I Am Here To Feed The Flock Of God

gumby · Apr 14, 2010

Hi there CB members and beloved freinds. It seems as if we here at CB have run into some doctornal disagreements over the past few weeks. I understand that we as a body of christ will disagree we will have disputes even anger towards one another at times however i am here and will always be here to feed the flock of the lord. John 21:16, John 21:17, Acts 20:28, Romans 12:20, 1st Peter 5:2 and Revelation 7:17. So my underlining point here is go out and feed someone the word of god go out and be constantly hungry and constantly ready to feed.

God bless

Brother Mike · Apr 14, 2010

Well, Lot of the issues has been in the DEBATE forums.....................And people like JerryJohnson, 6String, Christina, Jiggyfly (though he seems to irritate some more than others) and others, I feel though they have disagreed (Different upbringings, experiences, whatever) they have conducted themselves properly. Of course I am not the Judge, but considering we are on a public forum, your going to have issue with so many different denominations and belief's. What we all agree on however is that Jesus Is Lord, and that is good enough for me.

There are a few, that do seem immature and get offended easy. I see them lash out. I won't Mention Names, but we do have some Children running around.

For the most part Gumby I am grateful that someone is at least taking a LOVE reading here and making mention of this. On the other part, I know two people on this forum that do not agree with my Doctrine already and I do expect opposition form them. However, I know they don't walk out of love, and it's all good.

Keep up the good Work Gumby!!!!

Jesus Is Lord

gumby · Apr 14, 2010

Well speaking personally mike i just see to much back and forth bickering like children and not enough teaching and as the body of christ that divides us when we quaral over small matters. Lets look at what scripture says on the matter shall we. Romans 12:20, Romans 12:21, Proverbs 25:21, Matthew 5:44, Luke 6:27 and Luke 6:35.

Its clear when someone disagrees with us our natural instinct is to reply with anger and hostility. Christ himself says no dont be that way when someone offends you or disagrees with you act like a child of god and love them, pray for them, feed them scripture, show them spiritual mercy and love not anger.

Thats my main point is feed dont bicker.....................just feed even among your enemies just feed.

God bless

Martin W. · Apr 14, 2010

gumby said:
Hi there CB members and beloved freinds. It seems as if we here at CB have run into some doctornal disagreements over the past few weeks. I understand that we as a body of christ will disagree we will have disputes even anger towards one another at times however i am here and will always be here to feed the flock of the lord. John 21:16, John 21:17, Acts 20:28, Romans 12:20, 1st Peter 5:2 and Revelation 7:17. So my underlining point here is go out and feed someone the word of god go out and be constantly hungry and constantly ready to feed.

God bless

Very well gumby.

Let me start with the first questions:

1. In John 21:16 that you quoted , who was Jesus giving instruction to?

2. In Acts 20:28 that you quoted , who was Paul giving instruction to?

Thanks
Martin W.

jerryjohnson · Apr 15, 2010

There are other things that some need to hear yet. These verses are looking toward a particular time that is coming.

Luk 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?
Luk 12:50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!
Luk 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
Luk 12:52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.
Luk 12:53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

gumby · Apr 16, 2010

Martin W. said:
Very well gumby.

Let me start with the first questions:

1. In John 21:16 that you quoted , who was Jesus giving instruction to?

2. In Acts 20:28 that you quoted , who was Paul giving instruction to?

Thanks
Martin W.

Be more than happy to answer those questions for you martin:

1. He was speaking to Simon Peter (John 21:15)

2. Paul was giving instruction to the elders of the church (Acts 20:17)

God bless

Brother Mike · Apr 16, 2010

I see the scriptures that JerryJohnson gave. My question then is would that apply to us here on the forums. First we are not Jesus, and second who here does not believe that Jesus died for us, and is the only way to God? There is no other way. The blood, the resurrection, everything we all believe.

Now if that is the case.

Someone may not believe in tongues, or believe in pre-Trib rapture. (Just examples............nothing to discuss) We don't have to talk about those things, but we still have something in common. Jesus Is our Lord.

Now if you come to me and say that there are many ways to be saved, and that the Lords bones were found in some box, we don't have anything in common. I have nothing to say to you. You can't be a Christian and believe these things.

So, Gumby, what is the issue for this forum you would like to see changed??? How would it be possible to agree on everything?

