The Beast Revelation

William Barton · May 9, 2026

Spiritual Israelite asked:

<When did I say "card...doesn't mean you're not saved"?>

In your spiritual dreams.

If you are Israeli you should be telling me these things, I am but a gentile dog (Matthew 15:27).

David in NJ · May 9, 2026

ewq1938 said:
A new chip can be implemented as the MOB. Dunno if it will be a chip but it could be.

THEY have the technology whereby the MoB can be a permanent tattoo.

Thus the commandment and warning from the Law that can SEE to the END.
Notice how these are grouped together in one declaration - Leviticus 19:28

‘You shall not eat anything with the blood, nor shall you practice divination or soothsaying. 27You shall not shave around the sides of your head, nor shall you disfigure the edges of your beard. 28You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead,
nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.

Obviously, hairstyles does not concern God Today, neither do tattoos disqualify a person from Salvation.

However, the cutting of our bodies, drinking of blood, divination, witchcraft, sorcery, occult practices all remain as rebellion against Salvation and the Holy Spirit.
All of which can be forgiven when one turns to the LORD and repents from these.

The only 'tattoo'/ Mark that will not be forgiven is that which Revelation warns us of = Revelation 14:9-11

William Barton · May 9, 2026

Regarding Anti-Christ, let us understand:

If God hates false prophets, then God doubly hates false Messiahs (2Thessalonians 2:4).

ewq1938 · May 9, 2026

William Barton said:
Spiritual Israelite asked:

<When did I say "card...doesn't mean you're not saved"?>

In your spiritual dreams.

If you are Israeli you should be telling me these things, I am but a gentile dog (Matthew 15:27).

Gentile Christians are not dogs in that sense. That example is of a woman who was not a Christian and at the time her people were considered lower than the Jews.

William Barton · May 9, 2026

ewq1938 explained:

<Gentiles are not dogs in that sense>

Jesus said:

"It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their puppies." (Mark 7:26).

That seems a bit perjorative to me, and I imagine it was appropriate, since Jesus was sent to the house of Israel (not to Gentiles).

David in NJ · May 9, 2026

William Barton said:
ewq1938 explained:

<Gentiles are not dogs in that sense>

Jesus said:

"It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs." (Mark 7:26).

That seems a bit perjorative to me, and I imagine it was appropriate. There were no Gentile Christians at that time.

The reason why JESUS referred to her as "little dogs" is because of the occult practices she was involved in, which led to her daughter being demon possesed.

The GOOD NEWS is that JESUS knew her heart before HE spoke to her.
In this situation, JESUS was emphasizing to his disciples(and us) how persistent faith in Him leads to Mercy, no matter an individuals background.

William Barton · May 9, 2026

David in NJ explained:

<The reason why JESUS referred to her as "little dogs" is because of the occult practices she was involved in, which led to her daughter being demon possessed.>

I do not see anything about "occult practices" in the text.

Jesus explained that he was sent only to the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), presumably with the idea that the Jews would then disseminate his teachings.

"Dogs" refers to "Gentiles."
"Demons" refers to "fallen angels."

David in NJ · May 11, 2026

William Barton said:
David in NJ explained:

<The reason why JESUS referred to her as "little dogs" is because of the occult practices she was involved in, which led to her daughter being demon possessed.>

Jesus was sent only to the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), with the idea that they would disseminate his teachings.

"Dogs" refers to "Gentiles."
"Demon" = "fallen angel."

SHARPEN your mind/thinking with FOCUS on the TRUTH

JESUS was Sent as The SAVIOR of ALL men who are Made in the Image of GOD = Genesis/Gospel

Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
15that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

You have some thinking to do in the LIGHT of TRUTH

Shalom

William Barton · May 11, 2026

David in New Jersey noted:

<Jesus was sent as the savior of all men>

Jesus was sent to the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), with the idea that they would spread the gospel.

Unfortunately that did not work out so well.

Anchorite · May 11, 2026

William Barton said:
David in New Jersey noted:

<Jesus was sent as the savior of all men>

Jesus was sent to the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), with the idea that they would spread the gospel.

Unfortunately that did not work out so well.

It worked out very well, for here are you and I, recipients of and believers in the gospel.

Jesus told His disciples to go out to all the world preaching the gospel and they did.

Matthew 28

18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

William Barton · May 11, 2026

Anchorite noted:

>"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations" (Matthew 28:19)>

"Nations" in the Matthew 28:19 is Greek εθγη = "peoples." It is a mistake to fully equate English translation to the Greek word, because the semantic domain can vary.

The gospel was spread first in the Middle East. The people there knew nothing about a *planet* earth.

The apostle Paul got so aggravated by the Jewish response to the gospel that he switched to evangelizing the Gentiles (Acts 13:46-47).

