What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?

[TonyChanYT]

According to God, Genesis 2:

17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

This is not just knowledge but knowledge of good and evil, i.e., knowledge of morality. Before the fall, everything was good according to their conscience provided by God alone. By definition, they could not think of a bad thought.

What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?

God did not want man to have this ability to decide on his own independently what was good and evil apart from God's standard. But the serpent had other ideas. It tempted Eve in Genesis 3:

5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

Right, they would be like God, having this ability to decide morality. However, their standard is not the same as God's.

The Hebrew word for "knowing" is H3045. It is a common word that appears 942 times.

Brown-Driver-Briggs:

know by experience

Adam and Eve would experience good and evil if they ate.

According to Eve:

6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise,

for obtaining wisdom,
Strong's 7919: To be, circumspect, intelligent

By eating, Adam and Eve would acquire their own abilities to decide what is good or bad, apart from God. And it happened right away:

she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. 7 Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.

At this point, they thought that it was bad to be naked which they didn't think about before they ate. Their consciences are now independent of God due to their 1st disobedience.

But have no fear; God will make the reconnection by the Paraclete.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Only after the fall were they like God.Knowing good and evil. Which made a distinct choice of disobedience prior to obtaining that knowledge, or obeying to avoid evil and maintain good,impossible.
Think about that.

Eve was set up.
By one man sin entered the world.

Where did it exist prior?
In Heaven. When Lucifer fell first.

 

[Randy Kluth]

According to God, Genesis 2:


This is not just knowledge but knowledge of good and evil, i.e., knowledge of morality. Before the fall, everything was good according to their conscience provided by God alone. By definition, they could not think of a bad thought.

What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?

God did not want man to have this ability to decide on his own independently what was good and evil apart from God's standard. But the serpent had other ideas. It tempted Eve in Genesis 3:


Right, they would be like God, having this ability to decide morality. However, their standard is not the same as God's.

The Hebrew word for "knowing" is H3045. It is a common word that appears 942 times.

Brown-Driver-Briggs:


Adam and Eve would experience good and evil if they ate.

According to Eve:


for obtaining wisdom,
Strong's 7919: To be, circumspect, intelligent

By eating, Adam and Eve would acquire their own abilities to decide what is good or bad, apart from God. And it happened right away:


At this point, they thought that it was bad to be naked which they didn't think about before they ate. Their consciences are now independent of God due to their 1st disobedience.

But have no fear; God will make the reconnection by the Paraclete.

So very well said!! And I would just add this. The pride that caused Man to fall, to in a sense "compete with God" in knowledge, is the same pride we have today, in thinking we can do anything without God. Whatever we do, religiously, comes across as strained, imitative, and empty of virtue--rote ritual. We need to look in a mirror and go back to the One Man left. How could we be so stupid!!

 

[BlessedPeace]

So very well said!! And I would just add this. The pride that caused Man to fall, to in a sense "compete with God" in knowledge, is the same pride we have today, in thinking we can do anything without God. Whatever we do, religiously, comes across as strained, imitative, and empty of virtue--rote ritual. We need to look in a mirror and go back to the One Man left. How could we be so stupid!!

Why did God create the forbidden fruit tree in the garden?
And afterward when gazing upon all he'd created called good.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Why did God create the forbidden fruit tree in the garden?
And afterward when gazing upon all he'd created called good.

I like the cartoon. God said everything was good in creation--it just had to be approached properly. A man should not call a dog a cat, and vice versa. He should not call a woman a man, and vice versa. His approach to the forbidden tree was disobedience. That does not make the tree evil. It does not mean God created it to seduce man, as the Devil seduced man. God's creation of Satan did not implicate God in Satan's evil choices. God gave him a free will, to be used in an obedient way. That was good. Evil describes the abuse of what God created. The Forbidden Tree was a test in light of the fact God knew Satan would try to seduce Man.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I like the cartoon. God said everything was good in creation--it just had to be approached properly. A man should not call a dog a cat, and vice versa. He should not call a woman a man, and vice versa. His approach to the forbidden tree was disobedience. That does not make the tree evil. It does not mean God created it to seduce man, as the Devil seduced man. God's creation of Satan did not implicate God in Satan's evil choices. God gave him a free will, to be used in an obedient way. That was good. Evil describes the abuse of what God created. The Forbidden Tree was a test in light of the fact God knew Satan would try to seduce Man.

And God's Omniscient nature knew he would succeed.

 

[Bob Estey]

According to God, Genesis 2:


This is not just knowledge but knowledge of good and evil, i.e., knowledge of morality. Before the fall, everything was good according to their conscience provided by God alone. By definition, they could not think of a bad thought.

What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?

God did not want man to have this ability to decide on his own independently what was good and evil apart from God's standard. But the serpent had other ideas. It tempted Eve in Genesis 3:


Right, they would be like God, having this ability to decide morality. However, their standard is not the same as God's.

The Hebrew word for "knowing" is H3045. It is a common word that appears 942 times.

Brown-Driver-Briggs:


Adam and Eve would experience good and evil if they ate.

According to Eve:


for obtaining wisdom,
Strong's 7919: To be, circumspect, intelligent

By eating, Adam and Eve would acquire their own abilities to decide what is good or bad, apart from God. And it happened right away:


At this point, they thought that it was bad to be naked which they didn't think about before they ate. Their consciences are now independent of God due to their 1st disobedience.

But have no fear; God will make the reconnection by the Paraclete.

