The First Law

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

You are looking at the words "bless" and "command" but I see the words "said" and "saying". How does God command? Is it not by saying something?? Is it not by telling you something??

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Rex · Nov 18, 2012

Selene said:
Where in my post did I even say that "command" and "bless" are the same word? You are looking at the words "bless" and "command" but I see the words "said" and "saying". How does God command? Is it not by saying something?? Is it not by telling you something??

Right here and you went a bit farther you imply "a word" command doesn't even need to exists for a blessing to be a command.
I'll simple point to the COMMAND not to eat.

Selene said:
When God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply, that is also a command. One does not need to see the word "command" or "order" to know this. Whatever God tells a person to do is a command for that person to do. So, when He told Noah and his children to be fruitful and multiply after the flood.....that is a command. It is not an instruction because it is something that must be done otherwise the human race will not survive.

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

In other words, whatever God says is a command. Whatever He tells you to do is what should be done. So, when God said to be fruitful and multiply.....He means just that. And when God says, do not eat from that tree....He means just that. They are both commands from Him, and our role is to be obedient to what He says or tells us to do.

Rex · Nov 18, 2012

Selene said:
[font=lucida sans unicode']You are looking at the words "bless" and "command" but I see the words "said" and "saying". How does God command? Is it not by saying something?? Is it not by telling you something?? [/font]

I do as well, to note who is speaking the words, that would be God

Have a good day with your private vocabulary

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

Rex said:
Right here and you went a bit farther you imply "a word" command doesn't even need to exists for a blessing to be a command.
I'll simple point to the COMMAND not to eat.

Brother Rex, I stated the following in my post: (See Post #15). I did not use the word "blessing".

One does not need to see the word "command" or "order" to know this.

Angelina · Nov 18, 2012

There is no-where else in the OT during the days of Adam that the word "command" was ever used by God other than the command not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Would you completely ignore this fact even though the whole world plunged into darkness because of Adams disobedience? :huh:

You are cherry picking various points of the bible to bring them into line with your doctrine which is a great err... :huh:

Shalom!!!

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

Angelina said:
There is no-where else in the OT during the days of Adam that the word "command" was ever used by God other than the command not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Would you completely ignore this fact even though the whole world plunged into darkness because of Adams disobedience? :huh:

Whatever God says or tells you to do is already a command. And our role is to be obedient to what He says. By saying that God's first command was not to eat from the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, one would then be diminishing what He told Adam and Eve in multiplying the earth. Everything that God tells us to do should be adhered to. It is His will that we should follow. And when following His will, it is not a matter of choosing, but a matter of doing all of it. One cannot say, "Okay, I won't eat that fruit because God commanded me not to eat it, but I don't need to be fruitful and multiply because that isn't His command." That is not how it should be done. It is not a pick and choose thing. God's will is to be followed....that means everything He says must be followed.

Rex · Nov 18, 2012

Selene said:
Brother Rex, I stated the following in my post: (See Post #15). I did not use the word "blessing".

People like you amaze me, you strain at the gnat "see above", about a word that is clearly implied.
Yet you seek to insist that in context of the entire statements that the word command is implied in denoting the speaker.

I don't even know why I'm writing this so I'm going to stop, I see you have already reiterated your position,
This is not a conversation, I'm not going to continue a childish no its not, yes it is with you.

Latter

Angelina · Nov 18, 2012

Your words are meaningless in the light of the truth of God's word. God's command is law. When Adam broke that command, he broke the law. The consequences of breaking that command plunged the world into darkness. Two thousand or more years ago...God's planned redemption of this fall took place in the form of Christ death on the cross. That is all that matters here. Adam broke a direct command from God and he sent his Son to redeem us through his blood because there is no-other greater sacrifice that could have been acceptable other than the blood of his only begotten Son...Jesus our redeemer and saviour of the world... ^_^

Be Blessed and Shalom!!!