Is it good that we agree on everything? I mean if we beat the same drum, it could be the music is all wrong, and nobody would get on track.

Jesus Is Lord

gumby · Apr 16, 2010

Brother Mike said:
I see the scriptures that JerryJohnson gave. My question then is would that apply to us here on the forums. First we are not Jesus, and second who here does not believe that Jesus died for us, and is the only way to God? There is no other way. The blood, the resurrection, everything we all believe.

Now if that is the case.

Someone may not believe in tongues, or believe in pre-Trib rapture. (Just examples............nothing to discuss) We don't have to talk about those things, but we still have something in common. Jesus Is our Lord.

Now if you come to me and say that there are many ways to be saved, and that the Lords bones were found in some box, we don't have anything in common. I have nothing to say to you. You can't be a Christian and believe these things.

So, Gumby, what is the issue for this forum you would like to see changed??? How would it be possible to agree on everything?

Is it good that we agree on everything? I mean if we beat the same drum, it could be the music is all wrong, and nobody would get on track.

Jesus Is Lord

My basic point here is that more scripture needs to be taught and as individuals we need to make scripture in evrything we do. When we wake we must think scripture when we go to bed we must think scripture. At our work we must think scripture. We must let god lead and teach and minister and work through scripture and only scripture thats my point.

God bless

Brother Mike · Apr 16, 2010

OK, OK, OK, I see that Point about Putting the Word first. You said.

My basic point here is that more scripture needs to be taught and as individuals we need to make scripture in evrything we do.

I am talking about the Forum.... You use Scriptures, I use Scriptures, everyone uses scriptures. So, it seems that just using scriptures are not enough, or else you would not be making this post.

Once again Brother.

What needs Changed?? On the forum?? It's got to be more than scripture, and the fact we go at it like cats and dogs. There must be a cause, and I won't pretend I can pinpoint it.

Jesus Is Lord

gumby · Apr 16, 2010

Brother Mike said:
OK, OK, OK, I see that Point about Putting the Word first. You said.

I am talking about the Forum.... You use Scriptures, I use Scriptures, everyone uses scriptures. So, it seems that just using scriptures are not enough, or else you would not be making this post.

Once again Brother.

What needs Changed?? On the forum?? It's got to be more than scripture, and the fact we go at it like cats and dogs. There must be a cause, and I won't pretend I can pinpoint it.

Jesus Is Lord

My point is Mark 3:35. We need to acknowledge one another as family and talk to people like family instead of cordualy passing and arguing over nothing. In other words its not man were trying to please its the lord. Ephesians 6:6. How we please that need is with scripture we will that hunger with scripture Hosea 6:6. in other words no one needs to be pleased but god not man.

God bless you

Brother Mike · Apr 16, 2010

We need to acknowledge one another as family and talk to people like family instead of cordualy passing and arguing over nothing.

As Family!!!!

Now that is starting to make sense Brother!!!!! I see now where your coming from..... Now how to convince everyone else??

Jesus Is Lord

fivesense · Apr 18, 2010

Martin W. said:
Very well gumby.

Let me start with the first questions:

1. In John 21:16 that you quoted , who was Jesus giving instruction to?

2. In Acts 20:28 that you quoted , who was Paul giving instruction to?

Thanks
Martin W.

I so thoroughly enjoy your Berean attitude Martin. I couldn't help but dig into it like you did. Loving God, and loving His truth go hand in hand. While some contend, and that's O.K., others are instructed and increased in faith, the faith of Christ. The battle is fierce, constant, and should we choose to be in denial about the powers that want to keep us out of our inheritance, the circumstances we are in will not change-"be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God", an injunction you have obviously taken to heart.

After glancing over those 2 passages, it appears that it is the disciples of the Lord He is talking to, those who received his message of the grace of God and the secret of the joint-body of Jew and Gentile. I am presuming, without researching it, that the elders of Ephesus were Jewish overseers, typical of the initial phase of the Body before the full revelation of the secret was made known during Paul's Roman imprisonment.
fivesense

Martin W. · Apr 18, 2010

fivesense said:
I so thoroughly enjoy your Berean attitude Martin. I couldn't help but dig into it like you did. Loving God, and loving His truth go hand in hand. While some contend, and that's O.K., others are instructed and increased in faith, the faith of Christ. The battle is fierce, constant, and should we choose to be in denial about the powers that want to keep us out of our inheritance, the circumstances we are in will not change-"be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God", an injunction you have obviously taken to heart.

