal, so in the end when they get thrown out they have a place to go.

They refuse to ask for forgiveness and are going to try to "work" their way out of debt.

So he shows a little mercy to the one's who owe him..
meaning the Lord will show him little mercy.
If he had forgiven them their debts... then his debt would be forgiven.
Howbeit he will still need to work and work and work.. and never find peace.

Money can't buy you Love.


Wait...
The rich man is the lord...
He has people that owe him debts.
The steward goes out and reduces the debts owed to the lord...

who's losing here... the steward or the lord??

so he know's he's getting kicked out.. no doubt about it.
He's going to make friends in the meantime so he isn't living on the street.

But he just ripped off the boss man again, by reducing the debts owed to him.

what a piece o work..

(I'm sitting here smh.. lol..)

Give me your ears..

Hugs

Also, he's comparing the generations, the accountings, the deeds, of the world to those of the "ecclesia:" community, either of Hebrews or of Christians. And he's saying that the worldliest will deal shrewdly, dishonestly; whereas God's man will deal friendly.

 

[DPMartin]

Apparently Christ did say we will have to choose servanthood to one of two inevitable masters. You will hate God, and love money. Or, you will be devoted to God, and despise money.

You will have two masters, despising one (context); otherwise hating one. You can't be a (household) servant to the two.

Luke 16:13

well mammon maybe what the Lord mentions in His parable as heart2soul posted but two masters can be anything served, that which you are willing to do things for, such as money, or favor.

thing is if you refuse to do things for money you will starve in a capitalist society and many other societies unless you have means to sustain your well being without employment. so it looks like you are saying anyone willing to do things for money are servants of evil and not of God.

 

[Ziggy]

So in Eden.. Adam and Eve have everything to eat.
But Eve covets this fruit. But then shares it with Adam.
Did Adam covet also but let Eve take the blame?
Either way covetousness led to death. Because it didn't belong to them.
They stole it. And lied about stealing, and then blamed a snake for them stealing..

talk about passing the buck...

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

1Ti 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

Mic 2:1 Woe to them that devise iniquity, and work evil upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.
Mic 2:2 And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

Mar 12:38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,
Mar 12:39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts:
Mar 12:40 Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.

Mar 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
Mar 12:42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
Mar 12:43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
Mar 12:44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

Pray for me...
It's going to cost you..

Thou shalt not covet.

Act 3:1 Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour.
Act 3:2 And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;
Act 3:3 Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms.
Act 3:4 And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.
Act 3:5 And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.
Act 3:6 Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
Act 3:7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
Act 3:8 And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.
Act 3:9 And all the people saw him walking and praising God:
Act 3:10 And they knew that it was he which sat for alms at the Beautiful gate of the temple: and they were filled with wonder and amazement at that which had happened unto him.

alms: mercy, pity
esp. as exhibited in giving alms, charity
the benefaction itself, a donation to the poor, alms

Thank You

Hugs

Miss your exploration of words. There is one I’ve been wanting to ask your help with. Maybe there is nothing to it ...but those swine choked have been on my mind for several nights. Way before this topic. But consider ‘the deceitfulness of riches, and the lust of other things enter in’ choke ..with ‘and they ran violently down a steep hill and were drowned’. Mark 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

Mark 5:8,10-15 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. [10] And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. [11] Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. [12] And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. [13] And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea. [14] And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. [15] And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

Luke 8:33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.

Luke 5:1 And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret,
Mark 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.


Gennesaret,
Topical Bible: Gennesaret

^the above being the only thing I could find ...what does the word mean to you? What is this lake? Is it the same lake the fishermen stood by mending their nets? is it the same lake here in Luke 8:23 But as they sailed he fell asleep: and there came down a storm of wind on the lake; and they were filled with water, and were in jeopardy.

Luke 8:14-15 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection. [15] But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.

I struggle with making sense so if you are not interested because you do not see any connection, I’ll understand. Mostly only asking if you have any input on Gennesaret,

 

[Ziggy]

Gennesaret = "a harp"
a lake also called the sea of Galilee or the sea of Tiberias The lake 12 by 7 miles (20 by 11 km) and 700 feet (210 m) below the Mediterranean Sea.
a very lovely and fertile region on the Sea of Galilee.

fat comes to mind.. rich..

harp??

