Hebrews 10:26-31

[Ferris Bueller]

@Blood Bought 1953 , if your teaching doesn't make grace a license to sin, would you explain to us how a person makes grace a license to sin so we can be careful not to do that? How is making grace a license to sin different than your teaching?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

No it's not. The knowledge of salvation is the most elementary teaching of Christianity. That's baby milk knowledge. The knowledge of salvation is the food that babies start out eating. From there they grow up on the teachings distinguishing between evil and good in order to actually live the life of Christ that God saved them to live.

1Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, a and of faith in God
Hebrews 6:1

13Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness.
Hebrews 5:13​

Everybody loves baby milk, and it's easy to prepare and consume, but it's not the meat of the word that will grow you up to into the mature stature and image of Christ. You've been drinking baby milk for 55 years. It's time to grow up.

We’ll let the readers of our Posts determine who needs to “ Grow Up” and get off the Bottle Of “ Lucky Repentance” and the REJECTION of the Grace That Saved every person who was ever Saved....Baby’s WORK to get Saved and/or STAY Saved...The Mature Believer RESTS and , not that it has “ anything “ to do with Salvation, actually PERFORMS better than the Guy that Works at His Performance and Obedience.....yep , I don’t even “ Try” , and as luck would have it, I do better than you do....all from the heart....all Natural......and you are Clueless to everything I am talking about....it’s too complicated for a Baby to understand....You are too Stiff- Necked to Abandon your Spiritual Diapers and “ Grow Up” like many of us here.....You just don’t “ Get it” , and you don’t even know it.....
I have “Lived” your type of religion.....I used to be a Baby like you......I have seen and Lived both sides of the argument....You have not....Thats why I can speak with Authority....I have Lived your side and grew out if it......as for “ My Side?” ....... you have No Idea about the things that I am Talking about ....if you possessed any wisdom , this Truth would humble you, but alas.....
In a “Nutshell” , you don’t know what you are talking about.My God, I hope Newbies reject your False Gospel .....but only God can “ open their eyes” . He opened mine. Sometimes I wonder how many people you and your ilk have ruined.....Newbies who are Sitting on the Fence — I am Right and I KNOW that I am right — if you Doubt that, “ Take it to Jesus” .....I have confidence that He will steer you away from Perverted, Work to STAY Saved, False gospels........

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I'm not the one making God's grace greasy. I maintain that God's grace is NOT greasy. The doctrine of 'Easy believism' makes God's grace greasy, not me.

“ Maintain” all that you like .....your actions speak so Loud I can’t hear what you are saying....you have already “ Hung” yourself with what you have said.....man up and at Least have the Guts to stick by your “ greasy” Doctrine .....quit trying to “ smooth talk” your way out of it....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

“ Maintain” all that you like .....your actions speak so Loud I can’t hear what you are saying....you have already “ Hung” yourself with what you have said.....man up and at Least have the Guts to stick by your “ greasy” Doctrine .....quit trying to “ smooth talk” your way out of it....

Your teaching is what makes grace greasy, not mine. If you are sure that your teaching does not make grace greasy explain why grace is not greasy in your teaching.

 

[HisLife]

I'm not the one making God's grace greasy. I maintain that God's grace is NOT greasy. The doctrine of 'Easy believism' makes God's grace greasy, not me.

Believing The Truth Is Easy if you have eyes to see, Receiving A Gift Is easy why do you choose to think it's Hard or make it hard for others, Why try Limit the Riches Of his Grace, When Salvation is by Grace It is the worst thing you could ever choose to go against


Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

@Blood Bought 1953 , if your teaching doesn't make grace a license to sin, would you explain to us how a person makes grace a license to sin so we can be careful not to do that? How is making grace a license to sin different than your teaching?

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God’s Grace has not been extended to you....that’s why you don’t understand it.....and I am tired of “ casting Pearls before Swine”.... I shouldn’t waste Precious Computer ink , but I’ll give you a shortcut that will go right over your head ...
The True, Heartfelt UNDERSTANDING of Grace Spurs “ LOVE” ......” LOVE” spurs the TRUE Obedience From THE HEART that God Truly desires ...it is an Obedience that is Natural and flows through you and you don’t even have to make an effort at it anymore....
It something that sounds “Blasphemous” to those that have never Lived it.....” believers” like you and “justbyfaithplusluckyrepentance“..... It’s EXACTLY like this—- “Love God and Live as you please”....if the light switch in your head ever goes off and you understand this, and you can untangle that knot in your panties.....please let me know...
You wanna talk about Spiritual “ MEAT?” .....Try to top that one.....
Sin sucks.....Sticking your hand in a Fire also sucks....Why would I desire a “ License” for either one? Get Real.Grow up.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Work to STAY Saved, False gospels....

No, no! You're still not listening! It's 'BELIEVE to stay saved', not 'Work to stay saved'.

...we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory. Hebrews 3:6

14 We have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original conviction firmly to the very end. Hebrews 3:14

23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. Hebrews 10:24

2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. 1 Corinthians 15:2​

Some people believe that the true believer will always believe no matter what. Some think the true believer can stop believing. But one thing is clear and not up for debate, you have to continue to believe to the very end to be saved when Jesus comes back.

 

[HisLife]

I admit that I am the one that you must be referring to.

Do you think that such an attitude in debate constitutes bad fruit; or could it be that sometimes we can get caught up in a debate mentality and do such things in spite of ourselves?

