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(sorry, that I have not gotten around to finishing this yet,,, soon though)
 
Hey guys + gals,
 
Here is something that I feel is very important,
I want to have this argument worded right,
and then send it to all the web churches that I can think of,
to see if they know how I could be in error,,,
or,,,,,,,,,,, is this really the Truth,
There is a deadline for the return of Christ,
as in,,,
a date that Christ must come back before,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
This is what I have come to call my,,,
"2020 VISION”
 
The reason for this date setting title,
Although I hesitate to say these words,
as there is such a stigmatization with date setting,
 
I feel an urgent necessity,
for this news to get out,,,
because all Christians should know these facts,
 
There is a lot of 2012 hype out there lately,
Yes,,, 2012 is a very significant date,
And yes, this world is coming to an end,
Or should I say,
 this WORLD SYSTEM,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
2012 is when the rapture has to happen by,
Then adding the 7 year Tribulation,
so that the total is 2019,,,
that way Christ must come back before 2020,
 
2012 is the last year for Christ to return,
and still be able to fulfill prophecy,
because we know that Bible prophecy is TRUTH,
God will come back for His followers,
All of us born-again believers,
 
I believe God’s timing is getting very near,
and have discovered some facts,,,
about the certainty,
Why Christ simply MUST return,,, before the year 2020.
it also has duel meaning,,,
20/20 is perfect vision,,,
(with my +5 bottle bottom glasses, this is sure not from me,,, lol)
 
Hello there,
My Christian Brother/Sister,
Sorry for the length of this letter,
but I feel that these words are all,
of the utmost importance for you to hear,
I have colored the most important stuff in red,,,,,,,,,
For easier finding and quicker reading,
 
First, I will share with you a quick list of my beliefs,
and then move straight to what I think needs to come out,,, NOW !!!
I will attempt to do this, with logic, and the details about His Word,
I believe that God wants the deadline to come out into the light,
First off,,,
let us calculate the time allotted to this “generation“,,,
Well, I chose to take it from the linage of Jesus,
figuring this out by taking the number of years,
that since the birth of Abraham,
and dividing this number by the number of generations,
 
(Mat 1:7) - “So all the generations from Abraham,,, are fourteen generations;,,, fourteen generations; and,,, fourteen generations.”
Generation =
Start = March 14, 1967
 
Then we need a start date, for when this “generation” starts,
which I discovered was, during the six day war, in March of 1967,
and not in 1948, at the birth of the nation Israel,
as they had to be in control of Jerusalem,
for this “generation” to begin,
 
(Mat 24:33) - So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
(Mat 24:34) - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
 
Well,,, what if, “know that it is near”, is a mistranslation of “know the deadline”
 
End = 2019
 
And this deadline,(door) can be found,,,
 
 
Then I will show you a list of all the mathematics and Bible verses,
that brought me to this startling conclusion,,,
one that I have trouble seeing why no one has seen before.
 
Lastly, I will tell you a little bit more about myself,
to give you a better idea of just who this warrior is.
To make things quicker to refer to, easier for reading,
and to let you easily get to the most important parts,
 
I have colored the most important stuff in red,,,,,,,,,
For easier referencing and quicker reading,
 
Please,,,,, read this through, and do not just rashly cast it aside,.
Passing me off as just another fanatic,
ranting about something I know nothing about.
I may be a fanatic,,,,,, but I have become a fanatic about God,
I try to use the energizing emotional charge and feeling,
in the most productive way for His Kingdom.
Please,,,,, read this through, and do not just cast it aside, rashly considering me a quack..
Passing this off as another fanatic, ranting about something that they know nothing about.
I may be a fanatic,,,,,, but I have become a fanatic about God,
and I try to use this energizing emotional charge and feeling, in a very productive way.
I do this by trying to read His Word daily, usually studying it intensely,
believing only the prophecies, rules and guidelines, that can be found in the Holy Bible. .
(King James vers)
 
