It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

Taken · 2026-09-15T12:16:50-0500

WPM said:
In 1 Thess 4 there is no mention of any period of tribulation

So? That teaching is about the catching up of Christs Church / Bride to meet their Lord / Groom

The Tribulations Begin With the Lamb of God in Heaven Opening The Seals.
Rev 6:1

WPM said:
followed by a 3rd coming. You know that. That is why you cannot show it. Also, it is not anywhere else in Gods Book. It is a Jesuit invention.

What a dunce.
There is no third coming.
Nor have I claimed there was.
So go take your dumb question to whomever made that dumb claim!

WPM · 2026-09-15T12:20:07-0500

Taken said:
So? That teaching is about the catching up of Christs Church / Bride to meet their Lord / Groom

The Tribulations Begin With the Lamb of God in Heaven Opening The Seals.
Rev 6:1

What a dunce.
There is no third coming.
Nor have I claimed there was.
So go take your dumb question to whomever made that dumb claim!

Rev 6:1 relates to 2000 years ago when John was caught up in the Spirit. So, 1 Thess does not show a trib after the rapture. Where does? You admit Revelation does not show a rapture after a trib. So where is it?

JimKnox · 2026-09-15T12:25:14-0500

Taken said:
?
Ditto what?
I didn’t claim anything FOR you.

Sure you did. Go back and read it.

Taken · 2026-09-15T12:32:50-0500

WPM said:
There is no mention in 1 Thessalonians 4 of any period of tribulation followed by a 3rd coming. You know that. That is why you cannot show it. Also, it is not anywhere else in Gods Book. It is a Jesuit invention. 1+1+1 = 3 not 111.

LOL… WPM logic…
There is no mention of wrath in 1Thes 4:
There is no mention of tribulations in 1 Thes 4.

Brilliant to look for Scripture where it is NOT written. Not!

There is WPM claiming a 3rd return and wants someone to Tell him where it is in Scripture.

The 3rd coming is probably in the Scripture of Jesus putting on his Sandals going on a journey!! Not!

Communication skills even for a carnal thinker…

Ridiculous.

Taken · 2026-09-15T12:36:16-0500

JimKnox said:
Post #2943

# 2943 is a conversation between CrowCross and WPM!

amigo de christo · 2026-09-15T12:36:35-0500

Taken said:
What I Trust is The Knowledge is in Gods Word and the “meaning /Understanding”comes from the Lord God.

If there be men who desire to agree to PEACE, I salute them… as God Himself Blesses Peace-Makers.

Yes. Peace Between men Gods Word Teaches to strive for….
While FULL WELL UNDERSTANDING…
“ENTIRE WORLD PEACE IN the Whole World and Among The ENTIRE POPULATION, will Be Accomplished BY God, IN Gods NEW World and IN HIS Faithful Restored and Quickened Inhabitants of such New World”.

Disagree.

No wonder you and others are falling for and will fall for
the peace plan of anti christ . You all t hink its all about world peace
when all it ever was , was about the denial of the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
GOD never once told the jews to go and make a covenant with the peoples of this land or their gods .
HE TOLD THEM NOT TOO , b ecaus in the day they do IT WOUL DBE A SNARE to theri soul .
AND THAT IS EXAcTLY what this peace plan is . A SNARE to the soul .
AND it has DARN SURE LIED to all the false religoins who serve a false god
and too christendom has it lied as well . SAYING we all serve the same God .
that the god of the mu lism , hindu or any other relgoin , SON OF GOD JESUS CHRIST DENYING religon
IS not only serving the same GOD we do , but that our GOD is no different than theirs .
AND YOU EXPECT ME to fall for that or join hands with anti christ . NE VER taken , I WILL NEV ER DO IT .
BUT i will only expose its god and its peace plan for the satan it is and that anti christ it is surely of as well .

Taken · 2026-09-15T12:42:58-0500

WPM said:
Rev 6:1 relates to 2000 years ago when John was caught up in the Spirit. So, 1 Thess does not show a trib after the rapture. Where does? You admit Revelation does not show a rapture after a trib. So where is it?

Where is what?

WPM · 2026-09-15T12:57:43-0500

Taken said:
Where is what?

Where is your catching away in the book of Revelation before a tribulation period?

