I did not subtract nor add to scriptures in any post I made in this thread. So no amount of repeated false accusation coming from you would change that.
In
the referenced post I made to you, I wrote:
The word "choose" is not in 'and commanded YHWH God to the man, saying "Of every tree in the garden to eat you will be eating, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, not eating from, when in the day you are to eat of it to die you will be dying"' (Genesis 2:16-17), so you are adding choice into the Word of God; furthermore, a command of God is obeyed or disobeyed, so an action occurs, not a choice without explicit expression in the command of God, but fruit occurs.
Your denial of adding "choose" to scripture is proven false.
snip... Well, if a command of God does not have anything to do with obedience, which seems to be your take, perhaps you would be making a bit of sense. But nope,….there is not a bit of sense with such a position or take.
The command issued by the Creator in Genesis 2:16-17 reveals fruit of the creature; in other words, God's command exposes Adam's obedience or Adam's disobedience.
The command of God has something to do with Adam's obedience and/or Adam's disobedience.
The command of God states God's rule for Adam.
The command of God does not confer an ability to obey for Adam; furthermore, the command of God does not confer an ability to disobey for Adam.
Scripture reveals that Adam disobeyed God's command; therefore, scripture reveals Adam's ability to disobey God.
That was the single command issued by God to Adam, and Adam disobeyed; therefore, no account of Adam obeying a command of God exists in scripture.
No scripture reveals Adam's ability to obey God.
God did not say "you have the ability to obey" nor did God say "you have the ability to choose to obey".
In your heart, you added "you have the ability to obey" into the Word of God where it does not exist, SO HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF YOU ADDING TO THE WORD OF GOD.
I take your reasoning there to be flawed.
Since the Word of God does not say that man was imparted a free will, then you add man being imparted a free will into scripture.
There is no escaping your evil deed of adding to scripture.
And while you say that, you also said
“God did not say "you have the ability to obey"……..”
You contradict yourself, and have shown your reasoning to be flawed, if not, refuted. You self-destruct so to speak.
I intentionally put that in the post.
I figured Philippians 2:13 would expose your ability or inability to discern that Paul indicated God's control of the will of a person.
You showed your inability.
Paul referred to God working in persons whom God converts into God's children with the blessed gift of God's indwelling Holy Spirit (John 3:3-8), and we born of God have been given a new heart by our glorious Lord (Ezekiel 36:26).
Paul was specifically referring to God working in the children of God in Philippians 2:13.
Paul was NOT referring to the natural man (1 Corinthians 2:14) in Philippians 2:13.
God works a person's "will" (Philippians 2:13). In order for a person to "will" for God's good pleasure (Philippians 2:13), then the person must be in born of God (John 3:3-8).
God works a person to do "works" (Philippians 2:13). In order for a person to "work" for God's good pleasure (Philippians 2:13), then the person must be born of God (John 3:3-8).
Paul wrote Adam was a natural man (1 Corinthians 15:46).
No scripture states God was controling Adam's will to cause Adam to eat of the forbidden for food tree (rather,
as this post in this thread shows, God declares that Adam listened to the voice of his wife as the cause for Adam to eat of the tree (Genesis 3:17)).
Considering the above which God has me proclaiming to you, the following statement is scripturally accurate and logical:
God did not say to Adam "you have the ability to obey" nor did God say "you have the ability to choose to obey".
He did not. A simple quote of that passage clearly shows that.
20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
That is only your reading and does not necessarily follow that you are correct.
Again, that is only your reading and does not necessary follow that you are correct.
No sir.
Again, no sir. Your repeated false accusations will bring you nowhere sir nor will accomplish any good.
Your heart says "Adam" (Genesis 2:7) is not part of "the whole creation", and Paul wrote "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
Your heart says "tree" (Genesis 2:9) is not part of "the whole creation", and Paul wrote "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
Your heart says "ate" (Genesis 3:6) is not an event that occurred prior to "now", and Paul wrote "until now" in Romans 8:20-22.
Your heart says "not willingly" occurs without application to "the whole creation" and "until now", and Paul wrote "not willingly" and "the whole creation" and "until now" in Romans 8:20-22.
In "Adam ate not willingly of the tree", Paul covered "ate" which is an action in time of "until now" in Romans 8:20-22.
In "Adam ate not willingly of the tree", Paul covered "tree" which is a thing as part of "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
In "Adam ate not willingly of the tree", Paul covered "Adam" which is a person as part of "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
In "Adam ate not willingly of the tree", Paul covered "not willingly" in Romans 8:20-22.
Paul most certainly included "Adam ate not willingly of the tree" in Romans 8:20-22.
See that you subtract "ate" from "until now" in Romans 8:20-22.
See that you subtract "tree" from "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
See that you subtract "Adam" from "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
See that you subtract "not willingly" from Paul's application to "the whole creation" in Romans 8:20-22.
And, this, sir, is Romans 8:20-22 in context.
You proclaim "the word of you". For you adulterate the Word of God with "choose" such that it is no longer the Word of God.
Well, it is you, not scriptures, who was trying to show that Adam was not imparted free will and that no man thereafter ever was, in the OP. Scriptures is what holds to be true, not what you wrote in the OP.
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When you adulterate the Word of God with "choose" you commit a great sin against God for Jesus the Righteous says "you did not choose Me, but I chose you" (John 15:16) as well as "I chose you out of the world" (John 15:19, includes salvation).
Still, no free will written in the creation account (Genesis 1:1-31 Genesis 2:1- 25 Genesis 3:1-24), with Paul in accord for he conveyed that Adam "not willingly" ate of the tree since Paul included all time prior to Paul's birth by his writing "until now" (Romans 8:20-22).
Just as the original post shows richly in scripture, Adam was not imparted free will, and no man thereafter was imparted free will neither.