My beliefs are:
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There is a real God = God does exist, He created this world, He is love, He is the God of the Bible,
(Rom 1:20)= “For the invisible things of him from the Creation of the world are clearly seen,,, so that they are without excuse”
all of creation, and fulfilled prophecy proves it
He is a personal God, and lives within me = in the form of the Holy Spirit,
(Rom 1:20)= “For the invisible thing
Jesus is God, = Emmanuel, God with us, (Mathew 1:23)
(Rom 1:20)= “For the invisible thing
the Trinity is Truth = I believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One God,
(Gen 1:26)= ”And God said, LET US MAKE man in our image”
(John 1:1)= “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
I believe in the pre-trib rapture, that will happen before the 7 Hebrew years of tribulation
(Rom 1:20)= “For the invisible thing
The Holy Bible is truly the inerrant Word of God, there are no mistakes, only mistranslations,
(Rom 1:20)= “For the invisible thing
The earth is only about 6000 years old, the layers in the earth were layered in the flood,
(the evidence is everywhere,,, we just choose to ignore it)
The Bible Code is Truth, it is real, and accurate, yet cannot be found until after it happens,
(who knows how much of His-story is recorded in there )
We are now living in the "End Times", the time just before Christ’s imminent return,
Aliens + ghosts are real = they do exist, but they are not what they claim to be, they are fallen angels:
(they are all male,,, no female, deceiving spirits, )
 
This is something that I have been feeling troubled about,,,,,,,,,,
I call this my 20/20 Vision, as
it involves Christ's born again followers before the year 2020.
 
This thought came to me a couple of years ago,
while I was thinking about the verse,
about how we would know when His coming was near,
and the part about how
 
I believe that we are the generation that will not have to experience death.
I was convinced, that God would give us fair warning,
of just how close His coming was.
Most everyone knows about the verse Mathew 24:36,
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man,,,",
when speaking the date of Christ's return.
But the verse that I want to discuss, is Mathew 24:33, where it says
"So likewise ye,,, know that it is near, even at the doors.".
 
This door might represent "a deadline",
or must "happen by" date,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I want to learn Greek, to see how all of His Word was first written,,,
but especially I wish to view and understand this verse,
about us being able to know that the time is near.
 
I think that He is telling us that we can KNOW how close it is,
by giving us the deadline,,,
or showing us the door,,,
but we still don't know when His Knock will come, (rapture).
 
And this deadline,(door) can be found,,,
for it says that we shall know the generation,
and to know that it is near,
we must have a start date,
to be able to count down the remaining time,
in order to know that it is near,
 
 
 
and I think that He wants this knowledge to come out.
We can find this deadline because it says,
"we shall know the generation,,,"
By starting from the date of Israel regaining control of Jerusalem,
= (as it is part of "see all these things"),  which was the summer of 1967.
 
Then, calculating the duration of a generation,
by taking Christ's linage of 14,14+14 generations-(Mathew 1:17).
This gives us a "generatiom" eaqual to 51.6 years.
 
I used this duration as it was the same duration used to accurately predicted the date,
May 14, 1948, as the rebirth of Israel
= ( taken from the book "Armigeddon" by Grant Jeffery )
 
So,,, now we take 1967.5-6, and then add the 51.6 years for the generation,
where it is said "this generation shall not pass".
That gives an end date of 2019.1 to 2019.2,,,
but certainly this mustl happen before the year 2020,,,
 
Since we know that all Bible prophecy speaks the Truth,
as the Bible is the Word of God, It mdate anyway, lol,,,
We can know this,
because we know that all Bible ust come prophecy must be TRUTH,
and no prophecy can miss.
.            Your Bro,
.            .            joe
PS: I will also incude what I have in an earlier letter, that gives you a little of my history
(could I get any input you have, good or bad, as I always appreciate any help that I can get)
(especially since what I want most,,, is to be informitive, while explaining the logic to my thinking,, on the asurity we can have in His Word)
 
 
SOME OF MY CALCULATIONS
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14 + 14 + 14 = 42 generations
2,167 = Birth of Abraham.
(- 536.4) ???
/42 =
51.595 = genation,,,
not the 51.4, which I thought it was,
 
--------------------- HERE IS A LITTLE OF MY LIFE STORY ------------------------
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I happen to be a 45 year old Canadian man,
Who also happens to be paralyzed,,,
I have always been, or at least try to be, a very loving person,
wanting to, and greatly enjoying, helping others whenever possible,
I tend to be a very energetic, a real go getter, the kind that makes things happen,
            (I have built many camps in the woods, tunnels and forts in snow + hay),
            (I was always greatly involved in the childhood gangs + groups),
            (in highshool, I had parties at my mom’s home every few weeks,)
            (I built a 16 foot x 32 foot, by 2 story addition onto my mom‘s house,)
                        = in my second year of grade 12 English
            ((I only had to go to English,,, so I worked at carpentry the rest of my day))
            (I was a social director at Jones House, UNB - Fredericton )
 