WPM · 2026-09-15T12:59:20-0500

Taken said:
LOL… WPM logic…
There is no mention of wrath in 1Thes 4:
There is no mention of tribulations in 1 Thes 4.

Brilliant to look for Scripture where it is NOT written. Not!

There is WPM claiming a 3rd return and wants someone to Tell him where it is in Scripture.

The 3rd coming is probably in the Scripture of Jesus putting on his Sandals going on a journey!! Not!

Communication skills even for a carnal thinker…

Ridiculous.

You are incapable of showing two future comings of Jesus anywhere in God's holy Book. Hello! Should you not consider abandoning this extra-biblical teaching.

Marvelloustime · 2026-09-15T13:42:55-0500

amigo de christo said:
No wonder you and others are falling for and will fall for
the peace plan of anti christ . You all t hink its all about world peace
when all it ever was , was about the denial of the dire need to BELIEVE ON JESUS .
GOD never once told the jews to go and make a covenant with the peoples of this land or their gods .
HE TOLD THEM NOT TOO , b ecaus in the day they do IT WOUL DBE A SNARE to theri soul .
AND THAT IS EXAcTLY what this peace plan is . A SNARE to the soul .
AND it has DARN SURE LIED to all the false religoins who serve a false god
and too christendom has it lied as well . SAYING we all serve the same God .
that the god of the mu lism , hindu or any other relgoin , SON OF GOD JESUS CHRIST DENYING religon
IS not only serving the same GOD we do , but that our GOD is no different than theirs .
AND YOU EXPECT ME to fall for that or join hands with anti christ . NE VER taken , I WILL NEV ER DO IT .
BUT i will only expose its god and its peace plan for the satan it is and that anti christ it is surely of as well .

@amigo de christo

JimKnox · 2026-09-15T13:55:20-0500

Taken said:
# 2943 is a conversation between CrowCross and WPM!

Fat fingered it!
Sorry.
It was #2953.

Spiritual Israelite · 2026-09-15T15:11:43-0500

PeterAndroz said:
In the trib you'll have to work to remain saved

Total nonsense. No one has been, is now or ever will be saved by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Salvation always has been and always will be by God's grace through faith.

WPM · 2026-09-15T15:13:41-0500

Spiritual Israelite said:
Total nonsense. No one has been, is now or ever will be saved by works (Ephesians 2:8-9). Salvation always has been and always will be by God's grace through faith.

Welcome back. You have been missed. Watch the Pretribs run for the hills. LOL.

Spiritual Israelite · 2026-09-15T15:15:48-0500

Taken said:
So? That teaching is about the catching up of Christs Church / Bride to meet their Lord / Groom

The Tribulations Begin With the Lamb of God in Heaven Opening The Seals.
Rev 6:1

What a dunce.
There is no third coming.
Nor have I claimed there was.
So go take your dumb question to whomever made that dumb claim!

Do you believe there is another coming of Christ after the one described here?

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

Spiritual Israelite · 2026-09-15T15:17:40-0500

WPM said:
Welcome back. You have been missed. Watch the Pretribs run for the hills. LOL.

Thanks. I've had some other priorities lately, but I'm going to try to post more often here. I see that the pretrib arguments are still as weak as ever without any scriptural support whatsoever.

Stumpmaster · 2026-09-15T15:33:56-0500

Can we just get on with burial

WPM said:
The Pretrib theory is dead. It is time to give it a decent burial.

Can we just get on with the burial. What's the hold up?

WPM · 2026-09-15T15:50:21-0500

Stumpmaster said:
Can we just get on with burial

Can we just get on with the burial. What's the hold up?

View attachment 90017

The Pre-trib family are holding up the burial of their beloved. Lol

Taken · 2026-09-15T15:53:56-0500

WPM said:
Where is your catching away in the book of Revelation before a tribulation period?

In your ignorance.

Taken · 2026-09-15T15:56:39-0500

Spiritual Israelite said:
Do you believe there is another coming of Christ after the one described here?

1 Thessalonians 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. 15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

One coming from heaven to Earth.

Maybe check with WPM he has 3 comings.

Taken · 2026-09-15T15:57:54-0500

JimKnox said:
Fat fingered it!
Sorry.
It was #2953.

Oh My error.
Thought you learned from schooling you mentioned.

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