Some will die today and be cast forever into the Lake of Fire

Luther7 said:

some of them are coming from an allegorical perspective.

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Ah yes, allegory.... that's code for the devil tricking people in to believe Jesus doesn't know what He's talking about.

Luther7 said:

Jesus made it very clear that the wages (payment) for sin is death.

Romans 6:23 KJV
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Of course.

Luther7 said:

Death. Death of the soul and body in hell, or the grave ( the place of everlasting punishment).

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What do you mean by “Death of the soul and body”? And what is “hell”?

Luther7 said:

The scripture doesn't say " For the wages of sin is an eternity of firey torture".

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I’ve already addressed this (HERE)—it is a straw man.

Again, when does this everlasting destruction begin for unbelievers? What do you mean by "the death of the soul," is it non-existence or separation from God or something else? And why do you use the word "torture" when it doesn't appear in the Bible? That seems like a straw man.

Riven said:

I'm not singling you out, nor am I saying you should be banned. However, I do find the idea of Christians not being saved because of X or Y reasons to be repugnant. It causes a Christian to doubt themselves, or worse, doubt the Lord.

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To be saved, 1 Cor 15:1-4 teaches the X & Y requirements.
If a Christian relies on the word of GOD then there can be no doubt.

JimKnox said:

Stop being obtuse.
CONTEXT demands that WHOMEVER is cast into the LOF are there FOREVER.
Stop twisting Scripture.

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and the verse that teach Rev 20:15 is FOREVER & EVER are ?

PeterAndroz said:

and the verse that teach Rev 20:15 is FOREVER & EVER are ?

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You advocating for satan and his demons be set free from being incarcerated in hell for eternity?

Lots of tares going around advocating for satan these days.

PeterAndroz said:

and the verse that teach Rev 20:15 is FOREVER & EVER are ?

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I am not playing your game.
I've watched this thread close enough to know what you believe, and I am in no mood.