Tucker Carlson in Moscow to interview Vladimir Putin

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Lizbeth

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China has been working far, far harder than russia to divide America.

The primary enemy of the US is china and in the end china is the enemy of all countries since the communists exist for world domination. Everyone seems to forget that.
Very true. I can't fathom how we just keep helping them to get stronger by continuing to do mega-dollars worth of business with them...even depending on them for necessities like medicines. I feel like we are just a hair's breadth away from judgment.........the same judgments that befell Israel for the same sins, which we are supposed to take warning from.

If only the church would walk away from all the nonsense and fluff and return to the true gospel, and repent of all the sin in the camp and start taking God seriously again.....He is not some teddy bear in the sky and He takes sin seriously. If my people who are called by my name.......
 

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Trump is (as I see) a Lord God loving believer.

Trump is not a born again believer.

Who knows the heart of a man, but the man himself and God?

1 Cor 2:
[11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

You are neither Trump or God.
 

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Trump is (as I see) a Lord God loving believer.



Who knows the heart of a man, but the man himself and God?

1 Cor 2:
[11] For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

You are neither Trump or God.

Donald Trump’s conduct in his private life isn’t consistent with being a Christian. If he were a sincere Christian, he wouldn’t have betrayed all three of his wives. Unlike Obama, who was a church-going Christian, I haven’t seen any evidence of Trump ever going to church. Nor have I heard him publicly talk about his “faith,” assuming he has any.

Let’s presume for one moment that Donald Trump is a Christian, unbelievable as that sounds. Here is a relevant quote from Matthew 7:21: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”

I get that you support Trump and agree with his political views. Why do you feel the need to project your religiosity onto him? You can like Trump and agree with him all you want, but you should at least be honest about his absence of faith.
 

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Unlike Obama, who was a church-going Christian
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He speaks too favorably about islam to be a Christian and he went out of his way to do things that benefited islamic nations when he was pres.

Matthew 7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits.

You don't think Jesus would lie about this, would ya?


I haven’t seen any evidence of Trump ever going to church. Nor have I heard him publicly talk about his “faith,” assuming he has any.

He's trying to get votes, so he has gone to church and to church functions and does claim to be a Christian that has a great relationship with God.

If you spend some time searching on utubes you'll see him saying stuff like this in some of his interviews.
 

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A month and a half ago I created a thread in the debate forum asking how conservative Evangelicals can vote for Trump when he is a deeply sinful man

The explanation is profoundly simple. It is not about the man but public policy.

This is why all the attacks against him don't lower his polling numbers. His enemies are barking up the wrong tree. If you want the public to support another candidate, explain how their public policy positions are even better for America than Trumps MAGA. You cannot.

When Wrangler replied to the thread, the first thing he did was basically call me irrational and stupid. In his words, he said I was “emotionally driven,” which was a poorly-written way of insulting my intelligence.
Pointing out the fact that you are emotionally driven is not any kind of insult. That you take it so AND say so shows how very emotionally driven you are.

If you were not emotionally driven, you would have used the experience as a cause for self-reflection. Can you even admit that your question to Evangelics was not to learn but to shame (itself, an emotional appeal)?
 
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Matthew 7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits.

You don't think Jesus would lie about this, would ya?

To be CLEAR…I said nothing Against Jesus!


Fruit is the result of an action.

Trump LIKE ALL people, encompass multiple roles in their Lives.

Your connection to Trump is limited. He is not your family, your neighbor, your personal acquaintance, your employer, etc.

He WAS your Representative Presidential Servant in a Federal Republic, and again is seeking the same Service Position.

His FRUIT as it affected you WAS ONLY per his former Presidential Service…TO WHICH you are MAKING zero Complaint.

Glory to God,
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Not sure what you find funny about the justification for peace but it reveals you to be a war monger.

To the contrary. I think their laughter,though dismissive toward your points,is reactionary. This due to the statement you made about Russia wants peace with the West and NATO, (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) , even more than with Ukraine.

That was an uninformed statement. Having no relativity whatsoever with Russia's actual agenda.
Ad Homenim. As ignorant as I apparently am, the war mongers have not spelled out the justification for peace.

You are like a broken record, "Russia", "Russia", "Russia". Ever consider the globalist's (NATO & Left's) actual agenda with provoking Russia AND war mongering by giving Ukraine the means to continue its own destruction?

I'm typing this slowly in the hopes it will help you understand it better ... Russia is willing to negotiate an end to the war. Ukraine and the global elite are NOT willing to negotiate an end to the war. Blessed are the peace makers - not the war mongers.
 

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Donald Trump’s conduct in his private life isn’t consistent with being a Christian.
Bark! Bark! Bark!

Keep barking up the wrong tree! Orange man bad. Orange man bad. Orange man bad.

It's all about public policy 1st. Why is the death of 400K Ukranians OK with you? If you were a peacemaker, your discernment would be able to think in terms of justification for peace.
 

