2009
The Final Countdown Began!
Did 2009 herald the call for us, God's children, to leave our spiritual Egypt and enter the wilderness for (1,260 days/3-1/2 years)? Is a certain point in 2011 marking the end of this age?
Although part of this thread is one written almost a year ago I wanted to add several points....I apologize for the length but feel it is important to understand as I believe the time is....HERE and NOW. If I understand what is being shown correctly then it is time for His watchmen to sound the alarm...
Numbers 10:9 And if ye go to war in your land against the enemy that oppresseth you, then ye shall blow an alarm with the trumpets; and ye shall be remembered before the LORD your God, and ye shall be saved from your enemies.
We are His soldiers, we are His watchmen…we are at war!
Ezekiel 33:3-7 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand. So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at My mouth, and warn them from Me.
The many markers of time we're given concerning the last days are.....3-1/2 days, 3-1/2 years, time, times and half a time, 42 months, 1260 days, 1,290 days, 1335 days, hour of temptation, 5 months, 70 years, 70 weeks, 40 years, 40 days, the deadly wound and ten days.
Among the things to consider is that all prophecy given in months is of Satan/lunar/darkness/night. And concerning Biblical days and years a factor is......
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
So, knowing that 3-1/2 Biblical days represents 3,500 years in the Lord's reckoning.....
Revelation 11:9-11 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
....we can consider the above passage to be representing 3,500 years. Those 3,500 years from 2009 AD would take us back to 1491 BC. That was the year the Lord brought the Israelites out of Egypt! The Exodus began on the first Passover of 1491 BC. So, 2009 is a time of great importance. The Lord brought the Israelites out of Egypt on that selfsame day...did it mark the time we too are brought out of Egypt...the selfsame day, 3,500 years later? As the Israelites spent forty years in the wilderness so has the woman, the church. And she/we are now experiencing an additional promised time of….three and one half years....but that time has been shortened!
Exodus 12:50-51 Thus did all the children of Israel; as the LORD commanded Moses and Aaron, so did they. And it came to pass the selfsame day that the LORD did bring the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt by their armies.
Numbers 33:3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians.
Numbers 33:3 And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians.
Then, in the third month, third day of the month after leaving Egypt (which Bullinger put as the 50th day, [Pentecost])....God "spake all these words" and gave us...the Ten Commandments. Our example of what will again happen?
Exodus 19:1,11 In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai. (11) And be ready against the third day; for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the People upon mount Sinai.
#3 ~ Divine Completeness and Perfection. Numbers in Scripture - E.W. Bullinger
In the above we see two mentions of "three." Third month and third day. The last third is missing...the third hour which shall bring Divine completeness and perfection. The third month, third day and third hour ~ 333. When shall that time happen for that third hour is, I believe, when He speaks to His elect. Before delving into that given time....
The above historical example of the Israelites points to His elect today. We too are called (out of Egypt/the world/Babylon)..."come out of her My people." [Rev.18:4]) Our eyes are opened to see Him at a given time just as they were long ago. He "comes down in the sight" of His children and we are given eyes to see, to understand!
If the (3,500 years/3-1/2 days) began in 1491 BC, the first Passover, then was its ending in 2009 AD a very specific marker of time for us? Do we have (Egypt/carnal desires) purged from our systems? Will we be able to cross into the promised land? What does He tell us about the (3-1/2 years, time, times and half a time, 1,260 days and the 42 months) written of in Revelation and Daniel?
Revelation 11:2-3,6 But the court which is without the Temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. And I will give power unto My two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. (6) These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
A clue we're given to understanding what time is being taught is, "it rain not in the days of their prophecy," referring to the (1,260 days, 3-1/2 years, 42 months) which I believe is....the 3,500 years beginning in 1491 BC. This time is not during the last days for we ARE given rain in those/these days...former and latter rain. Notice too that in the above passage they tread the court for forty-two months but below the wording has changed. The above time frame shown as (1,260 days, 42 months) is about the 3 1/2 days which is....3,500 years from 1491 BC to 2009. It is in the Lord's reckoning of time which is....the (3 1/2 days/3,500 years) of His timing. Then, it changes to our literal understanding.
The "they that tread" are those that are of the first beast of [Revelation 13], the one-world political system...
Revelation 13:5-9 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Paul warned us that "The mystery of iniquity doth already work," [2Thess.2:7] so we know that the beast has been at work for a long, long time as they tread upon the city, which simply means....they tread on God's children…for (42 months, 3,500 years) but at the end of that time, 2009...it is "given unto him to continue" for an additional "42 months."
From [Rev.11:9-11] we saw that throughout the (3-1/2 days...3,500 years) the many "two" witnesses have been at work, throughout the ages, testifying of God's Word but beginning at a specific point in 2009 we entered a new phase......
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His (saints/man child) are given "rain, the former rain" and then it is to be followed at another stage with the "latter rain" in the very end of days. This increased understanding is then taught to the "house of Israel,” who are Christians….so they, who are still in Egypt/Babylon..."stand on their feet" and walk out of her.
God's children stand, hear His voice and ascend to heaven...while still walking the earth. This ascension is spiritual and must take place before the end of the age or they are not of the first resurrection [Rev.20:6]
Revelation 11:12-15 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, "Come up hither." And they ascended up to heaven in a (the) cloud; and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. The second woe is past; and behold, the third woe cometh quickly. And the seventh angel sounded.........
