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kcnalp

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O I FULLY UNDERSTAND the importance the Big question is whose ? i can stay up with either one of you using scripture. if you notice i have yet to take ether side . so who has the correct Biblical doctrines? you or him . your dealing with interpretation's.. i preach a know so salvation
My point is, I can't lose either way. OSASers can.
 

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NON OSASers are not saved according to OSASers. Judgment Day will be a bad day for the OSAS judges!

Matthew 7:1-2 (NKJV)
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
 

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faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1

Evidence never saved anybody. Only putting your trust in what you can't see saves you.
The word faith in the Greek means to have an assurance and a trust

as for scripture

faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word

faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen

in the HOPE of eternal life, which God, who can not lie, promised before time began

faith comes by hearing. The gospel

it’s based on our hope. Of what we can not see in that we are confident and assured that the hope will come true

and that hope is eternal life

how can you have faith in a hope that is not assured?
 

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It goes deeper than this

I asked what happened, and what it should teach us.

what did God earn would happen to any person or animal who touched the mountain, and what did the people react to God on the mountain?
It shows how it is forbidden to approach God through the law. Everyone who tries to do that will die. I'm confident you can see the spiritual application here.
 

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what if one member fails, the whole body fails? What if one member doesn’t endure to the end, does the body endure? Without a toe? Without the head? Without the feet?

1 Corinthians 12:20-26 But now are they many members, yet but one body. [21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. [22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: [23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. [24] For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: [25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. [26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

if the body God has tempered together that there be no schisms...then where one goes they all go, unto the end?
 

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It shows how it is forbidden to approach God through the law. Everyone who tries to do that will die. I'm confident you can see the spiritual application here.
I did not even mention the law

god said it was forbidden for them to approach him period.lest they die, they wanted moses to talk to them because their fear of God was so deep they knew if God spoke to them they would die. Because they understood their guilt, before the law was even given.

they had nothing, they were naked, totally bankrupt, totally hopeless, and in that despair came fear,

why do we need to see this?
 

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what if one member fails, the whole body fails? What if one member doesn’t endure to the end, does the body endure? Without a toe? Without the head? Without the feet?

1 Corinthians 12:20-26 But now are they many members, yet but one body. [21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. [22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: [23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. [24] For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: [25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. [26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

if the body God has tempered together that there be no schisms...then where one goes they all go, unto the end?
Those with a nominal, lukewarm, or shallow faith (mere mental assent to the tenets of the gospel) can fall away (Luke 8:13) and will be cut off (Romans 11:20-22) if they fall away.
 

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I did not even mention the law

god said it was forbidden for them to approach him period.lest they die, they wanted moses to talk to them because their fear of God was so deep they knew if God spoke to them they would die. Because they understood their guilt, before the law was even given.

they had nothing, they were naked, totally bankrupt, totally hopeless, and in that despair came fear (because of the fear of the Lord; which can be instilled in us through passages that teach a man can lose his salvation),

why do we need to see this?
So that we are driven to the Cross and so that once we are there, we will never leave (because of the fear of the Lord; which is instilled in us through passages that teach a man can lose his salvation).
 

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what if one member fails, the whole body fails? What if one member doesn’t endure to the end, does the body endure? Without a toe? Without the head? Without the feet?

Amen!

1 Corinthians 12:20-26 But now are they many members, yet but one body. [21] And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. [22] Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: [23] And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. [24] For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: [25] That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. [26] And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

if the body God has tempered together that there be no schisms...then where one goes they all go, unto the end?
And again Amen!

the focus should be solely on building the house of God as it was with the apostles.
 

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My point is, I can't lose either way. OSASers can.
and it shows "your point: all i have seen both present is argument do you believe you have to get resaved every time you sin? have you looked at what peter wrote kept by the power of God. do you not realize we have a advocate . you sound like a legalist you sneeze wrong you have to beg God not to send you to hell. answer the questions
 
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and it shows "your point: all i have seen both present is argument do you believe you have to get resaved every time you sin? have you looked at what peter wrote kept by the power of God. do you not realize we have a advocate . you sound like a legalist you sneeze wrong you have to beg God not to send you to hell. answer the questions
Be careful he will cry and say your judging him
 

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and it shows
Of course. OSASers keep judging everyone else.
Matthew 7:1-2 (NKJV)
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
"your point: all i have seen both present is argument
I quote Scripture to prove every point. How is that "argument"?
do you believe you have to get resaved every time you sin?
Of course not. Do you?
have you looked at what peter wrote kept by the power of God.
No quote?
do you not realize we have a advocate.
Of course, He is Jesus, the Son of God, my Savior!
you sound like a legalist you sneeze wrong you have to beg God not to send you to hell. answer the questions
I answered every question. You should try it. OSASers are the "legalists". Are you Baptist? Do you sin? Why do you ATTACK NON OSASers? Of course I don't expect an OSASer to answer questions.
 

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and it shows "your point: all i have seen both present is argument do you believe you have to get resaved every time you sin? have you looked at what peter wrote kept by the power of God. do you not realize we have a advocate . you sound like a legalist you sneeze wrong you have to beg God not to send you to hell. answer the questions

If we are abiding in Christ (1 John 3:6) we are abiding in salvation.

It is clear in holy scripture (1 John 2:17) that we can abide for ever more.

If anyone is willing to read Ezekiel 33:11-20, it also has a bearing on this concept.
 

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Of course. OSASers keep judging everyone else.
Matthew 7:1-2 (NKJV)
1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

I quote Scripture to prove every point. How is that "argument"?

Of course not. Do you?

No quote?

Of course, He is Jesus, the Son of God, my Savior!

I answered every question. You should try it. OSASers are the "legalists". Are you Baptist? Do you sin? Why do you ATTACK NON OSASers? Of course I don't expect an OSASer to answer questions.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
OSASers keep judging everyone else.
and what your posting is not? lol you got issues. i am ordained gen Baptist and i have preacher bro who are southern Baptist. we get along just fine see the name tag dont concern me at all your peeing into the wind have a good night. please dont lose your salvation over night

2 Peter 1
3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;

6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;

7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
every thing in your post is about YOU you you

do you not realize we have a advocate.
{ Of course, He is Jesus, the Son of God, my Savior!} that is the closet to truth you have yet to post ! WHAT IS eternal life? something that expires...
 
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