Noahs flood NOT worldwide ???

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Gen 7:
19 .. and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:
1..and God made a wind to pass over the earth,
and the waters asswaged;
3..and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4..And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month,
upon the mountains of Ararat. << 5km high
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If the water PREVAILED at 15 cubits above the highest mountains for 6 months it would have had to overflow somewhere if it was just a local flood
Remember 15 cubits over the highest mountains = FAR FAR FAR FAR much more over lower mountains & low lying areas.
Mt Ararat is 5 km's above sea lea.
So where does a minimum 5km high flood water for 6 months overflow flow to ?
Sounds like a WORLDWIDE flood to me.
Thoughts ?
 
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Can we be sure it covered Mt Everest at an elevation of 8,849m? They weren't near the Himalayas so how would they know?

The highest human habitation today is at over 5,000m in Peru and Tibet. Other animals wouldn't be living much higher. Maybe thats all that was needed to wipe out life on earth. Who knows...

But if we're wondering where all the water went maybe this video has a good explanation

 
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I like to think about the proof we have from all parts of the globe that there was a flood of epic proportions !



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Gen 7:
19 .. and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:
1..and God made a wind to pass over the earth,
and the waters asswaged;
3..and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4..And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month,
upon the mountains of Ararat. << 5km high
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If the water PREVAILED at 15 cubits above the highest mountains for 6 months it would have had to overflow somewhere if it was just a local flood
Remember 15 cubits over the highest mountains = FAR FAR FAR FAR much more over lower mountains & low lying areas.
Mt Ararat is 5 km's above sea lea.
So where does a minimum 5km high flood water for 6 months overflow flow to ?
Sounds like a WORLDWIDE flood to me.
Thoughts ?
The entire thing is supernatural.
Yes worldwide flood.

Mentally impossible.
Possible with God.

He is so awesome.
So able
So powerful.
So good to us.

He flooded the earth to save it.
 

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Can we be sure it covered Mt Everest at an elevation of 8,849m? They weren't near the Himalayas so how would they know?

The highest human habitation today is at over 5,000m in Peru and Tibet. Other animals wouldn't be living much higher. Maybe thats all that was needed to wipe out life on earth. Who knows...

But if we're wondering where all the water went maybe this video has a good explanation

AoG >> ""Can we be sure it covered Mt Everest at an elevation of 8,849m? ""
Good point if the Bible stated 15 cubits only over Mt Ararat.
Gen 7 states otherwise :-
17And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.
18And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
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Yet it wasn't until the 10th month before mountain tops were visible.
Gen 8:5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
 
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I err on the side of a global flood for the following reasons:
  • It would make no sense for God to tell Noah to build an ark and preserve the animals if it was a local flood. It would have been much easier to tell them to relocate to higher ground.
  • ark rested on the mountains of Ararat. Water flows down, not up. The only way the ark would have ended up in the mountains was if it was a global flood. Plus, a local flood would not have raised flood water that high.
  • God made a promise that he would never flood the earth again (Gen 9:8–17), but there have been many local floods since that time.
  • Nearly every ancient civilization on earth has a flood tradition. Many details are similar to Noah's Flood, which would make sense if they had a common origin. This to me is circumstantial proof of a global flood as only something as catastrophic as a global flood would leave such an impression on humanity.
Some wonder where all that water went. I don't think it went anywhere and forms the oceans we have today. About 71% of the earth is covered in water. That's a lot of water. It's possible before the flood, there was more land and far less water.
 
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Its also in the Book of Enoch {1} if you would like to look.Giving a more detailed account if you are to believe it .
The book of Enoch is not part of the bible.
 
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Gen 7:
19 .. and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Gen 8:
1..and God made a wind to pass over the earth,
and the waters asswaged;
3..and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4..And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month,
upon the mountains of Ararat. << 5km high
View attachment 81873


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If the water PREVAILED at 15 cubits above the highest mountains for 6 months it would have had to overflow somewhere if it was just a local flood
Remember 15 cubits over the highest mountains = FAR FAR FAR FAR much more over lower mountains & low lying areas.
Mt Ararat is 5 km's above sea lea.
So where does a minimum 5km high flood water for 6 months overflow flow to ?
Sounds like a WORLDWIDE flood to me.
Thoughts ?

Noahs flood NOT worldwide ???

Yes, world wide.

I believe:
… the Water existed first.
… God gathered the waters together causing…”Earth” ( Dry Land ) to appear, and the Earth, was primarily one Mass.

… The Flood, ( Punishment ) Great Tribulation because of Gods anger, for mens stubbornness to Believe, and crude behaviors.

… The Flood Waters, came upon the Earth…from TWO Places.
* Rain…flood / and by default per weather some amounts also evaporates…becomes mist.
* Deep Oceans ( called fountains of the deep) from Under the Earth, that moved upward to add more water upon the Earth.

After the Entire Land was covered…the Ark with Noah, 7 others, and animals high up in clouds Above the Earth…
- a time of passing…
- THEN God caused Strong Winds to blow and assuage (move the waters back to the deep valleys under the Earth).
- valleys, crevices on land, (I suspect) made seas, rivers, streams…
- And under water shifts beginning the shifts of dividing the continents over a period of years.

