No more church gatherings by order of the government.

[Bobby Jo]

... I am content with this... and I don't have a problem following the rules. ...

I agree in following the "rules" which are LEGAL, but not if they're ILLEGAL. And here in the U.S., you cannot be determined to be SICK (Guilt), unless they PROVE you're sick. And until then, they must presume you're NOT Sick (Innocent).

And please note that PAUL didn't suffer abuse without appealing to Caesar.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

 

[Bobby Jo]

...
Bad enough the United States is in a huge mess right now... .

CORRECTION: -- Bad enough the United States is being reported in a huge mess right now by the DISHONEST MEDIA ...

Assertions are not FACTS. Sometimes they're only PROPAGANDA!
Bobby Jo

 

[Addy]

I agree in following the "rules" are LEGAL, but not if they're ILLEGAL. And here in the U.S., you cannot be determined to be SICK (Guilt), unless they PROVE you're sick. And until then, they must presume you're NOT Sick (Innocent).

And please note that PAUL didn't suffer abuse without appealing to Caesar.

With Best Regards,
Bobby Jo

I don't even know what to say back to this... as being sick or not sick has NOTHING to do with guilt or innocence...
I don't see any abuse going on in my country over the covid-19 dilemma... We are all doing the best we can to get
through a very strange time. Canada and United States have handled the pandemic in totally different ways. I respect
how things have been handled here.

 

[Addy]

CORRECTION: -- Bad enough the United States is being reported in a huge mess right now by the DISHONEST MEDIA ...

Assertions are not FACTS. Sometimes they're only PROPAGANDA!
Bobby Jo

LOL @ you... I stand corrected... YOUR country is A-ok and everything is glorious. Be blessed.

 

[Ziggy]

YouTube took down another Patriot.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I don't speak french. But Billy Joyce has a radio station in Canada.
If I can't find him, I will miss him dearly.

Adoration, if you can find him..
Hugs

 

[Addy]

YouTube took down another Patriot.. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I don't speak french. But Billy Joyce has a radio station in Canada.
If I can't find him, I will miss him dearly.

Adoration, if you can find him..
Hugs

Because I live in Ontario... and it sounds like Billy Joyce is from the maritime provinces ( east coast )... there is no way for me to find him other than Youtube. I did listen to a bit of the video... but my french is terrible... How on earth did you come to find this person's radio show ???

 

[Ziggy]

Because I live in Ontario... and it sounds like Billy Joyce is from the maritime provinces ( east coast )... there is no way for me to find him other than Youtube. I did listen to a bit of the video... but my french is terrible... How on earth did you come to find this person's radio show ???

It was in English..
I had him in my YT favorites and he's gone.
Billy Joyce,
I don't have twitter but I can search it:
https://twitter.com/BillyJoyce1976

Billy got a link to his bitchute page and twitter put up a warning saying it's dangerous.. what a bunch of ..
I'll be nice..
hmmm
Bitchute incase you like to hear a different perspective.
Hugs

BillyJoyce-CanadasRedPill

 

[Truman]

In our area we are ordered not to meet in church on sunday anymore.
Yet the schools, bars, restaurants, etc are still open under certain conditions.
Our churches are closed now!

These certain conditions are invalid for our local churches.
No more meetings in church, period

British Columbia Canada:
On November 19, 2020, Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry issued a provincial order that prohibits indoor and outdoor gatherings of any size. In-person religious gatherings and worship services including drive-in church) are not allowed from November 19 at midnight. This order also does not allow social gatherings of any size with anyone other than those in your household or core bubble.

So lets look at scripture and please respond with your ideas and comments.....


What does Hebrews 10:25 mean?
Personal contact with other Christians is not merely suggested by the Bible: it is commanded. A practical reason for this was given in the prior verse. Relationships with other believers are one way to be encouraged to live out the faith we proclaim. We are called on to "hold fast," through our own spiritual maturity. Growth in faith, however, is greatly influenced by having Christian examples around us. This is why the Great Commission was for the church to "make disciples," not merely to talk about Jesus (Matthew 28:18–20). Verse 24 commanded Christians to look for opportunities to inspire others to love and to good works.

