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Don’t you think that firing squad is kind of going backwards !?Also it’s difficult to work out if you all agree with this move, which is being taken under the Trump administration. Are you all in favour of this.

I guess it’s difficult to understand coming from a country that did away with the death penalty many many years ago. I am not sure where I really sit on the matter, given the awareness that there are many innocent people who have been proven innocent years after a crime.
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Death penalty is carried out in some states.
Firing squad, electrocution and hanging may seem archaic, but is still used in some states.
And to note...it is typically many years between sentencing and a death penalty being carried out. (Appeals, further discovery of evidence afforded)

Some guilty go free and some innocent of said crimes are imprisoned, everywhere.
There are groups who work diligently on cases that appear a person was not guilty.

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In a state with a state religion such as is demonstrated in Revelation 13, a doctrinal difference becomes treason.
This is a Christian forum yet some are happy to contemplate execution of political enemies. This step is the step of dictators, used in China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia.
In a conversation with Muslims they justified killing apostates because they were traitors to Islam. Many believers in the Muslim world have died because of it. This is why many freak out when religion is weaponised. It is why communism kills so many as normal people become enemies of the state.

Whoever has commited fraud in the election, the failure has been in having too weak an electoral system, not their guilt. You discourage crime by dealing with the causes, and motivating people to live productive lives.

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It is worrying the call for insurrection on the voting issue. It is why such a point needs a robust response which closes the opportunity and captures the will of the people.

A working system expresses the compromises required without conflict, which is why it must work well. This discussion is urgently needed.
 

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This is a Christian forum yet some are happy to contemplate execution of political enemies. This step is the step of dictators, used in China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia.
In a conversation with Muslims they justified killing apostates because they were traitors to Islam. Many believers in the Muslim world have died because of it. This is why many freak out when religion is weaponised. It is why communism kills so many as normal people become enemies of the state.

Whoever has commited fraud in the election, the failure has been in having too weak an electoral system, not their guilt. You discourage crime by dealing with the causes, and motivating people to live productive lives.

God bless
I agree with most of what you said, until the shift of responsibility regarding fraud. Those guilty of fraud ought to be prosecuted. Whether it is treason is another matter.
 

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I agree with most of what you said, until the shift of responsibility regarding fraud. Those guilty of fraud ought to be prosecuted. Whether it is treason is another matter.
I believe in justice and prosecution for criminal behaviour. My problem is the belief in creating more prisons does not resolve the social issues and causes.

The election focus is the need for a free and fair process. Using computers seems a step too far without safeguards, which is absurd in today's world, but it costs. Funny how you can spend billions on campaignes yet making the election safe, the minimum.
Why is that?

Maybe a campaign tax is needed?
 

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I believe in justice and prosecution for criminal behaviour. My problem is the belief in creating more prisons does not resolve the social issues and causes.

The election focus is the need for a free and fair process. Using computers seems a step too far without safeguards, which is absurd in today's world, but it costs. Funny how you can spend billions on campaignes yet making the election safe, the minimum.
Why is that?

Maybe a campaign tax is needed?
The current elections fiasco is a travesty. The constant denial of evidence by the MSM is a disgrace and a direct attack on the integrity of the nation. While I'm not a fan of capital punishment, I think I'm the case of the media and it's blatant disregard for truth and honest journalism I would be quite happy to see the demise of those companies responsible. Tear them down, dismantle every media corrosion piece by guilty piece and ban the individuals responsible from ever working in journalism again.
 

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VIDEO: Dominion Worker Allegedly Caught Manipulating Voter Data in Georgia
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An explosive new video has captured what appears to be a Dominion Representative manipulating voter data in Gwinett County, Georgia.
The video was posted online by Ron Watkins, the former administrator of 8kun. In it, it shows a man identified as a representative from Dominion Voting Systems taking data off of a central server via a USB in Gwinett County, Georgia, and then leaving with the USB in his pocket.
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The machine which has the data allegedly taken from it was identified as the Election Management Server, responsible for tabulating the ballots and certifying the results for the whole of Gwinett County. The man is seen taking the data off of the central server on the USB, moving it to an external laptop, manipulating the ballot scans within file explorer, and then leaving the room after distracting people nearby.



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In a second video, a close-up shot of the man’s ID badge was able to be seen, which clearly identifies the man as a representative for Dominion, with his official title being “County Technician.”
 
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Hey, if you're up to it, there three basic elements, -- Timing; Candidates; and Circumstances. So let's start with TIMING:

Are you familiar with the concept proposed by J.R. Church* in his book "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms"? It proposes that this 19th Book of the Bible is prophetic to the Jews for the 1900's, Chapter for year such that: Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State of Israel; Book 19, Chapter 44 = 1944 Holocaust; Book 19, Chapter 91 = 1991 Desert Storm; etc. And for you information, the 1967 "Six Day War" isn't as clearly depicted due to the nearly decade long series of attacks by the Palestinians.