"The same hour," I believe is Satan's hour of temptation [Rev.3:10] which isn't a literal hour but may refer to the time of his great tribulation, or a certain part of it. As he is given his hour to deceive....the man child is given the latter rain to bring in the harvest. Is Satan's "hour of temptation" the same time frame as God's "third hour," on the third month, third day?
The “city fell”...Babylon is fallen, fallen. [Rev.18:2] It doesn't mean she is destroyed...yet, but that she, a spiritual world-wide city, is a fallen woman, the habitation of devils! This is spiritual...her inhabitants have fallen to Satan and his deception.
Notice...it is "they" that hear the great voice...others won't. It is their "enemies" that are aware of this...others are not. It is also important to see what "earthquake" this is for there are two. The first great earthquake, in the above passage, is that of Satan, again mentioned here....
Revelation 6:12 (666) And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
That is the beginning of Satan's "great tribulation." We know it is his time, his earthquake, as...the seventh angel sounds after that, heralding the other "great earthquake." In Satan's time people are falling and being spiritually slain through deception. Note the difference in the next and final earthquake when....
Revelation 16:17-19 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.
When the seventh trumpet sounds...it is done. Then the great city is divided into three parts and....judged. Those were two different earthquakes with two different results. The division of the world-wide great city of Babylon is taught here....
Proverbs 2:21-22 For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it. But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.
The perfect remain and are not judged, for they came out of her, out of "great Babylon." The three-way division is between the upright, wicked and transgressors...all of whom receive the wrath of God.
Back to....the rest of the story in [Revelation 11]:
If the "two prophets that tormented them" are represented by Moses and Elijah, both of whom had works with these same times and events we're discussing and both of whom were shown on the mount of Transfiguration, then it is the Holy Word of God, the truth that torments them for Moses and Elijah were prophets of His Word. They are the "two prophets" but not the "two witnesses" for those "two" refer to two groups of many witnesses that speak as led by the Spirit as they testify of the written Word where the "two prophets," are found.
The many two witnesses are the "dead bodies" seen throughout the last 3,500 years and the last 1,260 days that are not placed in graves. How can that be? Because they/we have died to self! We are crucified with Him. As we are spiritually alive we are dead to our carnal nature yet are still encased in physical bodies. Dead and yet cannot be buried!
Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave Himself for me.
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave Himself for me.
We die to self, testify for Him wherever He sends us (family, church, forums, etc.) as we are figuratively killed by the misled, or the unbelievers, the blind leading the blind.
Revelation 11:7-8 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
This is the beast of [Revelation 13] that makes war against the many two witnesses and later...(the final 42 months) the dragon "went to make war with the remnant of her seed," [Rev.12:17] and they are...the man child. Notice the witnesses "finish" their testimony in each of the places God sends them before they are done away with. This is SPIRITUAL, not physical. Have many been literally killed in His name and will more meet this fate? Yes, but overall this is a spiritual war and the "killing" is being thrown out of a group, a church, a synagogue, being banned from a forum, brother against brother, families divided, etc., for teaching the true Word of the Lord just as Jesus warned us would happen.
John 16:1-3 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended. They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor Me.
The first beast of [Rev.13], the one-world system, was given an additional literal 42 months to "make war with the saints," and is joined with another....
Revelation 13:11-12 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
This "war with the saints," has, does now and will continue to happen until the very end...be not offended. Instead, we are to "turn the other cheek," and....
Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted His raiment, and cast lots.
Luke 21:17-18 And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake. But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
Luke 21:17-18 And ye shall be hated of all men for My name's sake. But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
The witnesses are already dead to self (their carnal nature is crucified) and Jesus dwells in them as they testify. His Spirit speaks through them. Their dead bodies, (dead to self bodies), cannot be buried for they still live physically and the testimony they gave LIVES in the minds of those that saw and heard, or in the case of forums.....in the minds of those that read the words. The flesh nature,"dead bodies," remain in the streets of the world (Egypt and Sodom) while they have been spiritually translated into His kingdom as they walk under the sun....
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son:
That translation is when they hear the great voice [Rev.11:12], when they are called to "come up hither." They spiritually ascend but physically walk the earth. Their enemies know this and "make war with the saints" but they no longer have "power" over them. His saints are the "stars of heaven," and are called.....by name:
Psalm 147:4 He telleth the number of the stars; He calleth them all by their names.
Isaiah 43:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and He that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art Mine.
Isaiah 45:3-4 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. For Jacob My servant's sake, and Israel Mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known Me.
John 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear His voice: and He calleth His own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
Isaiah 43:1 But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and He that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art Mine.
Isaiah 45:3-4 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel. For Jacob My servant's sake, and Israel Mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have surnamed thee, though thou hast not known Me.
Surnamed...given a title even before we knew Him.
John 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear His voice: and He calleth His own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
That, I believe, is the accounting of the time of prophesy of the witnesses in the wilderness....the 3 1/2 days...which is 3,500 years in the Lord's time, beginning in 1491 BC and ending in 2009. We know that time happens before the very last days as He tells us....
Luke 21:11-13 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. But BEFORE ALL THESE, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for My name's sake. And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
The time of (3 1/2 days/3500 years) may be finished and if so then we are in the last days, the (42 months/1,260 days/ 3 1/2 years). And, that time has been shortened!
There are other markers of time we're given to understand the last days, one of which is...seventy years!
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