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This is when its finished or do you Ignore that fact Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations. Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads. Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings [are] faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star. Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.
 

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This is when its finished or do you Ignore that fact Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, [was there] the tree of life, which bare twelve [manner of] fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree [were] for the healing of the nations. Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: Rev 22:4 And they shall see his face; and his name [shall be] in their foreheads. Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever. Rev 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings [are] faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed [is] he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard [them]. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star. Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: Rev 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. Rev 22:20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Rev 22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [be] with you all. Amen.
On the cross Jesus said "it is finished". The final sacrifice was accomplished. The old Testament law and the prophets were finished. The "Son" was now here. "Sonship" is now here. New Testament Glory is now here. Grace and Truth are now on the scene.In the sense that you are speaking, it will never be finished. We go on with God eternally in the ages to come. But the way through to Glory and eternal Life is "finished". We are just living out the full bloom development process of the incorruptible, infallible Word.We enter in to the "rest" of a finished work. That's the Word. Hebrews 4:3I'm sorry that y'all have a problem with that. But you'll have to take it up with God.
 

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XDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On the cross Jesus said "it is finished". The final sacrifice was accomplished. The old Testament law and the prophets were finished. The "Son" was now here. "Sonship" is now here. New Testament Glory is now here. Grace and Truth are now on the scene.In the sense that you are speaking, it will never be finished. We go on with God eternally in the ages to come. But the way through to Glory and eternal Life is "finished". We are just living out the full bloom development process of the incorruptible, infallible Word.We enter in to the "rest" of a finished work. That's the Word. Hebrews 4:3I'm sorry that y'all have a problem with that. But you'll have to take it up with God.
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More milk stated like it actually says something a Babe doesnt already understand
Then why are you not "resting"? Oh, you thought God said "wresting", so you wrestle over the Scriptures, instead of opening your heart to Revelation. I get it now.
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I rest everyday in the Christ he is my Sabbath
Amen! Now you're talking, sister. See, now that didn't hurt at all to say "Amen!" Now, let's just go from here...one baby step at a time...
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Now, now..be nice.XDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!I am nice. Christina just gave you the answer at the very top of page 3.
 

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Amen! Now you're talking, sister. See, now that didn't hurt at all to say "Amen!" Now, let's just go from here...one baby step at a time...
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Go where Jesus Christ came died on the cross he came not to change the Law but to fulfill the Law he is our Sabbath we are to rest in him everyday We now live under Grace. It is finished.. . John 19:30 "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, "It is finished:" and He bowed His head, and gave up the ghost.When Jesus stated "It is finished", He was quoting from the last line of Psalm 22, with the word "Finished" in the Greek text, the same as the Hebrew word "done". Just like his other words on the cross were to teach us lead us to Psalm 22 were 1000 years earlier his death had been prophesied even down to the casting of lots for his clothing Psalms 22:1 "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art Thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"John 10:18 "No man taketh it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of My Father."Now if you will notice he says the same Words again later so he obviously wasnt bcompletley done the first time he said them he had finished his earthly ministery. He had fulfilled the Law issued in Grace opened salvation to all but what he didnt mean was all things are completed.Or he he would have repeated the Words again adding Alpha and Omega, begining to End, It started Long ago and will not be Done finished until the End Omega Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
 

