Recent content by jaybird

i accept "just as" to mean exactly that, there is no need for me to "adulterate" anything. i am not taking the phrase "just as" and teaching others it means "not as" - the exact opposite. this is the great advantage of not believing the trinity, we do not have to rearrange scripture to make...

wow, how many different versions did i post, guess it doesnt matter, the scripture can be shown to you a million times, but you are not gonna let that come between you and your manmade doctrines. thats messed up. so why do you refuse to accept scripture?

New International Version that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. New Living Translation I pray that they will all be one, just as you and I are one—as you are in me, Father, and I am...

yes i have brought this up before, nothing wrong with believing what the bible clearly and plainly says. but not good enough for the trins, they believe you are not a Christian if you dont believe what is not said, what can not be explained, and what can not stand up to questioning. very sad

this comes from a translation hundreds of years after Jesus. which way did Jesus say to write "theos"? and thats the end of that argument and now your basing facts on what John was thinking? this is bad

yeah, if you want to see godly men you can find them on wall street. Lay and Skilling of Enron must be saints.

technically its plural in todays understanding of Hebrew, but none of the ancient bible writers believed it to be true. this is easy to see as no one ever referred to the Most High as "they", the trinity is a "they" and this is all the more reason the doctrine fails, the Most High is always...

hey ap what you up to? their arguments are not very sound and they fall apart when questioned. their arguments are so bad it makes me wonder if they are real trinitarians or they fake trins trying to make the doctrine look bad.

and if they refuse to answer and run from your questions you usually know they are full of it

i think thats what Jim Jones said to his people before they drank the koolaid. this is why we test things

Jesus would never teach us to go after gods, He taught to worship the Most High. this passage has nothing to do with anything, why do you post it? do you really think people fall for this distraction? when your theology gets tested, you have a chance to defend it, but you chose to ignore the...

really? ignorant and stubborn . . . .hmmm which one of us is asking questions, and which one of us is running from those questions? your funny

ok? and the Jews not believing in the trinity? were you just gonna remain silent on that issue? ignoring the problem in hopes that it goes away is not the wisest strategy.

thats great, i will be happy to take on those bad interpretations as well. but first, lets go back to that Mat 22 passage that you ignored. did you have a response on that one or you just gonna bury your head in the sand and make believe it does not exist?

no i didnt change anything, thats what the bible says, remember the bible scripture i posted that said this verbaitum. its not like i am adding : right into the middle of a Revelation passage, thats what desperate people would do. lucky for me i can post scripture without having to change them.