Are angels genderless?

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I believe that angels are women who took the form of menand those who left their proper dwellings are male."That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels."(1 Corinthians 11:10)
If I may, allow me to quote it from the King James - For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.A woman should have her head covered because of the angels....not the good angels but the fallen angels. They are coming again and it will be as in the days of Noah. They will be "taking" women. Her covering should be the Word of God as it alone will protect her.
" their hair like women's hair, and their teeth like lions' teeth;"(Revelation 9:8)
Again, this has to do with the fallen angels. They will appear soft and wonderful...as a woman but they will rip and tear like a lion. Rip and tear with lies and deceit trying to trick you into following Satan, trying to make you believe he is our True Saviour.
"But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first."(Revelation 2:4)
Here we are in the first day of the millennium and He is speaking to the fallen. They turned from the Father and followd the traditions of men. They took the mark of the beast.
"And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them:they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur,and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfurcame out of their mouths." (Revelation 9:17)
What comes out of their mouth? Lies, deceit, deception....that is what they conquer with. Their power is their lies. They will be an army of liars but we know the truth.........Whirlwind
 

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Boy Jonous are you are so smart thats why you get nephilims , after the flood you got demons the flesh dies but the spirt of angles live do you get it.
 

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"But I have this against you, that you have abandoned the love you had at first."(Revelation 2:4)Here we are in the first day of the millennium and He is speaking to the fallen. They turned from the Father and followd the traditions of men. They took the mark of the beast.
Here we are where God instructs Paul to write to each of the bishop/pastor (=angel) of the 7 churches of Asia to describe their true spiritual condition and tell them what to do to be restored. Simple as that. No fallen no risen no mysterious angels whatsoever...
 

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HI I do not see what you are really want there is more but you are side winding some what?
 

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I don't know. But as this topic is irrelevant to salvation, it's okay to have an opinion on either side.I heard in a sermon some where that the sons of man crossed the line when they mated with the sons of God. And as a result, God sent them into prison. That is why most of the fallen angels won't mate with man, ... yet. They fear of God punishing them.
 

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Here we are where God instructs Paul to write to each of the bishop/pastor (=angel) of the 7 churches of Asia to describe their true spiritual condition and tell them what to do to be restored. Simple as that. No fallen no risen no mysterious angels whatsoever...
Do you read the same Bible as I do or listen to men Gods word says nothing of the sort. sons of god =angles there are fallen ones and holy ones Here's a little excert from the book of Enoch part of the Apochrapa as I said not scripture but certainly more reliable than the men you seem to be listening too. And the basic's of it are in line with what scripture says EnochVI-XI. The Fall of the Angels: the Demoralisation of Mankind: the Intercession of the Angels on behalf of Mankind. The Dooms pronounced by God on the Angels: the Messianic Kingdom (a Noah fragment).CHAPTER VI.1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' 3. And Semjâzâ, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' 4. And they all answeredp. 35him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' 5. Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. 7. And these are the names of their leaders: Sêmîazâz, their leader, Arâkîba, Râmêêl, Kôkabîêl, Tâmîêl, Râmîêl, Dânêl, Êzêqêêl, Barâqîjâl, Asâêl, Armârôs, Batârêl, Anânêl, Zaqîêl, Samsâpêêl, Satarêl, Tûrêl, Jômjâêl, Sariêl. 8. These are their chiefs of tens.CHAPTER VII.1. And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. 2. And they became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: 3. Who consumed all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, 4. the giants turned against them and devoured mankind. 5. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. 6. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.CHAPTER Vlll1. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals 〈of the earth〉 and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. 2. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl,p. 36[paragraph continues] (taught) astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, 〈Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun〉, and Sariêl the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .CHAPTER lX1. And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. 2. And they said one to another: 'The earth made †without inhabitant cries the voice of their crying† up to the gates of heaven. 3 ⌈⌈And now to you, the holy ones of heaven⌉⌉, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause before the Most High.".' 4. And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, 〈and God of the ages〉, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! 5. Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. 6. Thou seest what Azâzêl hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which men were striving to learn: 7. And Semjâzâ, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. 8. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. 9. And the women have borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. 10. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. 11. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, andp. 37[paragraph continues] Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'CHAPTER X.1. Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech, and said to him: 2. '〈Go to Noah〉 and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. 3. And now instruct him that he may escape and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' 4. And again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azâzêl hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and make an opening in the desert, which is in Dûdâêl, and cast him therein. 5. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he may not see light. 6. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men may not perish through all the secret things that the Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. 8. And the whole earth has been corrupted through the works that were taught by Azâzêl: to him ascribe all sin.' 9. And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the children of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy each other in battle: for length of days shall they not have. 10. And no request that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and that each one of them will live five hundred years.' 11. And the Lord said unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjâzâ andp. 38his associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled themselves with them in all their uncleanness. 12. And when their sons have slain one another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is for ever and ever is consummated. 13. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: 〈and〉 to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all generations. 15. And destroy all the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness and truth appear: ⌈and it shall prove a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth⌉ shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.17 And then shall all the righteous escape,And shall live till they beget thousands of children,And all the days of their youth and their old ageShall they complete in peace.18 And then shall the whole earth be tilled in righteousness, and shall all be planted with trees and be full of blessing. 19. And all desirable trees shall be planted on it, and they shall plant vines on it: and the vine which they plant thereon shall yield wine in abundance, and as for all the seed which is sown thereon each measure (of it) shall bear a thousand, and each measure of olives shall yield ten presses of oil. 20. And cleanse thou the earth from all oppression, and from all unrighteousness, and from all sin, and from all godlessness: and all the uncleanness that is wrought upon the earth destroy from off the earth. 21. ⌈And all the children of men shall become righteous⌉, and all nations shallp. 39offer adoration and shall praise Me, and all shall worship Me. And the earth shall be cleansed from all defilement, and from all sin, and from all punishment, and from all torment, and I will never again send (them) upon it from generation to generation and for ever.If you would like to read the entire bookhttp://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe004.htm
 