Modern days, Scientists are discovering massive Oceans under the Earth.

Glory to God,
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Can we be sure it covered Mt Everest at an elevation of 8,849m? They weren't near the Himalayas so how would they know?

The highest human habitation today is at over 5,000m in Peru and Tibet. Other animals wouldn't be living much higher. Maybe thats all that was needed to wipe out life on earth. Who knows...

But if we're wondering where all the water went maybe this video has a good explanation


Petrified rocks of the Giants and the abominations that were created from/by them, as a result from the great flood. Destroyed by God.



It is astonishing.

There's more videos of these than the ones I'm showing.
 
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Noahs flood NOT worldwide ???

Yes World Wide.

I believe:
“Earth” Dry Land…
Was originally What is Described as LAND singular, not Land(S)…

That…the FLOOD, covered ALL of the LAND, exceeding ABOVE the Highest Points of LAND.

That…the entire population of Humans ON the Earth… were Drowned, Dead…
With the Exception of Eight Faithful Humans, in an Ark, Saved by being Risen UPON the face of the Water, IN the Clouds.

God controls the Weather and elements (wind, rain, snow, ice, earthquakes, volcanos, etc.) of Weather that Affects the LAND-scape…

Today, we can See Evidence of landscape “changes”… valleys pooling, creating rivers, lakes…and rivers, lakes drying up…
Shorelines, expanding, contracting.
Small islands appearing, from underwater mountain tops.
Visible Majestic Mountains and their tops reaching into the Clouds.
Underwater Dirt Masses Drifting apart.
Underwater Dirt Masses Colliding.

Spiritual Works of a Spiritual God continuously Evidencing His Power for Created Humans TO See.

Glory to God,
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Petrified rocks of the Giants and the abominations that were created from/by them, as a result from the great flood. Destroyed by God.



It is astonishing.

There's more videos of these than the ones I'm showing.

Fossils of giants have been found in the past but they hid them from us. Why? Because science is inherently atheist and they don't want to show something that confirms biblical claims

 
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I believe the food of Noah actually happened, there are religious clubs and organizations that have much dislike for the word of God.

In a newspaper """ Rome daily Il Messaggero. '""" '
The Pope Says We May Descend From Monkeys,''


The headline ">>> The Pope Says We May Descend From Monkeys" was published by the conservative Italian newspaper Il Giornale on October 24–25, 1996...... the Pope continued to state that new findings had made it necessary to recognize that evolution is "more than a hypothesis


Pope John Paul II has put the teaching authority of the Roman Catholic Church firmly behind the view that the human body may not have been the immediate creation of God, but is the product of a gradual process of evolution.


Regarding the worldwide flood of Noah's Ark, the official Catholic position allows for interpretation rather than mandating a strictly literal, global interpretation: No Mandatory Literalism: The Catholic Church does not prohibit Catholics from believing in a worldwide flood, but it also does not require it - nor promote or defend it


Its just not something the Catholic Church will defend when it comes down to defending the Bible and standing on God's word and accepting it is truth.


aproX over 9095%—of Jesuits, along with mainstream Catholic theologians refuse to face and stand up against the world of Evolution Theory

The official stance of things regarding a world wide flood and the theory of evolution for the Catholic Church is to reject the realism and literalism of the Bible while promoting a denial of a worldwide flood

even promoting a denial and rejection of a literal 6 day creation

Pope Benedict XVI said the rigid, often polarized debate between creationism and evolution—specifically the view that they are mutually exclusive—as an “absurdity”.

Pope Benedict XVI continued saying that evolution CAN coexist with faith.


Also, Sep of 2008 — The Vatican said on a Tuesday the theory of evolution WAS compatible with the Bible.

John Paul said, “ we should speak of several theories of evolution.” as “different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution” and different “philosophies” upon which the theory of evolution is based.

The Fatican makes it fairly clear that it ......... sees no reason why God could not have used a natural evolutionary process in the forming of the human species.
 

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Can we be sure it covered Mt Everest at an elevation of 8,849m? They weren't near the Himalayas so how would they know?

The highest human habitation today is at over 5,000m in Peru and Tibet. Other animals wouldn't be living much higher. Maybe thats all that was needed to wipe out life on earth. Who knows...

But if we're wondering where all the water went maybe this video has a good explanation

"Yes a global flood"

Down to the very insects was God's breath of life

Do insects need oxygen? "YES"

Yes, insects need oxygen to survive, as it is essential for cellular respiration, which provides energy for their bodily functions. They obtain oxygen through a network of tubes called tracheae that deliver it directly to their tissues.

Iowa State University Arizona State University

Do insects live on the high elevations of Mt. Everest? "YES"

Yes, Mount Everest is home to certain insects, such as the Himalayan jumping spider, which has been found at elevations as high as 6,700 meters. These insects have adapted to survive in the extreme conditions of the mountain.

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Genesis 7:22-24KJV
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
 
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It's debated between global or not.

You decide for yourself.

It doesn't make you any less of a believer in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus right?
 

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The land before the flood was flat and water came from the ground. Genesis 2:6. During the flood God created the mountains. All the waters receded to the N. Pole and S. Poles. Job 37:10