Mother of James?

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Nancy

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I agree Nancy, no love in their hearts. And I though of the thing about 'pearls' but thought it might be unkind so didn't say it. I'm glad you did though.

Very apt, yes? And very sad as, without love: "If I have the gift of prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing."
1 Corinthians 13:2
 
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@soul @BreadOfLife Sorry mates but you are going on ignore. I didn't want to do that but you are like stuck gramophone needles.
 
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If you are not ashamed to answer the question, then say who decided which books are in your Bible.


There you go again. Fetch boy. Good, now drop it.
 

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Might be time to look for another "job". Have not seen one single person become converted to Catholicism through your nastiness. I will be putting you and the others on ignore because you cause way too much division and, you are bereft of love.
And yet, you approve of @DNB's dishonest manure, to which I was responding?

Hypocrisy
noted . . .
 

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Correct, and who were those human instruments?
@soul


Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning
Running rings around the moon

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes of its face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind!
 

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@soul @BreadOfLife Sorry mates but you are going on ignore. I didn't want to do that but you are like stuck gramophone needles.
Got it.

Since you can't respond to the Scriptural and historical facts - you really have no choice but to put us on "Ignore" . . .
 

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Got it.

Since you can't respond to the Scriptural and historical facts - you really have no choice but to put us on "Ignore" . . .
You're like the Spanish inquisition. Your'e like a dog with a bone. Your'e being unkind. But will you let it drop? No you won't. But you have resorted to harrassment.
 

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:D - Okay, now I know that you're just messin' with me. It is impossible to conclude that mother Mary is the focus of Divinity. Come on now! lol

Luke 2:25-33 NLT - "At that time there was a man in Jerusalem named Simeon. He was righteous and devout and was eagerly waiting for the Messiah to come and rescue Israel. The Holy Spirit was upon him 26 and had revealed to him that he would not die until he had seen the Lord's Messiah. 27 That day the Spirit led him to the Temple. So when Mary and Joseph came to present the baby Jesus to the Lord as the law required, 28 Simeon was there. He took the child in his arms and praised God, saying, 29 "Sovereign Lord, now let your servant die in peace, as you have promised. 30 I have seen your salvation, 31 which you have prepared for all people. 32 He is a light to reveal God to the nations, and he is the glory of your people Israel!" 33 Jesus' parents were amazed at what was being said about him."

what do you mean focus of divinity?

Jesus is our salvation!
Mary is his mother!
Mary is the mother of our salvation!
 

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THANK YOU for once again illustrating your counterfeit beliefs.
Christ's Church is NOT to be "hidden".

According to Christ Himself:
Matt. 5:14-16
“You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill CANNOT BE HIDDEN. Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may SEE your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

That's why I LOVE debating you - because you expose your own ignorance of God and His Word.
It makes MY job that much easier . . .
So, what's the verdict then, only Catholics are saved - those who accept all papal dogma?
 
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You wouldn't say that God's WORD is the final authority, fine. Man is fallible so, thanks but no thanks. I prefer to be taught scripture, not mans rituals and traditions. And, a priest is no different than a pastor in that they BOTH interpret scripture. At least in a protestant church, they actually TEACH!

Even in Holy Scripture, we need to be carefore, for even Dr. Luke and Matthew disagree with each other. They both tell a different story on who bought Potter's Field. Whoops!

So if Dr. Luke can be wrong, then certainly any of us can be as well. That is why I try to not talk as though what I say has "been established." Pft . . . I'm just a regular dude doing my best while on this planet.
 
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Might be time to look for another "job". Have not seen one single person become converted to Catholicism through your nastiness. I will be putting you and the others on ignore because you cause way too much division and, you are bereft of love.

I've already done it. But . . . I'll lift the ban soon enough. :)
 
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what do you mean by focus of divinity?

Jesus is our salvation!
Mary is his mother!
Mary is the mother of our salvation!

Sorry my friend, but if you don't understand what I'm getting at, a continuance of discussion would be fruitless. I'd rather wait to find something we agree on. Till then, may the rest of your year be absolutely splendid! :)
 
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Even in Holy Scripture, we need to be carefore, for even Dr. Luke and Matthew disagree with each other. They both tell a different story on who bought Potter's Field. Whoops!