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I was wondering the same thing about you my brother. Anyway you are free to have your own doctrine all you want, but I'm sorry I won't be part of it. As wakka pointed it is irrelevant to salvation, ther's no point arguing."Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you." - Phil. 3:15God bless you.
 

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I was wondering the same thing about you my brother. Anyway you are free to have your own doctrine all you want, but I'm sorry I won't be part of it.As wakka pointed it is irrelevant to salvation, ther's no point arguing."Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you." - Phil. 3:15God bless you.She is a sister. Just need the feel to correct you guys if you don't mind.Angels are always males. (Genesis 6:2, Genesis 19:10, Genesis 19:12) No such thing as a female angel.P.S. It is true that is irrelevant to salvation, but it will lead to someone's downfall. That is why we are told to have the seal of God in our forehead, to stand a chance against Death.Jag
 

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I was wondering the same thing about you my brother. Anyway you are free to have your own doctrine all you want, but I'm sorry I won't be part of it. As wakka pointed it is irrelevant to salvation, ther's no point arguing."Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you." - Phil. 3:15God bless you.
I wasnt trying to argue I just do not understand when people just choose to pick and choose which scriptures they believe its either all Gods words or its not I gave you the verse's in Job that tell you exactly who the sons of God are and scripture does not waiver it says the sons of Gods (angels) married daughters of men. Thats the Word of God thats scripture.Then you post some off the wall pastors and Bishops = angels that is not scripture. This is a bible scripture study sight if you want to listen to men or your doctrines you are free to do so but please dont be offened when your called on it.Not being scriptureThis isnt my doctrine its plain and simple it is spelled out in plain english. And I can document it in and out of scripture.Its exactly what scripture says.Here is the Bible Appendix from the companion Bible detailing this.25. THE NEPHILIM, OR "GIANTS"Of GEN. 6, &c. The progeny of the fallen angels with the daughters of Adam (see notes on Gen. 6, and Ap. 23) are called in Gen. 6, Ne-phil-im, which means fallen ones (from naphal, to fall). What these beings were can be gathered only from Scripture. They were evidently great in size, as well as great in wickedness. They were superhuman, abnormal beings; and their destruction was necessary for the preservation of the human race, and for the faithfulness of Jehovah's Word (Gen. 3:15). This was why the Flood was brought "upon the world of the ungodly" (2Pet. 2:5) as prophesied by Enoch (Jude 14). But we read of the Nephilim again in Num. 13:33 : "there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, which come of the Nephilim". How, it may be asked, could this be, if they were all destroyed in the Flood? The answer is contained in Gen. 6:4, where we read : "There were Nephilim in the earth in those days (i.e. in the days of Noah); and also AFTER THAT, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became [the] mighty men (Heb. gibbor, the heroes) which were of old, men of renown" (lit. men of the name, i.e. who got a name and were renowned for their ungodliness). So that "after that", i.e. after the Flood, there was a second irruption of these fallen angels, evidently smaller in number and more limited in area, for they were for the most part confined to Canaan, and were in fact known as "the nations of Canaan". It was for the destruction of these, that the sword of Israel was necessary, as the Flood had been before. As to the date of this second irruption, it was evidently soon after it became known that the seed was to come through Abraham; for, when he came out from Haran (Gen. 12:6) and entered Canaan, the significant fact is stated : "The Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land." And in Gen. 14:5 they were already known as "Raphain" and Emim", and had established themselves at