This verse specifically disapproves of failure, on the part of Christians, to meet with other Christians. The Greek term used here is enkataleipontes, referring to "an abandonment or forsaking." The ESV translates this term as "neglect," since it implies a failure to do something one ought to be doing. In clear terms, Christians have an obligation to fellowship with other Christians. This is not only necessary for discipleship, but so that we can meet each other's needs, and encourage and inspire other Christians in their faith...........

If we obey, we suffer. If we disobey, we suffer. Suffer for God.
I have been starting my day lately by worshiping with Maverick City and their song Promises. Joining the intangible congregation worshiping Elohim in Spirit and in Truth.
I guess it depends on how you look at it.

 

[Ziggy]

 

[TheslightestID]

It still seems to me that we're GOD Agents, and Participants in Righteousness. And although I don't see a parallel for us today in the historical insurrection against King George; I DO SEE that MANY Christians will be martyred for standing for Christ. And this FIGHT is in PARTICIPATION with GOD, -- not simply DEFERRING to GOD as though HE were going to effect HIS plans by HIMSELF.





Bobby Jo

Sure, I get that, but this, as you seem to realize, isn't really about standing for Christ. Albeit true this is a major right to be concerned with, it's still just about general rights. But I agree, things will be different towards the end.

I know my comment won't be very popular on a thread such as this, especialy once people get themselves fired up, but I guess I felt compelled to post simply because it's the truth for today anyway, and to remind, the wrongs and rights on this are posted in the bible. For many Christians, if God says it, that is it, they are more than happy to drop any arguments, because they don't want to have to wrestle with figuring this stuff out on their own to begin with.

 

[Bobby Jo]

LOL @ you... I stand corrected... YOUR country is A-ok and everything is glorious. Be blessed.

I keep having to make CORRECTIONS, -- and your post may have been tongue-in-cheek --, but ALL COUNTRIES are "A-ok" if our governments and conspirators cease lying to us. And this is not to discount that people die in a FLU SEASON, and numbers may be some multiplier (2x, 3x?) the normal death rate, but NOT 100x.

And in DOCUMENTED INSTANCES, entities which have NO Masks, NO Closures, and NO Restrictions, fared NO WORSE than those entities with MANDATED Masks, Closures, and Restrictions!


It's the Flu, and some 99.997% of healthy people recover, -- including both me and my wife in a "high risk" category.
Bobby Jo

 

[Enoch111]

I don't see any abuse going on in my country over the covid-19 dilemma...

Really. I live in Alberta, Canada, and the abuse of power, and the COVID tyranny of petty officials is evident throughout Canada (which follows the same bogus narrative as the USA. UK, Australia, etc.)

There is no "COVID dilemma". However, this is a COVID hoax if you have a mind to search out the truth, amidst the daily barrage of lies. Check out the web site of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms. They are fighting government overreach in Canada.

Most Canadians have no clue about how they are being played by the media and the politicians. That Canada could vote for a moron like Justin Trudeau to be Prime Minister tells you something. And if the senile bumbling Joe Biden somehow manages to get into the US presidency, you will have two clowns running North America.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... as you seem to realize, isn't really about standing for Christ. ...

Ummmmmmmm, what you DON'T seem to realize is this IS about standing for Christ, and for our GOD GIVEN AUTHORITY on Earth. We're NOT CREATED TO BE SERVANTS of other men, -- whether Pastors, Priests, Policemen, Politicians, or Presidents. WE ARE ALL EQUAL in GOD's eyes, and NO MAN is above us, except that we are to obey those laws which are designed for our welfare. And if those laws EXCEED our CONSTITUTION, they are UNCONSTITUTIONAL and invalid.

And it's ok that some men want other men to be over them. It's their choice, -- so long as we understand that when Sin came into the Garden that Adam still received from GOD, but Eve was placed under her husband. So if you need a "husband" the by all means, -- you can choose to be a woman!

Bobby Jo

 

[TheslightestID]

Ummmmmmmm, what you DON'T seem to realize is this IS about standing for Christ, and for our GOD GIVEN AUTHORITY on Earth.