So you admit it,on another thread You quoted half a sentence, You cut it to make it look like I said something completely different to what I said in the full sentence, Then accused me according to what you quoted, I asked you why you only quoted half the sentence, not to the full stop and you said I must have edited it after, Then I said no the post hasn't been edited or it would say it at the bottom, And you wouldn't Answer, Very Dishonest Tactic

 

[justbyfaith]

Luk 13:23, Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luk 13:24, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25, When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26, Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27, But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Luk 13:28, There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
Luk 13:29, And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
Luk 13:30, And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

 

[HisLife]

Luk 13:24, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

Strive to enter Your not there yet, You have to put your Faith in Jesus

 

[justbyfaith]

So you admit it,on another thread You quoted half a sentence, You cut it to make it look like I said something completely different to what I said in the full sentence, Then accused me according to what you quoted, I asked you why you only quoted half the sentence, not to the full stop and you said I must have edited it after, Then I said no the post hasn't been edited or it would say it at the bottom, And you wouldn't Answer, Very Dishonest Tactic

You are obviously saying this to get a response out of me because I have been ignoring you.

I have no memory of the thing in question; and I don't think that it even exists.

But I have told you how you can go to the post and make a link out of it; so if you want to prove your point, by all means set forth the link here.

I do remember an instance where I edited a post and when I finished editing, you had already responded to the unedited post. I believe that if you hadn't immediately accused me, I would have done what I normally do when I edit a post and posted a post that said "edited post # __"

But of course, since you are looking for me to commit some kind of wrong, like the scribes and Pharisees with our Lord, you blew that all out of proportion and tried to accuse me; like you are doing again now.

 

[justbyfaith]

Strive to enter Your not there yet, You have to put your Faith in Jesus

Reported.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Sin sucks.....Sticking your hand in a Fire also sucks....Why would I desire a “ License” for either one?

How does your teaching not make grace a license to sin? You say God's grace makes it so we can deliberately sin all we want, if we want to. I contend that using grace to do that is trampling on the grace of God, not somehow abiding in it.....

26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left
29How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
Hebrews 10:26, Hebrews 10:29​

 

[HisLife]

You are obviously saying this to get a response out of me because I have been ignoring you.

I have no memory of the thing in question; and I don't think that it even exists.

But I have told you how you can go to the post and make a link out of it; so if you want to prove your point, by all means set forth the link here.

I do remember an instance where I edited a post and when I finished editing, you had already responded to the unedited post. I believe that if you hadn't immediately accused me, I would have done what I normally do when I edit a post and posted a post that said "edited post # __"

But of course, since you are looking for me to commit some kind of wrong, like the scribes and Pharisees with our Lord, you blew that all out of proportion and tried to accuse me; like you are doing again now.

Only been a day It's been great, Then there is your other tactic of selective Memory, I have shown you a few times, Maybe I will go find it if I to prove it again...Proof is in the pudding they say, Seen it's not about accusations, Its about truth and honesty, integrity

 

[Ferris Bueller]

“Love God and Live as you please”

I think Luther's reasoning was that God will keep you on track despite 'living as you please'. Well, you'd think Luther would have had a better grasp on scripture....

12See to it, brothers and sisters, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. 13But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called “Today,” so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. Hebrews 3:12-12​

Sin is a deceiver that can harden the heart. It think it terribly unwise for someone, especially a church leader, to tell a Christian to live as you please and risk them hardening their heart against God in unbelief.

 

[justbyfaith]

Only been a day It's been great, Then there is your other tactic of selective Memory, I have shown you a few times, Maybe I will go find it if I to prove it again...Proof is in the pudding they say, Seen it's not about accusations, Its about truth and honesty, integrity

If I actually did that I will apologize to you; I think that I have a vague recollection of something like that happening.

 

[justbyfaith]

Seen it's not about accusations,

That's right...because satan is the accuser of the brethren; and when people begin to accuse other people, they are taking on the nature and employment of the enemy.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Believing The Truth Is Easy if you have eyes to see, Receiving A Gift Is easy why do you choose to think it's Hard or make it hard for others, Why try Limit the Riches Of his Grace, When Salvation is by Grace It is the worst thing you could ever choose to go against


Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Being at rest from sin shows you are born again. But you keep hearing the argument as not sinning makes you born again. Working can never pay the price of salvation. Working shows that you have received the free gift of salvation. Because, as you can see in the passage you quoted above, the person who comes to Christ receives rest from the taskmaster of sin. The one who is still in bondage to his old lifestyle of willful sin shows he is not at rest in Christ.

 

[HisLife]

That's right...because satan is the accuser of the brethren; and when people begin to accuse other people, they are taking on the nature and employment of the enemy.

So Stop Accusing Christians That they will go to hell if they make a mistake.

 

[HisLife]

Being at rest from sin shows you are born again. But you keep hearing the argument as not sinning makes you born again. Working can never pay the price of salvation. Working shows that you have received the free gift of salvation. Because, as you can see in the passage you quoted above, the person who comes to Christ receives rest from the taskmaster of sin. The one who is still in bondage to his old lifestyle of willful sin shows he is not at rest in Christ.

No, I don't But you don't see the other side of what you are saying besides Who is in willful Sin? what Sin are you always talking about? Sure If you are born again You will do works But who are you to judge, It's not your responsibility, Your job should be to preach the Gospel But you oppose the Gospel And say Jesus Didn't Die for all sins, You don't Know what work God Does in someone's Life, I will give you an example If someone Was An Adulterer or murderer, And they Heard the truth and where born again, Then they Decided not to Cheat On there Partner Or didn't end up in a situation where they would've killed someone You wouldn't know about it, You would just see a normal Person, The fact that God worked in there life and they didn't kill a person last night you would never see or know anything about it, You overstep your boundaries And oppose The Gospel for your make-belief ideas