So if Dr. Luke can be wrong, then certainly any of us can be as well. That is why I try to not talk as though what I say has "been established." Pft . . . I'm just a regular dude doing my best while on this planet.

Well, that is quite bothersome. If we cannot believe Holy Scripture, what have we to base our doctrine on? How do we trust any of it if even one verse or story does not line up? There has to be a reason for this "contradiction" and if there is not...then it is a free for all. Believe what we want, make those scriptures fit into our little cherry picked boxes. I'd thought all along that the bible held ONLY truth and it is always the "go to" place for His instruction. Now I'm thinking, oh no...back to square one unless this is clarified :eek: There has GOTTA be a reason these stories are vastly different!
 

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Well, that is quite bothersome. If we cannot believe Holy Scripture, what have we to base our doctrine on? How do we trust any of it if even one verse or story does not line up? There has to be a reason for this "contradiction" and if there is not...then it is a free for all. Believe what we want, make those scriptures fit into our little cherry-picked boxes. I'd thought all along that the bible held ONLY truth and it is always the "go-to" place for His instruction. Now I'm thinking, oh no...back to square one unless this is clarified :eek: There has GOTTA be a reason these stories are vastly different!

You're not going to hear this from anyone else: There is a hidden, Mysterious Plan that I have been speaking of. It is described in the Triangle of Truth, the lower left leg, which is Ephesians 3:10-18. When we read the aforementioned Ephesians set of text, we all should instantly be telling ourselves . . . "What? You mean there is a message that is hidden and mysterious? I've got to know what it is!"

Have you noticed that virtually everyone, here, argues about this and that? Why? None of what they argue has to do with the Gospel of Christ. None of it has to do with the Holy Work of Christ. So what does this mean? It means that folks here are arguing about things that do not matter, and that includes who purchased Potters Field. Think about it: Does it matter who bought Potters Field? Nope! What matters is that we are wise in our endless sense of asking, seeking, and knocking. Those who continue will find all kinds of issues in His Word, for Potters Field isn't the only one. :)

Our Powerful God is waiting for us to put our entire being into Him . . . nothing else. He is waiting for those who keep on searching the Scriptures for the Truth to come to Him, and when they do, He will reveal more than Spiritual Milk, which is what this forum likes to argue about . . . but instead, those who refuse to stop asking the Lord for His Holy Truth, these will be given meat to eat for supper.

Aren't we tired of drinking milk for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Isn't it time to begin eating Filet Mignon? If a person wants to eat meat, stop arguing over things that do not matter, but instead, search the Scriptures for that hidden Mystery. Search the Scripture for that hidden, Mysterious Plan!
 
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You're not going to hear this from anyone else: There is a hidden, Mysterious Plan that I have been speaking of. It is described in the Triangle of Truth, the lower left leg, which is Ephesians 3:10-18. When we read the aforementioned Ephesians set of text, we all should instantly be telling ourselves . . . "What? You mean there is a message that is hidden and mysterious? I've got to know what it is!"

Have you noticed that virtually everyone, here, argues about this and that? Why? None of what they argue has to do with the Gospel of Christ. None of it has to do with the Holy Work of Christ. So what does this mean? It means that folks here are arguing about things that do not matter, and that includes who purchased Potters Field. Think about it: Does it matter who bought Potters Field? Nope! What matters is that we are wise in our endless sense of asking, seeking, and knocking. Those who continue will find all kinds of issues in His Word, for Potters Field isn't the only one. :)

Our Powerful God is waiting for us to put our entire being into Him . . . nothing else. He is waiting for those who keep on searching the Scriptures for the Truth to come to Him, and when they do, He will reveal more than Spiritual Milk, which is what this forum likes to argue about . . . but instead, those who refuse to stop asking the Lord for His Holy Truth, these will be given meat to eat for supper.

Aren't we tired of drinking milk for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Isn't it time to begin eating Filet Mignon? If a person wants to eat meat, stop arguing over things that do not matter, but instead, search the Scriptures for that hidden Mystery. Search the Scripture for that hidden, Mysterious Plan!
@Nancy, is it just me, or is this the weirdest thing that you have ever heard, ...or, at least, close to it?
2TG, you need to clarify what you are speaking of here, if you are able (doubtful), because you are sounding a little too mystical and gnostic right now to be taken seriously?