Can anyone point me to a ministry or minister who is NOT a "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing?

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Interesting where the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing show up - to any critical thinking mind, you would conclude the Wolves keep in your the Wide Gate to Death - not the Narrow Way to Life:

I'm wondering if anyone knows any ministry or minister that believes in Life and not Death - Matthew 7:13-15
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
 

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Nope, they don't believe salvation is "spirit soul and body" - I Thess 5:23

Hmmm... You read it that quickly?

Not sure what makes you draw that conclusion..

Perhaps you can quote the places which you think contradict that?

Peace be with you!
 

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Interesting where the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing show up - to any critical thinking mind, you would conclude the Wolves keep in your the Wide Gate to Death - not the Narrow Way to Life:

I'm wondering if anyone knows any ministry or minister that believes in Life and not Death - Matthew 7:13-15
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Can anyone point me to a ministry or minister who is NOT a "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing?
Yes, I can. If you are sufficiently interested, let me know.

On second thoughts....heres a link For God's Sake – Ian Hartleyhttp://ian-greyhartley.com
Let me know what you think?
 
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Interesting where the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing show up - to any critical thinking mind, you would conclude the Wolves keep in your the Wide Gate to Death - not the Narrow Way to Life:

I'm wondering if anyone knows any ministry or minister that believes in Life and not Death - Matthew 7:13-15
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Look,
I'm not really sure what you are asking for.

There's a ton of preachers out there all preaching whatever it is you want to hear... from ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal.

What is it really that you want?

Do you want someone to lead you to Jesus?
Are you wanting an accountability partner?
A guide for doing life?

Because I don't think that's what a pastor is for. That's what Christian friends do...and they are just people...no titles except for their occupations that aren't in the ministry.
So other than some mud slinging...what did you hope to gain out of your question?
 
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Look,
I'm not really sure what you are asking for.

There's a ton of preachers out there all preaching whatever it is you want to hear... from ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal.

What is it really that you want?

Do you want someone to lead you to Jesus?
Are you wanting an accountability partner?
A guide for doing life?

Because I don't think that's what a pastor is for. That's what Christian friends do...and they are just people...no titles except for their occupations that aren't in the ministry.
So other than some mud slinging...what did you hope to gain out of your question?

Any minister or ministry that believes in "Being transfigured by the renewing of the mind" - Romans 12:1-2.
I've not heard any yet, they all believe you have to die. You know, they quote Heb 9:27 without reading verse 28.
 

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Can anyone point me to a ministry or minister who is NOT a "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing?
Yes, I can. If you are sufficiently interested, let me know.

On second thoughts....heres a link For God's Sake – Ian Hartleyhttp://ian-greyhartley.com
Let me know what you think?
I spent a couple minutes looking for anything about "Putting on Immortality" (I cor 15)
or "Salvation spirit soul and body" - I Thess 5:23.
Found nothing.
Thanks anyway.
 

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I spent a couple minutes looking for anything about "Putting on Immortality" (I cor 15)
or "Salvation spirit soul and body" - I Thess 5:23.
Found nothing.
Thanks anyway.
sooo, 'Putting on Imortality' is your barrow? ...how did you get to that?
 

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Any minister or ministry that believes in "Being transfigured by the renewing of the mind" - Romans 12:1-2.
I've not heard any yet, they all believe you have to die. You know, they quote Heb 9:27 without reading verse 28.

Ok...
That's 99% of all preachers out there. Even the Mormons and JW's preach that.

So... again I'm going to ask you what exactly it is that you want?
 
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Nope - they all believe in death too.
No one needs to believe in death since it is the only unchanging fact of life! Evidently you are the only *preacher* worthy of your consideration. In any event this seems to be a pointless thread.
 

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I love giving to God, but not the browbeating and lie that we have to tithe. That was under law, not grace.
 

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I love giving to God, but not the browbeating and lie that we have to tithe. That was under law, not grace.
If only it was just Ten Percent these days...it would be so much cheaper.

And I will say that in the USA the local churches are usually cathedrals with plush pews, AV systems, and air conditioning. The pastor usually drives a nice vehicle paid for by the church too.
Elsewhere?
You do good to get a bench and a roof. Vehicles? They might rent one for a special occasion.
 

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Interesting where the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing show up - to any critical thinking mind, you would conclude the Wolves keep in your the Wide Gate to Death - not the Narrow Way to Life:

I'm wondering if anyone knows any ministry or minister that believes in Life and not Death - Matthew 7:13-15
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Just find one that teaches why you can't lose your salvation, basing this truth on the fact that you can't stop being born again, and stressing that the blood of Jesus that made you right with God, always does.
Find that teacher-preacher-pastor, and you are home.
And by using that theology of truth, you find out who the deceivers are, and you can avoid them.
 
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