Asteroth Karnaim and Shaven Kiriathaim. In ch. 15:18-21 they are enumerated and named among Canaanite Peoples : "Kenites, and the Kenizzites, and the Kadmonites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Rephaims, and the Amorites, and the Girgashites, and the Jebusites" (Gen. 15:19-21; cp. Ex. 3:8, 17; 23:23. Deut. 7; 20:17. Josh. 12:8). These were to be cut off, and driven out, and utterly destroyed (Deut. 20:17. Josh. 3:10). But Israel failed in this (Josh. 13:13; 15:63; 16:10; 17:18. Judg. 1:19, 20, 28, 29, 30-36; 2:1-5; 3:1-7); and we known not how many got away to other countries to escape the general destruction. If this were recognized it would go far to solve many problems connected with Anthropology. As to their other names, they were called Anakim, from on Anak which came of the Nephilim (Num. 13:23), and Rephaim, from Rapha, another notable one among them. From Deut. 2:10, they were known by some as Emim, and Horim, and Zamzummim (v. 20, 21) and Avim, &c. As Rephaim they were well known, and are often mentioned : but, unfortunately, instead of this, their proper name, being preserved, it is variously translated as "dead", "deceased", or "giants". These Rephaim are to have no resurrection. This fact is stated in Isa. 26:14 (where the proper name is rendered "deceased," and v. 19, where it is rendered "the dead"). It is rendered "dead" seven times (Job 26:5. Ps. 88:10. Prov. 2:18; 9:18; 21:16. Isa. 14:8; 26:19). It is rendered "deceased" in Isa. 26:14. It is retained as a proper name "Rephaim" ten times (two being in the margin). Gen. 14:5; 15:20. Josh. 12:15 (marg.). 2Sam. 5:18, 22; 23:13.& b31 nbsp; 1Chron. 11:15; 14:9; 20:4 (marg.). Isa. 17:5. In all other places it is rendered "giants", Gen. 6:4; Num. 23:33, where it is Nephilim; and Job 16:14, where it is gibbor (Ap. 14. iv). By reading all these passages the Bible student may know all that can be known about these beings. It is certain that the second irruption took place before Gen. 14, for there the Rephaim were mixed up with the five nations or peoples, which included Sodom and Gomorrha, and were defeated by the four kings under Chedorlaomer. Their principal locality was evidently "Ashtaroth Karnaim"; while the Emim were in the plain of Kiriathaim (Gen. 14:5). Anak was a noted descendant of the Nephilim; and Rapha was another, giving their names respectively to different clans. Anak's father was Arba, the original builder of Hebron (Gen. 35:27. Josh. 15:13; 21:11); and this Palestine branch of the Anakim was not called Arbahim after him, but Anakim after Anak. They were great, mighty, and tall (Deut. 2:10, 11, 21, 22, 23; 9:2), evidently inspiring the ten spies with great fear (Num. 13:33). Og king of Bashan is described in Deut. 3:11. Their strength is seen in "the giant cities of Bashan" to-day; and we know not how far they may have been utilized by Egypt in the construction of buildings, which is still an unsolved problem. Arba was rebuilt by the Khabiri or confederates seven years before Zoan was built by the Egyptian Pharoahs of the nineteenth dynasty. See note on Num. 13:22. If these Nephilim, and their branch of Rephaim, were associated with Egypt, we have an explanation of the problem which has for ages perplexed all engineers, as to how those huge stones and monuments were brought together. Why not in Egypt as well as in "the giant cities of Bashan" which exist, as such, to this day? Moreover, we have in these mighty men, the "men of renown," the explanation of the origin of the Greek mythology. That mythology was no mere invention of the human brain, but it grew out of the traditions, and memories, and legends of the doings of that mighty race of beings; and was gradually evolved out of the "heroes" of Gen. 6:4. The fact that they were supernatural in their origin formed an easy step to their being regarded as the demi-gods of the Greeks. Thus the Babylonian "Creation Tablets", the Egyptian "Book of the dead", the Greek mythology, and heathen Cosmogonies, which by some are set on an equality with Scripture, or by others adduced in support of it, are all the corruption and perversion of primitive truths, distorted in proportion as their origin was forgotten, and their memories faded away. Appendix List
 