I don’t think that I ever believed in this evolution hoax,
or as I like to think of it,, EVIL-solUTION,,, lol
I think that I have always believed in God,
but I just was not sure Who He was,
I have always done quite well in my school studies,
As I enjoy learning new things, especially math and science,
This is because, I like things that I can figure out and prove for myself,
 
You see, He gave me this very inquisitive mind,
One in which I tend to let get the better of me usually, lol,
but I would never complain about this,
or any of the gifts that God has equipped me with,
 
 
 
I became born again in the late 80’s
It was the book "Armageddon", by a fellow Canadian, Grant Jeffrey,
He made a pretty convincing arguement,
that proved God to me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
 I think that I have discovered many enlightening things with this inquisitive mind,
which I have been blessed with, from the Lord God Almighty,
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things which include,,,
(1) - I try not to use the words “I am”,
as I have come to believe that this is the Name of God.
because in Exodus 3:14 God says:
“Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”
 
(2) - I know that the Trinity may be a problem for many people,
so I asked for some enlightenment,
and I believe that the good Lord has shown me,
a good way of explaining the Trinity doctrine,,,
the Godhead is a Trinity
and man is also made in three parts
GOD man
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Father = mind = in charge, brains, intelligence, memory
Son = body = your frame, the part that feels, does + contains everything
Holy Spirit = soul = personality, temperament, emotions
 
(3) - Aliens and ghosts are real,
flying saucers and haunted houses do exist,
they are just not who they pretend to be,
they are not further evolved creatures,
nor are they the spirits of dead people,
they are the spirits of fallen angels,,,
pretending to be other than they are,
in order to deceive us humans,
into not believing the Holy Bible,
 
(4) - Since becoming “born again”, I have always known in my heart,
that we were the generation spoken of,
in the Bible, that got to see Christ return,
and I was always looking for proof,
to show both believers, and non believers,
just how close His coming was,,,
in all of His Glory and Power,
and I was always looking for the proof,
to show both believers, and non believers,
just how close His coming was,,,
 
Now,,,, please spread this argument that I have shown you,,,
Spread this around to all the people that you know,
as I cannot see why no one has seen this before,
please trust me, as I can give you lots of,
Bible verses, and solid strong proof,
so that you can do your own calculation of the dates and times,
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I have been struggling with this,,,
In my whole life,
I did not ever think of myself,
as the person who would tell the world,
that it was all over,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
(there is soon to be, a new King in town )
 
Your Bro, 
.       .       joe
 
( small bio + mission statement )
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It has been since 88,
That I decided to jointed the good fight,
And became a “squire” in the Army of GOD,
 
I became born again,
After reading this awesome book,
Called “Armageddon” = by Grant Jeffrey,
He made a pretty convincing argument,
Pointing out how so many prophecies were fulfilled,
Right down to the very day,,,
 
I actually was thinking of how it might be a conspiracy,
and that the Bibles were all changed,,, lol
But then Grant showed me how it predicted,
something in our times,
the rebirth of Israel,
predicted to the very day,,,
 
So I had to admit the Truth,
There was a God,
and the Bible spoke Truth……………….,
 
With so little time left,
,,, less than 3 years,,,
I would like to work 24/7,
 
But although I have been known to go 3 or 4 days,
Without any down time,,,
I usually pass out,
for 2 to 3 hours most every night,,, lol
 
I love God,
with all of my heart,
and I want to assist Him all that I can,
as I believe that He has giving me,
an incredibly inquisitive  mind,
and He teaches me all that I ask,
I hope, that I can maybe shake this world up,
 
I want to dissolve this evolution hoax,
so that I can tear down the paper walls of this world system,
 
I would like to know how there scientists explain,
how the earth has been orbiting the sun,
for millions, if not billions of years,
without the fuel burning up long ago,
,,, and if they think that they can make up a good excuse for that one,
 
I would hit them with the,,,
“how do you explain it remaining in orbit”
while our Sun shrinks,
as it burns off its fuel,
giving us the light we so desperately need,
 
And not only the earth,
but how about the rest of the planets,
how did they all stay in orbit,
with the diminishing size, (+ gravity pull) on our sun,
over such a great span on time,,,
 