After glancing over those 2 passages, it appears that it is the disciples of the Lord He is talking to, those who received his message of the grace of God and the secret of the joint-body of Jew and Gentile. I am presuming, without researching it, that the elders of Ephesus were Jewish overseers, typical of the initial phase of the Body before the full revelation of the secret was made known during Paul's Roman imprisonment.
fivesense

Yes fivesense, that is pretty much what I was getting at. Thanks.

Jesus tells disciples to feed the flock. We are the flock , We are not the disciples.

(With good intentions) Gumby volunteered to "feed the flock" here on the forum and I just wanted him to understand that we cannot properly apply that scripture to ourselves in the same context Jesus used it with the 12.

It is certainly honorable for Gumby and all of us to do what we can for each other , but we should always keep in mind that as part of the flock we are sometimes limited (compared to the disciples).

Often in Christianity we mistaken apply the attributes of the disciples to ourselves. Often it is harmless, but can cause harm in some situations .

(In my opinion) the living Christians have plenty of individual gifts that can have tremendous value to the christian community and that is where we should focus. I think it is hard for us to accept that God uses us "little guys" a lot more than we realize right where we are.

In my next post I will give a fine example of how that can work in everyday life.

Martin W.

Martin W. · Apr 18, 2010

Martin W. said:
I think it is hard for us to accept that God uses us "little guys" a lot more than we realize right where we are.

In my next post I will give a fine example of how that can work in everyday life.

Martin W.

Yesterday I had a pleasant encounter with my sister in law (Betty) in a local store. She is a christian and she always shops the thrift stores for used bibles to give away. She is financially secure and has chosen a career as a counselor for groups like The Salvation Army , Incarcerated youth etc.

One of the used 50 cent bibles she picked up had the name Quentin H. inscribed in the cover. For some reason she set it aside and did not clip the name out and did not give the bible away.

Just recently (sadly) Quentin died in a snowmobile accident leaving a young family behind. The surviving family was devastated but were hanging onto a slim hope that he was saved but they were not sure, religion was an unspoken topic in the family. Someone recalled that he may have had a bible but they were unable to locate it anywhere.

After the funeral, Quentin's Mother had asked God for a distinct sign that her late son was with the Lord. Separately, and on her own , Quentins wife had also asked the Lord for a distinct sign to confirm her husband was saved.

My sister in Law Betty did not know this family directly but mustered up the courage to knock on the mother's door and hand her the (lost) bible belonging to her son. It was a profound sign for the mom and she sent Betty with the bible to Quentin's wife who also took it as a confirming sign from the Lord.

Now all the members of the surviving family are using the bible for nightly group study.

Quietly Keep your eyes open to the small details nearby in your christian lives. That is where the magic happens when Jesus Christ builds his Church on the face of this earth.

Martin W.

gumby · Apr 19, 2010

Martin W. said:
Yes fivesense, that is pretty much what I was getting at. Thanks.

Jesus tells disciples to feed the flock. We are the flock , We are not the disciples.

(With good intentions) Gumby volunteered to "feed the flock" here on the forum and I just wanted him to understand that we cannot properly apply that scripture to ourselves in the same context Jesus used it with the 12.

It is certainly honorable for Gumby and all of us to do what we can for each other , but we should always keep in mind that as part of the flock we are sometimes limited (compared to the disciples).

Often in Christianity we mistaken apply the attributes of the disciples to ourselves. Often it is harmless, but can cause harm in some situations .

(In my opinion) the living Christians have plenty of individual gifts that can have tremendous value to the christian community and that is where we should focus. I think it is hard for us to accept that God uses us "little guys" a lot more than we realize right where we are.

In my next post I will give a fine example of how that can work in everyday life.

Martin W.

Lets go a bit more in depth here is it i who feeds or is it god who feeds? the basic answer is god uses me to feed the flock for his will and purpose so therefor i am being used for gods will. I receive my information from the scriptures and we are all disciples and slaves of god. Look at Luke 6:40, Matthew 28:19 abd Mark 16:15. So i will ask you a scripture question martin concerning Matthew 28:19 applied to the disciples was jesus just talking to the disciples of the time or the future disciples for all ages to come? the answer is that christ was not only talking to the current disciples of the time but for all disciples that would be baptized and accept him as there savior. God bless

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