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23. "THE SONS OF GOD" IN GEN. 6:2, 4.It is only by the Divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called "a son of God". For that which is "born of the flesh is flesh". God is spirit, and that which is "born of the Spirit is spirit" (John 3:6). Hence Adam is called a "son of God" in Luke 3:38. Those "in Christ" having "the new nature" which is by the direct creation of God (2Cor. 5:17. Eph. 2:10) can be, and are called "sons of God" (John 1:13. Rom. 8:14, 15. 1John 3:1). (*1) This is why angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Ps. 29:1; 89:6. Dan. 3:25 (no art.). (*2) We have no authority or right to take the expression in Gen. 6:2, 4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Gen. 6:2 the Sept. renders it "angels". Angels are called "spirits" (Ps. 104:4. Heb. 1:7, 14), for spirits are created by God. That there was a fall of the angels is certain from Jude 6. The nature of their fall is clearly stated in the same verse. They left their own oiketerion. This word occurs only in 2Cor. 5:2 and Jude 6, where it is used of the spiritual (or resurrection) body. The nature of their sin is stated to be "in like manner" to that of the subsequent sins of Sodom and Gomorrha, Jude 7. The time of their fall is given as having taken place "in the days of Noah" (1Pet. 3:20. 2Pet. 2:7), though there may have been a prior fall which caused the end of "the world that then was" (Gen. 1:1, 2. 2Pet. 3:6). For this sin they are "reserved unto judgment", 2Pet. 2:4, and are "in prison", 1Pet. 3:19. Their progeny, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were monsters of iniquity; and, being superhuman in size and character, had to be destroyed (see Ap. 25). This was the one and only object of the Flood. Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam (Gen. 6:9, see note). All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. the only remedy was to destroy it (de facto), as it had become destroyed (de jure). (It is the same word in v. 17 as in vv. 11, 12.) See further under Ap. 25 on the Nephilim. This irruption of fallen angels was Satan's first attempt to prevent the coming of the Seed of the woman foretold in gen. 3:15. If this could be accomplished, God's Word would have failed, and his own doom would be averted. As soon as it was made known that the Seed of the woman was to come through ABRAHAM, there must have been another irruption, as recorded in Gen. 6:4, "and also after that" (i.e. after the days of Noah, more than 500 years after the first irruption). The aim of the enemy was to occupy Canaan in advance of Abraham, and so to contest its occupation by his seed. For, when Abraham entered Canaan, we read (Gen. 12:6) "the Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land." In the same chapter (Gen. 12:10-20) we see Satan's next attempt to interfere with Abraham's seed, and frustrate the purpose of God that it should be in "Isaac". This attempt was repeated in 20:1-18. This great conflict may be seen throughout the Bible, and it forms a great and important subject of Biblical study. In each case the human instrument had his own personal interest to serve, while Satan had his own great object in view. Hence God had, in each case, to interfere and avert the evil and the danger, of which his servants and people were wholly ignorant. The following assaults of the great Enemy stand out prominently :-- The destruction of the chosen family by famine, Gen. 50:20. The destruction of the male line in Israel, Ex. 1:10, 15, &c. Cp. Ex. 2:5. Heb. 11:23. The destruction of the whole nation in Pharaoh's pursuit, Ex. 14. After David's line was singled out (2Sam. 7), that was the next selected for assault. Satan's first assault was in the union of Jehoram and Athaliah by Jehoshaphat, notwithstanding 2Chron. 17:1. Jehoram killed off all his brothers (2Chron. 21:4). The Arabians slew all his children, except Ahaziah (2Chron. 21:17; 22:1). When Ahaziah died, Athaliah killed "all the seed royal" (2Chron. 22:10). the babe Joash alone was rescued; and, for six years, the faithfulness of Jehovah's word was at stake (2Chron. 23:3). Hezekiah was childless, when a double assault was made by the King of Assyria and the King of Terrors (Isa. 36:1; 38:1). God's faithfulness was appealed to and relied on (Ps. 136). In Captivity, Haman was used to attempt the destruction of the whole nation (Est. 3:6, 12, 13. Cp. 6:1). Joseph's fear was worked on (Matt. 1:18-20). Notwithstanding the fact that he was "a just man", and kept the Law, he did not wish to have Mary stoned to death (Deut. 24:1); hence Joseph determined to divorce her. But God intervened : "Fear not". Herod sought the young Child's life (Matt. 2). At the Temptation, "Cast Thyself down" was Satan's temptation. At Nazareth, again (Luke 4), there was another attempt to cast Him down and destroy Him. The two storms on the Lake were other attempts. At length the cross was reached, and the sepulcher closed; the watch set; and the stone sealed. But "God raised Him from the dead." And now, like another Joash, He is seated and expecting (Heb. 10:12, 13), hidden in the house of God on high; and the members of "the one body" are hidden there "in Him" (Col. 3:1-3), like another Jehoshaba; and going forth to witness of His coming, like another Jehoiada (2Chron. 23:3). The irruption of "the fallen angels" ("sons of God") was the first attempt; and was directed against the whole human race. When Abraham was called, then he and his seed were attacked. When David was enthroned, then the royal line were attacked. And when "the Seed of the woman" Himself came, then the storm burst upon Him. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------(*1) The word "offspring" in Acts 17:28 is quite different. It is genos, which means merely kin or kind, our genus as being originated by God. (*2) In Hos. 1:10, it is not beni-ha-Elohim, as here, but beni-el-chai. Appendix List
 