David in NJ · May 11, 2026

William Barton said:
David in New Jersey noted:

<Jesus was sent as the savior of all men>

Jesus was sent to the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24), with the idea that they would spread the gospel.

Unfortunately that did not work out so well.

There is no denying Matthew 15:24 = 100% Truth

You must trust ALL that God has said on this in order to fully understand Matthew 15:24

GOD never contradicts Himself = John chapter 3

You will find His Understanding in His Word but you must rely on the Holy Spirit for understanding the Holy Scriptures.

Anchorite · May 11, 2026

William Barton said:
Anchorage noted:

>"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations" (Matthew 28:19)>

"Nations" in Matthew 28:19 is Greek εθγη = "peoples." It is a mistake to fully equate English translation into Greek words, the semantic domain can vary.

The gospel was spread first in the Middle East. The people there knew nothing about a planet earth.

Moses knew about a planet Earth when he wrote Genesis.

In the time of Jesus (1st Century AD/CE), the model of the Earth was largely understood as a sphere among educated Greek and Roman populations, while the broader, everyday understanding was frequently a flat, or nearly flat, disc according to some interpretations of ancient Near Eastern cosmology.

No matter how the world was conceived, the great commission was universal.

Jesus knew about all the people on planet Earth. And He commanded that disciples be made of all peoples, not just the peoples known at that time. We may read it more expansively now than the early disciples did, but the will of God is clear.

1 Timothy 2

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

So we see the gospel being spread from the Middle East to Africa, Far East, then Europe, and eventually the Americas and beyond.

Spiritual Israelite · May 11, 2026

William Barton said:
Spiritual Israelite asked:

<When did I say "card...doesn't mean you're not saved"?>

In your spiritual dreams.

What does that mean? I see that you are yet another person here who has no interest in being taken seriously. You quoted me as saying something that I didn't even say. Grow up.

William Barton said:
If you are Israeli you should be telling me these things, I am but a gentile dog (Matthew 15:27).

LOL. Do you not know what a Spiritual Israelite is? You are very ignorant. Also, as has been pointed out, Gentile Christians are not dogs. It was a perjorative term Jesus used for Gentile unbelievers.

William Barton · May 11, 2026

David in NJ noted:

<no denying Matthew 15:24>

Jesus and the disciples initially went to the Jews, but the Jews rebuffed them, rejecting the claim that a man (Jesus) could be God.

See Acts 13:46-48.

David in NJ · May 11, 2026

William Barton said:
David in NJ noted:

<no denying Matthew 15:24>

Jesus and the disciples initially went to the Jews, but the Jews rebuffed them, rejecting the claim that man (Jesus) could be God.

See Acts 13:46-48.

Then Paul and Barnabas grew bold and said, “It was necessary that the word of God should be spoken to you first; but since you reject it, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, behold, we turn to the Gentiles. 47For so the Lord has commanded us:

‘I have set you as a light to the Gentiles,
That you should be for salvation to the ends of the earth.’ ”

Now do you understand that GOD never contradicts Himself = John 3:16

William Barton · May 11, 2026

"Marks on the body" was/is a pagan tradition.

Bodies are the temple of God, no pagan decorum allowed.

William Barton · May 11, 2026

IMO:

o. A mushroom head is spherical, but a mushroom head is not a sphere.

o. Measuring the shape of the earth as a sphere, over one location, does not prove that the earth is a globe.

David in NJ · May 11, 2026

Anchorite said:
Moses knew about a planet Earth when he wrote Genesis.

In the time of Jesus (1st Century AD/CE), the model of the Earth was largely understood as a sphere among educated Greek and Roman populations, while the broader, everyday understanding was frequently a flat, or nearly flat, disc according to some interpretations of ancient Near Eastern cosmology.

No matter how the world was conceived, the great commission was universal.

Jesus knew about all the people on planet Earth. And He commanded that disciples be made of all peoples, not just the peoples known at that time. We may read it more expansively now than the early disciples did, but the will of God is clear.

1 Timothy 2

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

So we see the gospel being spread from the Middle East to Africa, Far East, then Europe, and eventually the Americas and beyond.

Dear Brother in Christ,

Please dwell on Genesis chapter 1 and most especially WATER.

SHALOM

William Barton · May 11, 2026

David in NJ noted:

<The reason why JESUS referred to her as "little dogs" is because of the occult practices she was involved in, which led to her daughter being demon possessed.>

Canaanites are semitic, but they are not Jewish, and Jesus was sent only to the Jews.

Apparently the problem was a fallen angel ("demon") who was oppressing the daughter. Jesus had mercy on her because of her faith, and he dismissed the angel.

"Demon" stems from Greek δαιμον = "a fallen angel."

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