Rex · Nov 18, 2012

In the future it will be interesting to see what other liberties you take Selen

The point here has been made

So please have the last word, take your prize Proverbs 14:18

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

It's amazing to see all that people actually think they can pick and choose what God tells them to do. If they feel it's not a command, they don't need to follow it? For me....EVERYTHING that God SAYS should be obeyed and is therefore a command.

Rex said:
People like you amaze me, you strain at the gnat "see above", about a word that is clearly implied.
Yet you seek to insist that in context of the entire statements that the word command is implied in denoting the speaker.

I don't even know why I'm writing this so I'm going to stop, I see you have already reiterated your position,
This is not a conversation, I'm not going to continue a childish no its not, yes it is with you.

Latter

I don't know why you're writing it as well. It makes no sense to me at all.

Rex said:
In the future it will be interesting to see what other liberties you take Selen

The point here has been made

So please have the last word, take your prize Proverbs 14:18

You seem to take what I say personally. I don't know why. All I'm saying is that God's first command was telling Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. If you feel that whatever God tells you to do is something you don't need to obey just because the word "command" is not there, then that is your choice.

Rex · Nov 18, 2012

Do as thou will Selene, and let every man read and discover the truth for themselves as we have done.

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

Rex said:
Do as thou will Selene, and let every man read and discover the truth for themselves as we have done.

Brother Rex, this is a public forum board. You can disagree with me all you want. It does not bother me. If I disagree with you, I will say so and tell you my reasons for it. If you don't like what I say....that is your problem.....not mine.

God bless.

Rex · Nov 18, 2012

Good night Selene

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

Rex said:
Good night Selene

Good night Brother Rex.

jiggyfly · Nov 18, 2012

Selene said:
Children are a gift from God. Therefore, if a woman is unable to bear any children, it is God's will. As for the nuns who chose not to have children, they are also following God's will. The nuns who are called chose not to marry and have children because they devote their entire life to serving God. These people are already living the kind of life that we will all soon live in God's kingdom because in Heaven there will be no human marriage. It will be a marriage only between Christ and His Church.

Got any scriptures to support your opinion? You can't have it both ways. How is a command to Adam and Noah considered a command to everyone except Catholic nuns and priests? Sounds like just more religious do's and don'ts.

Have you any scripture(s) that state Christ will marry His body???

Selene · Nov 18, 2012

jiggyfly said:
Got any scriptures to support your opinion? You can't have it both ways. How is a command to Adam and Noah considered a command to everyone except Catholic nuns and priests? Sounds like just more religious do's and don'ts.

Have you any scripture(s) that state Christ will marry His body???

In the Old Testament, God told the prophet Jeremiah not to marry nor have any children.

Jeremiah 16:1-2 The word of the LORD came also unto me, saying, Thou shalt not take thee a wife, neither shalt thou have sons or daughters in this place.

In the New Testament, Jesus recognized that even some people were called not to marry.

Matthew 19:12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

As for the marriage between Christ and the Church, that is found in Revelations 19:7-9

Revelations 19:7-9 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

jiggyfly · Nov 19, 2012

Selene said:
In the Old Testament, God told the prophet Jeremiah not to marry nor have any children.

Jeremiah 16:1-2 The word of the LORD came also unto me, saying, Thou shalt not take thee a wife, neither shalt thou have sons or daughters in this place.

In the New Testament, Jesus recognized that even some people were called not to marry.

Matthew 19:12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

As for the marriage between Christ and the Church, that is found in Revelations 19:7-9

Revelations 19:7-9 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed [are] they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Still don't see the command to Adam and Eve as a law that applies to us all.

See no mention of the body of Christ in the scripture you quoted, so how did you come up with this assumption?

Angelina · Nov 19, 2012

This topic had been edited due to deterioration of the O/P. I think that any further arguments do not serve any purpose nor does it bring God any glory. Either God's word is wrong or man's understanding of his word is wrong...I'm sure that people reading this can decide for themselves. Topic Locked

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