Hebrew: Chinneroth or Cinneroth or Chinnereth = "harps"
a town and district in Naphtali near the Sea of Galilee

There is a war between Asa king of Judah. He tore down all the idols and what have you walking rightly before the Lord.
And then there is a Baasha king of Israel . the north against the south.. all these civil wars.. enough already..
1Kings chapter 15.
This is where this lake is in Cinneroth.. says perhaps it is the shape of a harp..??
But there lots of money involved.. always..

1Ki 15:16 And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days.
1Ki 15:17 And Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah, and built Ramah, that he might not suffer any to go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.
1Ki 15:18 Then Asa took all the silver and the gold that were left in the treasures of the house of the LORD, and the treasures of the king's house, and delivered them into the hand of his servants: and king Asa sent them to Benhadad, the son of Tabrimon, the son of Hezion, king of Syria, that dwelt at Damascus, saying,
1Ki 15:19 There is a league between me and thee, and between my father and thy father: behold, I have sent unto thee a present of silver and gold; come and break thy league with Baasha king of Israel, that he may depart from me.
1Ki 15:20 So Benhadad hearkened unto king Asa, and sent the captains of the hosts which he had against the cities of Israel, and smote Ijon, and Dan, and Abelbethmaachah, and all Cinneroth, with all the land of Naphtali.
1Ki 15:21 And it came to pass, when Baasha heard thereof, that he left off building of Ramah, and dwelt in Tirzah.
1Ki 15:22 Then king Asa made a proclamation throughout all Judah; none was exempted: and they took away the stones of Ramah, and the timber thereof, wherewith Baasha had builded; and king Asa built with them Geba of Benjamin, and Mizpah.
1Ki 15:23 The rest of all the acts of Asa, and all his might, and all that he did, and the cities which he built, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah? Nevertheless in the time of his old age he was diseased in his feet.
1Ki 15:24 And Asa slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Jehoshaphat his son reigned in his stead.

I think that kind of interesting seeing you don't eat swine because they don't chew the cud.
Lev 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
So Asa got diseased feet.

Was it blood money that Asa used the Lord's treasury to give to the king of Syria to take out the King of Israel?
See they didn't consult the Lord to fight the war for them.. he created a conspiracy..
So is this swine, choking in the lake.. have to do with blood money and conspiracy?
What are they doing with swine anyways if they are unclean??

I know.. it's in Ezekiel I think.. in the temple doing abominable things..
we won't talk about it... shh

Psa 137:2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
Eze 26:13 And I will cause the noise of thy songs to cease; and the sound of thy harps shall be no more heard.

I don't know.. just looking..
Hugs

 

[VictoryinJesus]

@Ziggy
Matthew 11:9-12 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. [10] For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. [11] Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. [12] And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Matthew 11:12 Lexicon: "From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.

A violent man...no man could tame:
Mark 5:4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

and every man presses into it:
Luke 5:1 And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret

‘...the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.’ About a violent man, no man could tame...Matthew 8:31-32 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. [32] And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

Why does the name of the county vary? ‘Gadarenes’ and ‘Gergesenes’ Luke 8:26 And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee.
Matthew 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

Then not one man but two ‘violent’ so that no man might pass by that way?

Gadarenes, without control; headlong. Word origin. after the Gadarene swine (Luke 8:26-39) that ran into the sea after demons possessed them... https://biblehub.com/topical/g/gadarenes.htm

Mark 5:1 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Gennesaret = "a harp"
a lake also called the sea of Galilee or the sea of Tiberias The lake 12 by 7 miles (20 by 11 km) and 700 feet (210 m) below the Mediterranean Sea.
a very lovely and fertile region on the Sea of Galilee.

fat comes to mind.. rich..

harp??

Hebrew: Chinneroth or Cinneroth or Chinnereth = "harps"
a town and district in Naphtali near the Sea of Galilee

There is a war between Asa king of Judah. He tore down all the idols and what have you walking rightly before the Lord.
And then there is a Baasha king of Israel . the north against the south.. all these civil wars.. enough already..
1Kings chapter 15.
This is where this lake is in Cinneroth.. says perhaps it is the shape of a harp..??
But there lots of money involved.. always..

