Actually Jesus returns twice...

[rebuilder 454]

Yes, but he never says he takes anyone back to heaven. He returns and stays here.

Joh 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.


Jesus said, "I go to prepare a place for you." that is regarding those who die while Christ is in heaven. Jesus will eventually leave heaven: "I will come again". That is the second coming and here is the important thing: "I will come again and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."


So where is Christ after "I will come again and receive you unto myself"? Earth. He is no longer in heaven.


"I will come again and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."


This is what Jesus said. This is what some think he said:


"I will come again and receive you unto myself AND TAKE YOU BACK TO HEAVEN; that where I am, there ye may be also."


He also did NOT say, "I will come again and receive you unto myself; that where I USED TO BE, there ye may be also."

He never said when he came back, that he was taking anyone to heaven. He comes again to Earth and where he is on Earth is where the church will be.

Also in the same chapter:

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


Christ isn't returning to take anyone up to heaven to live with him and the Father but the opposite! The Father and Christ will end up coming here to make their abode on Earth with us! That's the opposite of the false pre-trib teaching!

Lol
You got owned in your one coming deal.
The uturn back to earth is lame.
That gross error is invented and debunked.
Three distinct comings.
Rev 14:14
Rev 19
1 thess 4.

Literally impossible to blenderize the 3 comings into one.
The one in Rev 14 VIVID VIVID DEPICTION.
It is comical watching you guys wiggle around it.
Why change revelation???
A forbidden book
You should respect the word of God and cease all that modifying.

 

[CrowCross]

Your uturn back to earth is made up big time.

In rev 19 the saints are in heaven and the bride is now the wife.
Meaning the marriage supper is over and was in heaven.
Then you misquoted Jesus saying "where i am you may be also."
You twisted it.
In the virgin parable the bride goes into the marriage chamber.
In your model they do a uturn back to the bride's house.
Jesus said in my Father's house are many mansions. I go and prepare a place for you.
Jesus said " i will not drink of the cup again until I drink it anew with you, in my Father's kingdom".

The one coming error made you twist all of that.

They seem to intentionally omit these little biblical facts....then claim we are presenting a false gospel.

 

[rebuilder 454]

They seem to intentionally omit these little biblical facts....then claim we are presenting a false gospel.

We own end times.

 

[rebuilder 454]

If anyone starts their end times position on "one coming" , they got a long road ahead, to reframe God's word into explaining the 3 comings dynamic away.
A really hard job.

 

[CrowCross]

If anyone starts their end times position on "one coming" , they got a long road ahead, to reframe God's word into explaining the 3 comings dynamic away.
A really hard job.

To be honest this is the first time I heard of 3 post resurrection comings of Jesus.
How do you present Rev 14:14 as one of three comings?

 

[David in NJ]

This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw.
This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near.

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book:
If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!

The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints.

 

[CrowCross]

This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soona come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear and obey what is written in it, because the time is near.

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book:
If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.

He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!

The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all the saints.

....and?????