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Whats interesting about this thread is about angels are genderless. And now some saying most are males and some others saying they are a hybrid of two genders at once.Im not sure if I agree with all that, and I know I havent seen an angel in person but I know my grandpa before he passed away did. He tells of a discription of how an angel appeared to him. But this one kinda blew me away when I heard this since he was a racist. He knows that hate couldnt get him into heaven so he redemed himself to his church and cleaned himself up. But before he died hes says an angel has appeared to him as an ethnic african racial angel and to add, this angel appears as a female to him and she looked all beautiful. Then she came near him to his bed, leaned over and kissed him on his lips, then over time and soon enough he then passed away. Leaving him only enough time to describe his experience and to tell others of these lovely angels.Im sure in old days that most artists has pictured angels a females much more commenly than male types. Not sure why that is, but if the angels are genderless which I doubt then they should not have appeard as neither male nor females. But the fact is they do anyway, maybe someone in this thread might be right that taking on human form helps us visualises these sacred beings as easier as possible. Or maybe these angels appear as only as themselves telling us this is who they are and not trying to hide themselves. As I said before I dont believe they are genderless, but I will agree that they are surely and positively bodyless. And as for the ethnic angels, God created different kinds of angels and are no different than the humans (except they are blessed and we on Earth are in the final days of redemtion). For although God has loved many different types of children in heaven and those who are on his garden, Earth.And I found a much more better meaning what angels are, and to me this sounds much more like them. That they are "God's messengers", that is very appropriate cause that is there main function to deliever the news from God to Earth or vice versa. So evertime we pray our prayers are being sent to the angel and fly back into heaven and then God will recieve our prayers.
 

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Of course they haev gender, easiest answer ever Jude 1:9 "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

I have heard several eyewitness accounts as a handsome younger looking male from certain people. I am pretty sure they have described seeing beautiful females as well but not as often I will have to check my sources.
 

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Revelation 12:7 " And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back."

Once again even Satan is described as a he as well as Michael one is an active angel and the other a fallen angel.
 

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Definitely a good question to raise. I'd like to know for certain how it was possible for the "sons of God" to take "wives" of flesh daughters, which the idea of Gen.6 "wives" means not just sexual relations, but also co-habitation with flesh woman.

Jude 1 is still the best direct clue of how, and makes a comparison to fornication. It says they "kept not their first estate", which means literally their first 'origin', 'beginning', 'place or principality', etc. So just what... kind of 'estate' was that? To me it hints they may have somehow taken a flesh form in coming to earth.

Then Jude 1 says they "left their own habitation", which means literally, they left their 'dwelling place' (i.e., the Heavenly order dimension).

It's like those angels had already been assigned the sin of rebellion against God, and coveted the idea of being born in the flesh so much, that they couldn't resist the beauty of flesh woman, and found a way to transform themselves anyway, against God's Will.

Apostle Paul said in Romans 8 the sufferings of this present time (regarding this flesh world existence) is not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed in us, speaking of when we are redeemed by Christ at His coming to the future state of the "sons of God."

Funny, we seek the glory of that coming Heavenly state of the angels, for as our Lord Jesus said that those of the resurrection are as the angels which are in Heaven (Mark 12:25). So for the angels that rebelled, were they seeking what we had with this flesh world? I think so, that they were very jealous of it. And a little prodding upon them by Satan would have been all it took, for he tried many times to destroy the flesh Seed of the Woman that Christ would be born through.
 

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guess we will find out in Heaven.