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@Wrangler

American’s at large are ignorant of History…American and World History. The FAUX news outlets have become their 24-7 repeated hour by hour, indoctrination source for FALSE information.

News Agencies USED to be outlets that simply reported Local and World Factual Happenings for Awareness to Locals or World Wide events that may be something for the Local Community or National Community to be Prepared for, Cautious.

Now it is a 24-7 Propaganda Indoctrination Tool and tit for tat Gossip Fest….and everyone knows it!

If American’s are spending their time POINTING at Putin…the INTENT is to DEFLECT their eyes, and finger pointing AWAY from their OWN failing, incompetent, squatter IN the American People’s Highest Office.
 
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Matthew 7:16
Ye shall know them by their fruits.

You don't think Jesus would lie about this, would ya?

So you must have forgot about all the accomplishments that Trump did while in office. He has plenty of fruit.

Time for some Rosmary tea again!
 

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Ad Homenim. As ignorant as I apparently am, the war mongers have not spelled out the justification for peace.

You are like a broken record, "Russia", "Russia", "Russia". Ever consider the globalist's (NATO & Left's) actual agenda with provoking Russia AND war mongering by giving Ukraine the means to continue its own destruction?

I'm typing this slowly in the hopes it will help you understand it better ... Russia is willing to negotiate an end to the war. Ukraine and the global elite are NOT willing to negotiate an end to the war. Blessed are the peace makers - not the war mongers.

Not an adhominem at all.

Pacifists never see a reason for war. If they're also American they are terribly uninformed. And ungrateful for the sacrifice of those who made this country free.Even today.

You really should read the Old Testament. It is amazing how many Christians don't. By the judgement of some here they could judge God to be a warmonger.
 

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Not an adhominem at all.

Pacifists never see a reason for war.
Pure Ad Homenim. You wrote

due to the statement you made about Russia wants peace with the West and NATO, (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) , even more than with Ukraine.

That was an uninformed statement. Having no relativity whatsoever with Russia's actual agenda.

Notice how you are not on record with what Russia's actual agenda is? You are in the know while claiming people who actually listened to Putin are "uninformed."

Again, I've flipped the script. You say Pacifists never see a reason for war. I say war mongers never see a reason for peace. The difference between Putin and I from you, @Marymog and @Saint of Light is that Jesus said blessed are the peace makers - not war mongers.
 

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Pure Ad Homenim. You wrote



Notice how you are not on record with what Russia's actual agenda is? You are in the know while claiming people who actually listened to Putin are "uninformed."
You don't approve being told you are uninformed. You are not. You wrongly claimed Russia wants peace with Ukraine. That is untrue.

Therefore, when you do not know this you are uninformed as to the actual facts.

That is ignorance. Not an adhominem.
Again, I've flipped the script. You say Pacifists never see a reason for war. I say war mongers never see a reason for peace. The difference between Putin and I from you, @Marymog and @Saint of Light is that Jesus said blessed are the peace makers - not war mongers.
You just flipped my post. And proved my point.
Thank you for that .
 

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So you must have forgot about all the accomplishments that Trump did while in office. He has plenty of fruit.

If you think the good works men do on their own apart from Him earns salvation... you be mistaken and faking the bacon agree.gif

Just because one had a few good policies in secular government does not impress the Lord.

Besides, the Lord very obviously did not back Trump's re-election bid so that's why Trump lost in 2020

If Trump would have had the Lord's backing in 2020 then all the chicanery in the world would not have stopped him from being re-elected.
 

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Besides, the Lord very obviously did not back Trump's re-election bid so that's why Trump lost in 2020

If Trump would have had the Lord's backing in 2020 then all the chicanery in the world would not have stopped him from being re-elected.

You have no way of knowing what were and were not God's plans! I was disappointed but I also understood that there was a lot of evil & deception going on right then. It might have been a delaying tactic, or maybe Trump running two consecutive terms was never in His plans?

I don't know. You don't know. He'll be back this year though! I feel it coming. Do you pray for the man? His Family? I do. He needs our prayers and support. Even scripture tells you to pray for your leaders.
 

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You have no way of knowing what were and were not God's plans! I was disappointed but I also understood that there was a lot of evil & deception going on right then. It might have been a delaying tactic, or maybe Trump running two consecutive terms was never in His plans?

I don't know. You don't know. He'll be back this year though! I feel it coming. Do you pray for the man? His Family? I do. He needs our prayers and support. Even scripture tells you to pray for your leaders.

Daniel 2:21
And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:


I doubt he'll win because the majority of this nation's people eithe reject the Lord altogether or they are following a false jesus and false gospel.

In order for the one world government to come forth, the US must be a side note of history and no longer a leader on the world stage as we used to be. It's easy to see the downfall of the US since most of our leaders are evil, which is a by product of a nation that has rejected the Lord.

And, let's not forget what Jesus said which is another very compelling reason to expect the US to either fail altogether or become completely irrelevant on the world stage or both...

Mark 3:24
And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
 

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From the grocery store to the Metro Station..... Compare this with our Subways.