Who founded your church?

[theefaith]

Mighty left wing of you. When Antifa burned down Washington DC it was called "peaceful protest" when the republicans do it is "insurrection".
This is known as a double standard, and as the old saying goes, if it weren't for double standards the left would have no standards. Does this quote apply to the catholic church as well?

i agree and I’m a conservative, they hate trump (I voted) so much they want to impeach him 8 days before the inauguration even

but there is always an instigator or persecutor even in the double standard situation they call it civil war as in the Protestant persecution of Catholics in Ireland or the communists against Catholics in Spain or Mexico in the 1920’s and 30’s

 

[theefaith]

Violence breeds violence. Many of those who perpetrate these sorts of Crimes were victims of the same at the hands of the catholics in their country of origin. Violence in response to violence is condemned as well, that is the point of what I said regarding meekness. I have dealt with this a lot with people who are victims of childhood violence, as this perpetuation of violence has to stop. Many victims of these crimes become perpetrators themselves. Think about that. If the catholic church is the mother of harlots, who are her daughters, Many protestants who in turn fall into the same crimes. This is not an anticatholic point but an anti Nicolaitan point i am making it pervades all of Christendom. We must break that cycle and build a relationship not with Christendom, but with Christ. I Hope I am getting through to you on this.?

the whore has certain requirements
The hardest one is the statement drunk with the blood of the saints and it’s not the church most likely the pagan Roman Empire who persecuted the Catholic Church for 300 plus years the only other with that many martyrs is communism

 

[theefaith]

I agree all mob violence must stop

 

[theefaith]

That is not persecution, that is caution, because we know what the catholic church state has done in their history, and do not want to repeat history.

Double standard? Only Catholics can persecute, I see

 

[theefaith]

Still trying to change the subject.
You advocate Church/State conspired executions.
You're on-the-record.
Own it.

All the kingdoms owe allegiance to Christ and his church

 

[theefaith]

Still trying to change the subject.
You advocate Church/State conspired executions.
You're on-the-record.
Own it.

seperation of church and state gives you abortion on demand, no payer or Bible or moral teaching in school no judeo-Christian history in school, publish any new age garbage or filth you want, no commandments at the courthouse etc.

Religious liberty, liberty of conscience, religious and denominational indifference are principles of the Freemasons not Christians!

 

[David H.]

i agree and I’m a conservative, they hate trump (I voted) so much they want to impeach him 8 days before the inauguration even

but there is always an instigator or persecutor even in the double standard situation they call it civil war as in the Protestant persecution of Catholics in Ireland or the communists against Catholics in Spain or Mexico in the 1920’s and 30’s

the whore has certain requirements
The hardest one is the statement drunk with the blood of the saints and it’s not the church most likely the pagan Roman Empire who persecuted the Catholic Church for 300 plus years the only other with that many martyrs is communism

Double standard? Only Catholics can persecute, I see

No, Not only Catholics can persecute. Persecution is top down. Those with power opposed to those without power. The violence then perpetuates itself, and justifies the top down violence. The Left in this country is falling victim to the same thing they accused the government of in the sixties and seventies, they now are the ones in power, and they are perpetuating that violence and if we react in accord with this, we are justifying their violence. We need to point out their hypocrisy, let us suffer as welldoers, not as murderers and thieves ourselves. Read my Post that I just wrote where i mentioned you.

Re: A harlot: A harlot in scripture is a religion that has fallen into apotacy and idolatry. If the catholic church is the mother church as you surmise, then her harlot daughters are the denominations she has birthed. This does not bode well for both the catholic church and the Protestant churches. Unlike You, I see that there are believers and true Christians in all the denominations including the catholic church. My Issue is with the Nicolaitanism which I hate as Christ Jesus himself hated. This not just a Catholic problem but a Protestant one, and a problem in secular governments as well. We as believers can do something about it in our churches, but not in the world. That is why the harlot is shown riding the beast which represents world government and power. We must choose not to ride the beast.

 

[theefaith]

Yes choose not to ride the beast, I think it was the pagan Roman Empire
The church birthed no denominations as I see it, those are all rebellion and starting churches opposed to the church and authority of Christ

 

[BarneyFife]

seperation of church and state gives you abortion on demand, no payer or Bible or moral teaching in school no judeo-Christian history in school, publish any new age garbage or filth you want, no commandments at the courthouse etc.

Religious liberty, liberty of conscience, religious and denominational indifference are principles of the Freemasons not Christians!

I'm glad there are a few states between you and me. You are scary. People like you are the reason Catholics had such a hard time in early 20th century America.

 

[theefaith]

I did not know there was more than one state

 

[BarneyFife]

I did not know there was more than one state

There's 50. Your profile says you're in Texas. I'm over on the eastern seaboard so I feel fairly safe. I don't want to be executed.

 

[Renniks]

Boy - you REALLY don't undrstand Jesus - DO you?

He doesn't expect perfection - He expects obedience. You cannot have true faith without it but it's NOT about being perfect.
We STRIVE for perfection in Christ. THAT is being obedient - whether we sometimes stumble or not.

Totally missed the point. We are only saved through grace by faith. If we were saved by works, we would have something to boast about.

 

[theefaith]

Ask Jesus what?

i asked and he said Lk 10:16

 

[theefaith]

There's 50. Your profile says you're in Texas. I'm over on the eastern seaboard so I feel fairly safe. I don't want to be executed.

new we’re talking Middle Ages anyway

 

[theefaith]

new we’re talking Middle Ages anyway

You beat everything you know that
10-4

 

[theefaith]

Ask Jesus what?

Jesus said also

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 acts 9 eph 2:20

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

 

[BarneyFife]

Totally missed the point. We are only saved through grace by faith. If we were saved by works, we would have something to boast about.

It's by grace through faith--there's a difference.

 

[Renniks]

Thank you for that rationalization.
Unfortunately - you have given ZERO evidence for your interpretation.

The sprinkling of WATER and the REMOVAL of sin is a polyvalent symbol. In other words - it hase more than one meaning.
In this verse, "Water" is the BAPTISM - and it is ALSO the living Water that is Christ (John 4:13-15, John 7:38).

THIS is how sin is REMOVED, per Scripture - NOT by offering up animal sacrifice as the Jews did.

Weak response. You didn't even answer the important part. The reason Jesus thought Nicodemus should know how a Jew being born again would work, is because he was a teacher and had the Torah. Symbolic language in Ezekiel is the norm, it's full of symbolism.
Also note that the disciples and apostles never sprinkled anyone with water, they immersed them. Boy, they must have missed that verse, huh?

 

[Renniks]

It's by grace through faith--there's a difference.

Ok, what difference are you speaking of?

 

[BarneyFife]

You beat everything you know that
10-4

Get in there, and suck in that gut!!