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1.) Paul teaches Eternal Security as being "Born again".

2.) So, if you are not, then you are not "sealed" because you are not Saved.

3.) The "sealing" happens when God puts the Believer "in Christ". = Born....again.......= spiritual birth.

4.) This means that God's Holy Spirit, has Spiritually Birthed the SPIRIT in a Believer........into God Himself., as "born again".

5.) This means the eternally forgiven BELIEVER has become "one with God"......exactly as 1st Adam was originally .

6.) Being "sealed" means that you are born again, now having Jesus in you, so that you become "the temple of the Holy Spirit".

A.) So, to become "unsealed", you would have to stop being Born......again........and that is impossible, because being born again is a BIRTH.........a Spiritual Birth.....and you can't stop being born.
(Just ask your mother, if you dont Believe God).


Reader,
,..On this Forum, you are going to hear from religious self righteous Heretics who understand none of this that i just posted that is Salvation 101 found being taught in a Sunday School Class for 10 yr olds.

Self Righteous Heretics do not understand : The Cross of Christ

= that is the Eternal Blood Atonement,

= that is the Eternal New Covenant,

= that is God's Eternal Grace.

So, because they dont understand anything at all about Eternal Salvation found "IN Christ", they can only talk about doing works, and keeping commandments, and Moses law and being water baptized, and enduring to the , and (self) abiding......and whatever else is on their SELF SAVING LIST........of things that all Heretics try to do, as if they are the Savior.

Avoid these Heretics, and they are very easy to spot, as all of these deceived Deceivers will tell you LOUDLY that "you can lose your salvation".
2:24 shows that it takes faith AND works to be Justified..... pretty simple
2:24 shows that it takes faith AND works to be Justified..... pretty simple
2:24 shows that it takes faith AND works to be Justified..... pretty simple
then why does scripture require perseverance unto death?

mt 10:22
mk 13:13
mt 24:13
rev 2:10

thks
 

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Reader,


1.) Paul teaches Eternal Security as being "Born again".

2.) So, if you are not, then you are not "sealed" because you are not Saved.

3.) The "sealing" happens when God puts the Believer "in Christ". = Born....again.......= spiritual birth.

4.) This means that God's Holy Spirit, has Spiritually Birthed the SPIRIT in a Believer........into God Himself., as "born again".

5.) This means the eternally forgiven BELIEVER has become "one with God"......exactly as 1st Adam was originally .

6.) Being "sealed" means that you are born again, now having Jesus in you, so that you become "the temple of the Holy Spirit".

A.) So, to become "unsealed", you would have to stop being Born......again........and that is impossible, because being born again is a BIRTH.........a Spiritual Birth.....and you can't stop being born.
(Just ask your mother, if you dont Believe God).


Reader,
,..On this Forum, you are going to hear from religious self righteous Heretics who understand none of this that i just posted that is Salvation 101 found being taught in a Sunday School Class for 10 yr olds.

Self Righteous Heretics do not understand : The Cross of Christ

= that is the Eternal Blood Atonement,

= that is the Eternal New Covenant,

= that is God's Eternal Grace.

So, because they dont understand anything at all about Eternal Salvation found "IN Christ", they can only talk about doing works, and keeping commandments, and Moses law and being water baptized, and enduring to the , and (self) abiding......and whatever else is on their SELF SAVING LIST........of things that all Heretics try to do, as if they are the Savior.

Avoid these Heretics, and they are very easy to spot, as all of these deceived Deceivers will tell you LOUDLY that "you can lose your salvation"
then why does scripture warn against sin that separates us from God?

(( will never inherit the kingdom of God or attain to eternal salvation ))

mt 25:30
Eph 5:2-6
gal 5:1
gal 5:19-21
gal 6:7-8
1 cor 6:9-10 & 15-20
1 tim 5:12
rev 21:8
rev 21:27

rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

(what if they walk after the flesh?)


Gal 6:7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

thks
 

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then why does scripture require perseverance unto death?

God only and always accepts what Christ has given Him, to accept a sinner .

And what did Christ Give God, so that God will accept a SINNER?


A.) Jesus gave God His body and blood.


See that "Blood Atonment"? = that is the "New Covenant" and "New Testament"?

God only accepts a sinner, based on the Sacrifice of Christ = ON THE CROSS !!! <.
 
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God only and always accepts what Christ has given Him, to accept a sinner .

And what did Christ Give God, so that God will accept a SINNER?


A.) Jesus gave God His body and blood.


See that "Blood Atonment"? = that is the "New Covenant" and "New Testament"?

God only accepts a sinner, based on the Sacrifice of Christ = ON THE CROSS !!! <.
do explain

mt 5:7
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

Luke 7:47
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1 Peter 4:8
And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins

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then why does scripture require perseverance unto death?

mt 10:22
mk 13:13
mt 24:13
rev 2:10

thks
Correct Rev 2:10 Be thou Faithful (doing works of servant) unto Death and I will give you the crown of life...

So if your not faithful unto death you dont get one otherwise being faithful means nothing when it comes to getting a crown
 

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FAITHHOPECHRITY said:
rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

(what if they walk after the flesh?)

WHO ME replies: luke 12:45-47 shows us exactly that, he is appointed with the unbelievers.....
 
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Correct Rev 2:10 Be thou Faithful (doing works of servant) unto Death and I will give you the crown of life...

So if your not faithful unto death you dont get one otherwise being faithful means nothing when it comes to getting a crown
Correct Rev 2:10 Be thou Faithful (doing works of servant) unto Death and I will give you the crown of life...

So if your not faithful unto death you dont get one otherwise being faithful means nothing when it comes to getting a crown
rom 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

thks