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Go where Jesus Christ came died on the cross he came not to change the Law but to fulfill the Law he is our Sabbath we are to rest in him everyday We now live under Grace. It is finished.. . John 19:30 "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, "It is finished:" and He bowed His head, and gave up the ghost.When Jesus stated "It is finished", He was quoting from the last line of Psalm 22, with the word "Finished" in the Greek text, the same as the Hebrew word "done". Just like his other words on the cross were to teach us lead us to Psalm 22 were 1000 years earlier his death had been prophesied even down to the casting of lots for his clothing Psalms 22:1 "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art Thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"John 10:18 "No man taketh it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of My Father."Now if you will notice he says the same Words again later so he obviously wasnt bcompletley done the first time he said them he had finished his earthly ministery. He had fulfilled the Law issued in Grace opened salvation to all but what he didnt mean was all things are completed.Or he he would have repeated the Words again adding Alpha and Omega, begining to End, It started Long ago and will not be Done finished until the End Omega Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
I have no problem with all of that. Where I, and maybe the original poster is coming from, is Hebrews 4:3 "...although the works WERE FINISHED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD".In the mind and heart of God...the works are finished. He is so sovereign and wise...He is so "GOD", that "He calls things which be not...as though they ALREADY are". Romans 4:17 (KJV)17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.This is the type of Faith He desires us to walk in. This "faith" is a Revelation...it is the "substance of things hoped for", and the "evidence of thingsd not seen". So, the works that "are finished", and yet are not SEEN in their actual fulfillment, we speak as though they are done, as they are more real to us than the natural world around us. This is what we LOOK AT.2 Cor 4:17-18 (KJV)17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.The very spirit of faith is "I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak:" 2 Cor. 4:13So, we enter into this "rest" of the finished work, by BELIEVING it is a "now" reality. "For we which have believed do enter into rest..." Heb. 4:13We believe and appropriate our faith according to a "finished work". The whole context of the new Testament is for God's people to enter by Faith into a "finished work". The just shall live by Faith.
 

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Go where Jesus Christ came died on the cross he came not to change the Law but to fulfill the Law he is our Sabbath we are to rest in him everyday We now live under Grace. It is finished.. . John 19:30 "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, He said, "It is finished:" and He bowed His head, and gave up the ghost.When Jesus stated "It is finished", He was quoting from the last line of Psalm 22, with the word "Finished" in the Greek text, the same as the Hebrew word "done". Just like his other words on the cross were to teach us lead us to Psalm 22 were 1000 years earlier his death had been prophesied even down to the casting of lots for his clothing Psalms 22:1 "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me? Why art Thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?"John 10:18 "No man taketh it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of My Father."Now if you will notice he says the same Words again later so he obviously wasnt bcompletley done the first time he said them he had finished his earthly ministery. He had fulfilled the Law issued in Grace opened salvation to all but what he didnt mean was all things are completed.Or he he would have repeated the Words again adding Alpha and Omega, begining to End, It started Long ago and will not be Done finished until the End Omega Rev 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. Rev 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
I have no problem with all of that. Where I, and maybe the original poster is coming from, is Hebrews 4:3 "...although the works WERE FINISHED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD".In the mind and heart of God...the works are finished. He is so sovereign and wise...He is so "GOD", that "He calls things which be not...as though they ALREADY are". Romans 4:17 (KJV)17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.This is the type of Faith He desires us to walk in. This "faith" is a Revelation...it is the "substance of things hoped for", and the "evidence of thingsd not seen". So, the works that "are finished", and yet are not SEEN in their actual fulfillment, we speak as though they are done, as they are more real to us than the natural world around us. This is what we LOOK AT.2 Cor 4:17-18 (KJV)17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.The very spirit of faith is "I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak:" 2 Cor. 4:13So, we enter into this "rest" of the finished work, by BELIEVING it is a "now" reality. "For we which have believed do enter into rest..." Heb. 4:13We believe and appropriate our faith according to a "finished work". The whole context of the new Testament is for God's people to enter by Faith into a "finished work". The just shall live by Faith.In order to stay in the "finished work" we must also follow the UNFULFILLED prophecies that Christ and the Old Testament says.
 

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In order to stay in the "finished work" we must also follow the UNFULFILLED prophecies that Christ and the Old Testament says.
Yes, and in order to properly understand the progressively unfolding of Prohecy...we must remain in the light of the new Testament "finished work"."walking in the Light as He is in the Light..." Where people usually miss it, and differ one with another, is in their differing views on new Testament foundations and position. It is only those who are "walking as children of the day" that will be positioned and ready for the true unfolding of the Scriptures in God's seasons of fulfillment.2 Peter 1:19-21 (KJV)19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It was only the "wise virgins" who had the fresh supply of anointing oil to give them prophetic insight and to be intune with God. Without "oil" in the lamps...the Holy Spirit lighting our way, the Word no longer can be "a lamp unto our feet". It is the Spirit of God that unfolds the Scriptures to our hearts in their proper season. This is where those who are truly God's...and those who are NOT...differentiates.This is the difference between True prophecy and the false. It is a "secret place" of Revelation between God and His own...that "secret place of the Most High".And none of my friends has yet told something of a "prophecy" outside of His words. And you are right though, only the Holy Spirit our Comforter can tells us things that a natural man can't received.
 