And the more you know about modern Jewish History, the more the Chapters align with the respective events. -- Then if you accept the premise, we can proceed to the second TIMING concept.


* J.R. Church is now deceased, but was the Co-host of the TV Program "Prophecy In The News" with Spearman who is still hosting that same program under a slightly different name. And the Prophetic Psalms concept was actually a result of Viewer response as received by their researcher, a Patricia Berry, who conveyed that concept to J.R. Church and Spearman, whereupon Church wrote the book, -- not of his own Inspiration/Revelation, but as evidenced by his Viewers.
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Thanks for that. I will look into it.
 
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By law they were allowed to start the "WIPE PROCESS" today, the 30th, but a judge placed an order to delay the WIPE until the election challengers had the opportunity to review each voting machine computer record.

Bobby Jo

That may be true but I wouldn't put it past them to wipe the machines anyway. And call it a mistake. They are most likely working hard to cover their tracks. Just like Clinton did with her servers and emails. And the Meuller team did with their stuff
 
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Hey, if you're up to it, there three basic elements, -- Timing; Candidates; and Circumstances. So let's start with TIMING:

Are you familiar with the concept proposed by J.R. Church* in his book "Hidden Prophecies In The Psalms"? It proposes that this 19th Book of the Bible is prophetic to the Jews for the 1900's, Chapter for year such that: Book 19, Chapter 48 = 1948 International Recognition of the State of Israel; Book 19, Chapter 44 = 1944 Holocaust; Book 19, Chapter 91 = 1991 Desert Storm; etc. And for you information, the 1967 "Six Day War" isn't as clearly depicted due to the nearly decade long series of attacks by the Palestinians.

And the more you know about modern Jewish History, the more the Chapters align with the respective events. -- Then if you accept the premise, we can proceed to the second TIMING concept.


* J.R. Church is now deceased, but was the Co-host of the TV Program "Prophecy In The News" with Spearman who is still hosting that same program under a slightly different name. And the Prophetic Psalms concept was actually a result of Viewer response as received by their researcher, a Patricia Berry, who conveyed that concept to J.R. Church and Spearman, whereupon Church wrote the book, -- not of his own Inspiration/Revelation, but as evidenced by his Viewers.
Bobby Jo

Just to be clear are you saying Psalms 2020 is predicting a Trump victory?
 
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The current elections fiasco is a travesty. The constant denial of evidence by the MSM is a disgrace and a direct attack on the integrity of the nation. While I'm not a fan of capital punishment, I think I'm the case of the media and it's blatant disregard for truth and honest journalism I would be quite happy to see the demise of those companies responsible. Tear them down, dismantle every media corrosion piece by guilty piece and ban the individuals responsible from ever working in journalism again.

From my perspective, I agree that the press does get things wrong, puts bias of one sort or another on everything.
But this is what life is. I have learnt that your enemies know your most obvious weaknesses so listen to them. They hate you so will show you areas you need to address that the audience are listening to.

Trump used the lie, exaggeration and taring down opponents constantly, which was new to the PC media. The emotional content maybe right, but the words are destructive in a bad way. Once he made enemies of everyone except his fan base, there is no reason why they should agree with his suggestions of potential fraud as if they are true. In this falsely generated world unfortunately when real fraud is taking place, you incentivise people to ignore you.

And the fraud argument hangs on various logical proofs, which need to be established and put forward before the sensational implications if the scope of the findings are large. Conspiracy nutcases are not going to win the day. The Kraken is also an idiotic slogan, but it gets attention for the wrong reasons. For mass fraud you need failure at signature confirmation level, access to the machines over the internet, ie ethernet enabled machines.

Unfortunately to the general public these two statements are a step too far. Most do not understand a form scanned by a machine can create a count however the programmer desires. So if Dominion update their system, 2 days before launch without 3rd party audited signoff and testing of the routines, you have zero security and integrity. A lot of people will not understand this one point destroys everything, no matter how sincere even the developers are etc. You do not put anything live, unless it is properly tested and quality checked. You do not run a live test in production, which are the actual words used by Dominion employees which demonstrates their total unprofessionalism, and I mean prosecutable unprofessionalism.

35 years ago I met a guy from a supplier who in front of me changed code while installing a system to be rolled out across the country. I pointed out if he made one mistake, it destroyed all the work done, and made the whole exercise worthless. He got very upset that I would question him like this, but I know I have made such mistakes, and only through testing do you know it works, never assuming anything.

So to get action, real response you start here, because everything flows from this. Dominion are an unprofessional operation, out of control with sincere workers, but out of their depth. Contractual obligation should exist to penalise such an operation with signed off protocols how to release upgrades, protect the production environment and separate development from test. The fact they had developers on site to help the operation shows they knew nothing about this, and their culture was totally wrong.

