Something that I find to be silly, men like to argue over things that are good works. Would a man actually find fault with sprinkling people with water in Christ? Would you find a problem with blessing ones home with water in Christ or a land? What evil could possibly come from blessing a man with Blessed water in the name of Christ?
Teresa of Avila and Watering the Garden
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I am simply giving you the biblical truth about priests, not from any denominational perspective. When you go through the New Testament personally, you will find the following truths:
1. All the children of God are placed within a Royal Priesthood, which means that every believer is a priest -- and we are kings and priests before God. See 1 Peter 2, and Rev 1:5,6.
2. Because the Lord Himself is the Divine High Priest who offered Himself as the ultimate sacrifice (the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world) the Levitical priesthood was abolished, and after the destruction of the temple at Jerusalem in AD 70, the entire system of priests and sacrifices was rendered null and void. Study the epistle to the Hebrews.
3. In the apostolic New Testament churches, there were just two offices -- that of elder/bishop (or pastor/elder/bishop) and that of deacon. Both offices required that the men (never women) who were appointed from within the assembly meet specific requirements (see 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus as well as Acts). And there was always a PLURALITY of both elders and deacons, to ensure that one man did not carry the entire burden, nor mislead the entire flock. At the same time the deacons would focus on the temporal affairs of the church and the elders on their spiritual welfare.
4. But the elders were not clergy, and Christ had strictly forbidden His disciples to take any clerical titles such as Master (now Doctor or Monsigneur) or Rabbi (now Reverend or Right Reverend), or Father (now Holy Father or Father). Therefore "All ye are brethren". So every one within the church was a priest, but the elders were the shepherds of the flock. See 1 Peter 5.
5. The term for elder is presbuteros in Greek, but elders are never called priests (hiereus). However, they were interchangeably called bishops (episkopos) which means overseer, since they took spiritual oversight of the assembly.
6. The Lord's Supper was a Memorial Feast and the bread and wine were symbolic of the body and blood of Christ. There were no altars, no priests, and no sacrifices such as the Mass. See 1 Cor 11.
You do not have to take my word for any of this. All you need is Nave's Topical Bible (KJV) and search out all these subjects for yourself.
Philip James
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We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat.
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Waiting on him
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What’s a starter?Well, that we have an altar for starters
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Waiting on him
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That’s the thing Philip, this whole pecking order that the RCC has going on
It does not fit with scripture in my opinion.
The N. T. AND JESUS teach us that we are children of God.
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Philip James
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I think the office of bishop and presbytyr is clearly established in scripture.
Further that such is demonstrated in all the ancient apostolic communities.
I take John's words here to heart:
They went out from us, but they were not really of our number; if they had been, they would have remained with us. Their desertion shows that none of them was of our number.
Peace be with you!
Waiting on him
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But the scripture also says that if the old lump is levened to make a new lump?
And also with you
Waiting on him
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@GodsGrace the way I see it is SBG is right where God wants her at this time. For what ever reason, if she needs to be some mans crony, then that’s her walk right now, and if God chooses for that to change then it’ll happen. Would you agree?
On phone & can't write 2 much.
I agree.
What is bothersome is the hypocrisy.
I learn from others here,,, no problem if it "fits".
And no human is my mentor...
Waiting on him
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I continually urge my wonderful wife @VictoryinJesus to seek Gods council, not mine sometimes she gets frustrated with me, but the truth is I love her too much to subject her to my fallibility.
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“"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few
Ok, now I have respect for you and victory in Jesus!
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