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On the cross Jesus said "it is finished". The final sacrifice was accomplished. The old Testament law and the prophets were finished. The "Son" was now here. "Sonship" is now here. New Testament Glory is now here. Grace and Truth are now on the scene.In the sense that you are speaking, it will never be finished. We go on with God eternally in the ages to come. But the way through to Glory and eternal Life is "finished". We are just living out the full bloom development process of the incorruptible, infallible Word.
Ezekiel 48:35
It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name of the city from that day shall be, The LORD is there.
Since the Old Testament prophets are done, can you kindly point out where this city named YHVH Shammah is found? I'm afraid I'm not sure, it's not on any updated maps. Also, after that, can you tell me where the actions of Jeremiah 49 and Ezekiel 38 took place? I'd like to go visit those places and see the defeated armies of Satan.In case it's unclear, I'm being quite sarcastic here. "It is finished" refers to Christ finishing his one and all time role as the perfect sacrifice for our sins. I choose not to revel in a known fact, but concentrate on the hundreds of other statements that tell us more is to come.One can say they are saved all day - and "praise" Jesus all they want - but does it make them? God answers that when the time comes.
 

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I think you are probably wasting your time with this character Swamp Fox IMO.Some people use a truncated Bible that fits their theology. Ours is thick, theirs is thin like a magazine with nicely summarized articles.
 

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i think you are probably wasting your time with this character swamp fox imo.Some people use a truncated bible that fits their theology. Ours is thick, theirs is thin like a magazine with nicely summarized articles.
Great post! XDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!
 

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Heb 12:18-29 (KJV)18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake) 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: 29 For our God is a consuming fire.This is all that concerns me. The original post still stands true. ALL the works were finished "before the foundation of the world"...we BELIEVE that and step into it by Faith.Oh, yes, and we can KNOW NOW that we are saved. 1 John 5:10-13 (KJV)10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
Do you even know what is that " before the foundation of the world" is? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
 

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I have no problem with all of that. Where I, and maybe the original poster is coming from, is Hebrews 4:3 "...although the works WERE FINISHED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD".In the mind and heart of God...the works are finished. He is so sovereign and wise...He is so "GOD", that "He calls things which be not...as though they ALREADY are". Romans 4:17 (KJV)17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.This is the type of Faith He desires us to walk in. This "faith" is a Revelation...it is the "substance of things hoped for", and the "evidence of thingsd not seen". So, the works that "are finished", and yet are not SEEN in their actual fulfillment, we speak as though they are done, as they are more real to us than the natural world around us. This is what we LOOK AT.2 Cor 4:17-18 (KJV)17 For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; 18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.The very spirit of faith is "I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak:" 2 Cor. 4:13So, we enter into this "rest" of the finished work, by BELIEVING it is a "now" reality. "For we which have believed do enter into rest..." Heb. 4:13We believe and appropriate our faith according to a "finished work". The whole context of the new Testament is for God's people to enter by Faith into a "finished work". The just shall live by Faith.
 

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Great post! XDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!
Well, its true. None of my challenges in scripture have been answered, and then it's swept under the rug as if it's not important when it comes from God's Word and has everything to do with Christ's coming. No wonder I just get humorous and then show Celts, (or should I say the lost tribes of Israel?) dancing around. There's been a proliferation of these vociferous types lately on this board that song and dance around scripture to evade the truth and push their own stuff. It's like they're coming out of the woodwork lately, either these types or belligerent atheists. Maybe some are trolls. Geeeez.
 
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