1Ki 15:16 And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days.
1Ki 15:17 And Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah, and built Ramah, that he might not suffer any to go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.
1Ki 15:18 Then Asa took all the silver and the gold that were left in the treasures of the house of the LORD, and the treasures of the king's house, and delivered them into the hand of his servants: and king Asa sent them to Benhadad, the son of Tabrimon, the son of Hezion, king of Syria, that dwelt at Damascus, saying,
1Ki 15:19 There is a league between me and thee, and between my father and thy father: behold, I have sent unto thee a present of silver and gold; come and break thy league with Baasha king of Israel, that he may depart from me.
1Ki 15:20 So Benhadad hearkened unto king Asa, and sent the captains of the hosts which he had against the cities of Israel, and smote Ijon, and Dan, and Abelbethmaachah, and all Cinneroth, with all the land of Naphtali.
1Ki 15:21 And it came to pass, when Baasha heard thereof, that he left off building of Ramah, and dwelt in Tirzah.
1Ki 15:22 Then king Asa made a proclamation throughout all Judah; none was exempted: and they took away the stones of Ramah, and the timber thereof, wherewith Baasha had builded; and king Asa built with them Geba of Benjamin, and Mizpah.
1Ki 15:23 The rest of all the acts of Asa, and all his might, and all that he did, and the cities which he built, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah? Nevertheless in the time of his old age he was diseased in his feet.
1Ki 15:24 And Asa slept with his fathers, and was buried with his fathers in the city of David his father: and Jehoshaphat his son reigned in his stead.

I think that kind of interesting seeing you don't eat swine because they don't chew the cud.
Lev 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
So Asa got diseased feet.

Was it blood money that Asa used the Lord's treasury to give to the king of Syria to take out the King of Israel?
See they didn't consult the Lord to fight the war for them.. he created a conspiracy..
So is this swine, choking in the lake.. have to do with blood money and conspiracy?
What are they doing with swine anyways if they are unclean??

I know.. it's in Ezekiel I think.. in the temple doing abominable things..
we won't talk about it... shh

Psa 137:2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
Eze 26:13 And I will cause the noise of thy songs to cease; and the sound of thy harps shall be no more heard.

I don't know.. just looking..
Hugs

thank you.

 

[Ziggy]

@Ziggy
Matthew 11:9-12 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet. [10] For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. [11] Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. [12] And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Matthew 11:12 Lexicon: "From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.

A violent man...no man could tame:
Mark 5:4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.

and every man presses into it:
Luke 5:1 And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret

‘...the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.’ About a violent man, no man could tame...Matthew 8:31-32 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. [32] And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.

Why does the name of the county vary? ‘Gadarenes’ and ‘Gergesenes’ Luke 8:26 And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes, which is over against Galilee.
Matthew 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

Then not one man but two ‘violent’ so that no man might pass by that way?

Gadarenes, without control; headlong. Word origin. after the Gadarene swine (Luke 8:26-39) that ran into the sea after demons possessed them... https://biblehub.com/topical/g/gadarenes.htm

Mark 5:1 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.

Maybe Asa and Baasha were still fighting..

Hugs

 

[Ziggy]

Then not one man but two ‘violent’ so that no man might pass by that way?

1Ki 15:17 And Baasha king of Israel went up against Judah, and built Ramah, that he might not suffer any to go out or come in to Asa king of Judah.

Everybody always putting obstacles in the way to the Door..

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Gadarenes, without control; headlong.

@Ziggy Gadarenes, without control; headlong ...has me considering Mark 5:3-6 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: [4] Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. [5] And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. [6] But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

Acts 1:16-19 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. [17] For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. [18] Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. [19] And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.


John 12:4-6 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him, [5] Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor? [6] This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief...maybe still on topic?

 

[Ziggy]

what a visual.. ugh..

all for the love of money

 

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Gadarenes, without control; headlong ...has me considering Mark 5:3-6 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: [4] Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. [5] And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. [6] But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,

So I'm working on another study about Isaac and Ishmael.. and Ishmael is a wildman..
yep.. among the dead... chained in bondage always cutting himself with the "stones"
By Grace are ye saved by faith.. and not of yourselves. it is a gift of God.

Gen 16:11 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD hath heard thy affliction.
Gen 16:12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.

Oh this brings us back to Paul having a face to face with Peter over circumsion and being put in bondage by the law..

So this man see Jesus afar off... that's always like a prophecy.. seeing into the future of a thing..

Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

everything goes around and comes around and ends at the beginning.. LOL
Praise God!
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