I don't claim to understand the passage, but let me give it a shot: When God told us not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, perhaps he was telling us no to judge others.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I don't claim to understand the passage, but let me give it a shot: When God told us not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, perhaps he was telling us no to judge others.

Then he would have contradicted himself when he told us later on to use righteous judgment when we judge others.

We will judge the angels. But we aren't to judge among ourselves?

 

[Bob Estey]

Then he would have contradicted himself when he told us later on to use righteous judgment when we judge others.

We will judge the angels. But we aren't to judge among ourselves?

[1] "Judge not, that you be not judged.
[2] For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
[3] Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
[4] Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?
[5] You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." Matthew 7:1-5 RSV

 

[ScottA]

According to God, Genesis 2:


This is not just knowledge but knowledge of good and evil, i.e., knowledge of morality. Before the fall, everything was good according to their conscience provided by God alone. By definition, they could not think of a bad thought.

What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?

God did not want man to have this ability to decide on his own independently what was good and evil apart from God's standard. But the serpent had other ideas. It tempted Eve in Genesis 3:


Right, they would be like God, having this ability to decide morality. However, their standard is not the same as God's.

The Hebrew word for "knowing" is H3045. It is a common word that appears 942 times.

Brown-Driver-Briggs:


Adam and Eve would experience good and evil if they ate.

According to Eve:


for obtaining wisdom,
Strong's 7919: To be, circumspect, intelligent

By eating, Adam and Eve would acquire their own abilities to decide what is good or bad, apart from God. And it happened right away:


At this point, they thought that it was bad to be naked which they didn't think about before they ate. Their consciences are now independent of God due to their 1st disobedience.

But have no fear; God will make the reconnection by the Paraclete.

On the contrary--none of the events of the so-called fall were by accident or not according to the will of God.

Isaiah 45:7​

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.​

In truth, "the knowledge of good and evil", is the means by which God has planned to bring his chosen into himself...as One, without which we would otherwise remain "lower than the angels." But no, the plan of God is that "the two shall become one" as Bride and Groom.

 

[BlessedPeace]

[1] "Judge not, that you be not judged.
[2] For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
[3] Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
[4] Or how can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye?
[5] You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." Matthew 7:1-5 RSV

You did not seek out the righteous judgment passage.

You judge Everytime you reply in disagreement with a post.
We judge those who are lost when we then presume to lead them to Christ.

 

[Bob Estey]

You did not seek out the righteous judgment passage.

You judge Everytime you reply in disagreement with a post.
We judge those who are lost when we then presume to lead them to Christ.

You can't cancel out something Jesus said with another passage.

 

[BlessedPeace]

You can't cancel out something Jesus said with another passage.

No,you can't. But you tried.

 

[Bob Estey]

No,you can't. But you tried.

I try to obey Jesus, who said, "Judge not, that you be not judged," and you find fault in me for that that, but I will try to continue to obey Jesus.

 

[BlessedPeace]

I try to obey Jesus, who said, "Judge not, that you be not judged," and you find fault in me for that that, but I will try to continue to obey Jesus.

I don't think you'd ignore the other passages then.

 

[Bob Estey]

I don't think you'd ignore the other passages then.

Like I said, you cancel Matthew 7:1-5 with something else.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Like I said, you cancel Matthew 7:1-5 with something else.

No.

That "something else" you ignore cancels your point when you have chosen to ignore it.


Btw, you've judged me since you started replying to me.

 

[Peterlag]

According to God, Genesis 2:


This is not just knowledge but knowledge of good and evil, i.e., knowledge of morality. Before the fall, everything was good according to their conscience provided by God alone. By definition, they could not think of a bad thought.

What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?

God did not want man to have this ability to decide on his own independently what was good and evil apart from God's standard. But the serpent had other ideas. It tempted Eve in Genesis 3:


Right, they would be like God, having this ability to decide morality. However, their standard is not the same as God's.

The Hebrew word for "knowing" is H3045. It is a common word that appears 942 times.

Brown-Driver-Briggs:


Adam and Eve would experience good and evil if they ate.

According to Eve:


for obtaining wisdom,
Strong's 7919: To be, circumspect, intelligent

By eating, Adam and Eve would acquire their own abilities to decide what is good or bad, apart from God. And it happened right away:


At this point, they thought that it was bad to be naked which they didn't think about before they ate. Their consciences are now independent of God due to their 1st disobedience.

But have no fear; God will make the reconnection by the Paraclete.

Nobody knows what they ate because the Bible does not tell us so we cannot know. So we guess. Well, we know it was not an apple. My educated guess is that they gave God back their spirit. This left man kind in a position to need to get spirit back. And then there's when God told them if you do this you will die. Well, the spirit seems to be tied to everlasting life. Not the body and not our soul (unless you're Catholic). Giving up the spirit could put them in a position to know evil. Adam and Eve were created to have the spirit of God. A dog was created to function without the spirit of God and so dogs are normal in the way they function. But humans are missing something and therefore not complete if we do not function with the spirit of God. It would be considered broken if it were a car that was missing a part because it would be incomplete since it would be missing a necessary part. Could it be the spirit that Adam and Eve gave up that caused them to be broken, to have missed the mark, and to deliberately do such a thing was considered sin?

 

[TonyChanYT]

This left man kind in a position to need to get spirit back.

Right, that's why we need to be born again. See What does it mean to be born from above?

 

[Taken]

What was wrong with Adam and Eve knowing good and evil?
Thread Title ^

They were unprepared to face evil.

Although in adult body’s they were as babes.
Same as Scripture teaches to teach little children…TRUTH First…
Thus prepared to face evil, and not fall for trickery.