Fraud is the symptom of a flawed approach, by other parties probably, so unwrapping it will take time and care. The political implications hurts everyone, so you need a no fault environment, but also being ruthless to get to the facts. I say this because this particular type of problem crosses so many knowledge boundaries only a few people see the issues clearly.

God bless you
 

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VIDEO: Dominion Worker Allegedly Caught Manipulating Voter Data in Georgia
by National File
An explosive new video has captured what appears to be a Dominion Representative manipulating voter data in Gwinett County, Georgia.
The video was posted online by Ron Watkins, the former administrator of 8kun. In it, it shows a man identified as a representative from Dominion Voting Systems taking data off of a central server via a USB in Gwinett County, Georgia, and then leaving with the USB in his pocket.
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https://t.co/wtUFjZ9aG9?amp=1

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The machine which has the data allegedly taken from it was identified as the Election Management Server, responsible for tabulating the ballots and certifying the results for the whole of Gwinett County. The man is seen taking the data off of the central server on the USB, moving it to an external laptop, manipulating the ballot scans within file explorer, and then leaving the room after distracting people nearby.



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In a second video, a close-up shot of the man’s ID badge was able to be seen, which clearly identifies the man as a representative for Dominion, with his official title being “County Technician.”
Now we understand the Dem’s mask mandates. Dominion needed to hide their people’s identities. They forgot to tell this guy to cover his badge, though. :D
 

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VIDEO: Dominion Worker Allegedly Caught Manipulating Voter Data in Georgia
by National File
An explosive new video has captured what appears to be a Dominion Representative manipulating voter data in Gwinett County, Georgia.
The video was posted online by Ron Watkins, the former administrator of 8kun. In it, it shows a man identified as a representative from Dominion Voting Systems taking data off of a central server via a USB in Gwinett County, Georgia, and then leaving with the USB in his pocket.
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https://t.co/wtUFjZ9aG9?amp=1

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The machine which has the data allegedly taken from it was identified as the Election Management Server, responsible for tabulating the ballots and certifying the results for the whole of Gwinett County. The man is seen taking the data off of the central server on the USB, moving it to an external laptop, manipulating the ballot scans within file explorer, and then leaving the room after distracting people nearby.



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In a second video, a close-up shot of the man’s ID badge was able to be seen, which clearly identifies the man as a representative for Dominion, with his official title being “County Technician.”

Unfortunately this is a flawed argument. The argument should be what is a developer doing amending a production system.
What is a system doing open to usb drives?

Most companies stop USB drive access to employees to stop spurious software being loaded onto machines by anyone.
One colleague I had got freaked out when I put my USB into his laptop to transfer some files, and thats between people who trust each other.

No one should be connecting USB drives to anything. USB drives are vulnerable to so many computer viruses that most virus protection software simply cannot deal with.

Put another way communicating between machines should have been outside the use of USB drives, so separation of responsibilities is clear.
Closed and protected local lan networks work, but you need large legal penalties for failure against those responsible for its integrity.
To put this in perspective, the NSA have all the security etc necessary to run these kind of secure operations.

So how on earth could such a Mikey mouse setup come about with the most sophisticated operations facilities available from the government is possible. If trust is the issue, you put in the right legal and technical frameworks, but not amateur guys with USB sticks.

I hope you understand the bigger picture, and how dysfunctional and absurd this situation actually is.

God bless you
 

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In a state with a state religion such as is demonstrated in Revelation 13, a doctrinal difference becomes treason.
Here the Treason is in the aiding foreign powers to interfere with the election. There is still much that would need to be proven for individuals.
 

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Just to be clear are you saying Psalms 2020 is predicting a Trump victory?
Ummmmmm, noooooooo. -- I'm saying that the Tribulation TIMING is given in the Psalms; and were we stand with respect to History provides a basis for understanding who the Two Witnesses are.

Consider the MURDER of the TWO WITNESSES analogous to arriving at the Indianapolis 500 where there are RACKS of Fresh Tires, versus STACKS of Used Tires. If the former then near the beginning, and if the latter then near the end.

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I vote for public hanging. Less error prone.
High Treason
Killing 6,500 elderly people in nursing homes
Killing over 100,000 people by running a campaign against the medicine that could be taken without tests and delays.
Give them a number and line them up. Throw rotten tomatoes at them as they wait.
 

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Listening to the Michigan Senate oversight Committee....on voting fraud...

I have now heard and seen evidence of massive fraud from several States. The worst State thus far, concerning the actual handling of ballots and the insertion of extra ballots, unaccountable ballots, and the worst chain of custody of these ballots, hands down, is Michigan.

I though the fraud in Pennsylvania, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Georgia was really massive and obvious. Michigan clearly takes the 1st spot....without argument
 
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