As I've explained in my first post to this conversation, and explained using the bible to prove beyond doubt my point, our so-called authority is actually zip in cases where the law says different. God even warns of the penalties for breaking the law.

So, since I have shown you how the bible backs up what I say, you will need to prove, with the bible your following comment is true;

And if those laws EXCEED our CONSTITUTION, they are UNCONSTITUTIONAL and invalid.

And if you think you have proven them invalid, then this is the same old story, take it to court and prove the constitution backs you up and get the laws changed, but until you can get the courts to rule in your favor, the law is the standing rule. We arent allowed to simply say, "Well thats invalid, so I'll do as I wish"...if we were, threre would be nothing but chaos.

 

[Bobby Jo]

... our so-called authority is actually zip in cases where the law says different. ...

THERE IS NO "LAW" if it's Unconstitutional. Furthermore, when Jesus "violated the LAW" of the Jews, he complied with the LAW of GOD.

... take it to court and prove the constitution backs you up and get the laws changed ...

To take ANYTHING to court you first have to be "aggrieved" either by Denial, Arrest, Incarceration, or Imprisonment. But I suspect that the "Tea Party INDIANS" had few if any of these, -- they simply took matters into their own hands --, and they were Righteous!


But as I've provided, some men prefer being women. :shrug:
Bobby Jo

 

[TheslightestID]

THERE IS NO "LAW" if it's Unconstitutional.

Of course there is if YOU or joe 6pack deem it unconstitutional, as that is just an opinion at that point. As I said, if our opinion on what the law SHOULD be was the law we followed, things would be chaos.

To take ANYTHING to court you first have to be "aggrieved" either by Denial, Arrest, Incarceration, or Imprisonment.

No, to change a law, you really dont even need a lawer. Here is a breif outline that:

How to Change a Law Through the Democratic Process (with Pictures)

 

[Bobby Jo]

... if YOU ... deem it unconstitutional ...

Yeah, you caught me. I confess, I own a DeLorean and can travel in "time", and have altered the words of the Constitution to include "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness"; and also changed the Bill of Rights to include the following Amendments as follows: 1st, 4th, and 6th, so that I could "drink my 6-pack" and imagine what I WANT instead of what IS.


We're through with this discussion, and probably any future waste of your time: On IGNORE!

Matt. 15:13 He answered, “Every plant which my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. 14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”​

Bobby Jo

 

[TheslightestID]

We're through with this discussion, and probably any future waste of your time: On IGNORE!

My work is done here. Lol

 

[Addy]

Really. I live in Alberta, Canada, and the abuse of power, and the COVID tyranny of petty officials is evident throughout Canada (which follows the same bogus narrative as the USA. UK, Australia, etc.)

There is no "COVID dilemma". However, this is a COVID hoax if you have a mind to search out the truth, amidst the daily barrage of lies. Check out the web site of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms. They are fighting government overreach in Canada.

Most Canadians have no clue about how they are being played by the media and the politicians. That Canada could vote for a moron like Justin Trudeau to be Prime Minister tells you something. And if the senile bumbling Joe Biden somehow manages to get into the US presidency, you will have two clowns running North America.

You are entitled to your opinion. I have shared mine.

 

[Addy]

I keep having to make CORRECTIONS, -- and your post may have been tongue-in-cheek --, but ALL COUNTRIES are "A-ok" if our governments and conspirators cease lying to us. And this is not to discount that people die in a FLU SEASON, and numbers may be some multiplier (2x, 3x?) the normal death rate, but NOT 100x.

And in DOCUMENTED INSTANCES, entities which have NO Masks, NO Closures, and NO Restrictions, fared NO WORSE than those entities with MANDATED Masks, Closures, and Restrictions!


It's the Flu, and some 99.997% of healthy people recover, -- including both me and my wife in a "high risk" category.
Bobby Jo

I truly have no interest in what the media says or what people think about covid... I live my life quietly... with respect to others.. and strive for peace. No one has taken any freedoms from me... wearing a mask in enclosed public places does not the least offend me. There is no more to be said.