,,,,,,,, the odds for that happening is,,,
one in 10 to the millionth power
 
 
I was thinking, that I should have sent you this full version earlier,
it is one that I have been working on for a couple of years now,
I have been struggling with
In my whole life,
I did not ever think of myself,
as the person who would tell the world,
that it was coming to an end,,,
 
Your Bro, 
.         joe

Just one of His creations:
 

sniper762

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for those who believe in the trinity, that god and jesus are the same, then if the rapture is real then all of the raptured individuals will NOT be here on this earth with jesus during his millinial reign. neither will they be with god, for he (god/jesus) will be here on earth.
I PERSONNALY hope that i will be present during his reign. what a great place this earth will be without the influence of satin. i look forward to it and hope to be present.

also, this will not be the "end of the world", yet "the biginning" for all of us true christians. the "old" earth, (i perceive as "the inhabitants of the earth" ) will pass away and the "new earth" will take its place, just like the flood.
 

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one_christian_warrior,

Several things, one, long posts like your seldom get read, even when you post them on several forums (which is against forum rules by the way).

I have only read bits and pieces of your post but the bits I have read are very questionable. Your 2020 prediction is incorrect, it will be before that. Your two "coming of Christ" is incorrect. and I didn't read much more
 

01CobraVortech

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I know that the "rapture" and Tribulation are near but I have a hard time buying into the OP's calculation methods. First and foremost, I do TONS of reading in the New Age field and I fully understand all the hoopla and hysteria that's being manufactured to the Dec 21, 2012 date. Something is going to happen on that date and I know the Nephilim have something to do with that. The UFOs on this planet are connected to this coming demonic deception that's going to fool plenty of people. There is an incredible structure in NewGrange, Ireland built by the Nephilim that "struts is stuff" so to speak every Dec 21. If you research that subject you'll know what I mean by "strutting its stuff" on that date.

I know the rebirth of Israel and the recapturing of all of Jerusalem were important markers, but I sure don't know what measure of a generation the Lord is using. For all we know, it may not be the length of the generation used in the Bible. The date setting is dangerous, if we're incorporating what's in the New Age field. God has His own plans and satan has his own plans. I've come to believe that God wants to catch satan by surprise with the "rapture." So using too much of this 2012, Mayan Calendar stuff is dangerous. Then there are technical reasons that affect the timing of all this.

Many biblical writers feel that the wars of Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 36 & 39 happen after the "rapture" and before the AntiChrist signs his 7 year covenant with Israel. We have no idea what the interval of time is going to be between the "rapture" and the signing of this covenant. It could be days, months or even years. Israel is radically changed after the Psalm 83 war and some of the things may take time to manifest. Its a big mistake to think that everything will just go in a perfect linear of time. We could be looking at a enormous time gap between the "rapture" and the signing of the covenant which could easily take as far beyond 2020 when we add the 7 year Tribulation to all the time.

I believe the Lord is at the door, but constraining everything to the 2012 and 2020 formula is a bit much for me. And it sets people up for a major disappointment and advancing this could simply be doing more harm than good. We're close, but it just seems a bit too far fetched to say its pretty much calculated. Too many variable to look at.
 

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Hello Joe, this is something i wrote a couple years ago. I think you might find it interesting. I've been accused of astrology and date-setting for sharing this, but after reading your post i think you'll be more open minded than others. There's plenty of math involved so you'll at least find it interesting. Hope it helps in any way. Here it is:

Eclipses and Signs


Gen1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:



“Season” hebrew “muodim” meaning “appointment” (not autumn, spring, etc.)



“And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for appointments, and for days, and years:”



Signs:

Mat. 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:



Luke 21:25 ¶ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;



Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:



God embedded His personal agenda into the firmament when He created it so we can be aware and prepared for all upcoming major events.
Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Jesus repeatedly told us to “watch” in the gospel, but if we don’t know what it is we’re supposed to be watching, then we’ll miss it. You can be at a train station waiting for a train, but if you’re looking towards the wrong direction, the train can pass and leave you.

We must watch by looking towards where the information has been posted: the firmament.

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood…

= Eclipses​
Why does the moon turn red? During a lunar eclipse, the earth blocks light from the sun from reaching the moon. But some light still diffuses through the earth's atmosphere, which absorbs light on the blue side of the visible spectrum, thus leaving red light to reach the moon. (wikianswers.com)

Types of Lunar Eclipses: Total, Partial, and Penumbral. When four consecutive lunar eclipses are all total eclipses, the group is known as a tetrad.



Appointments:

Leviticus 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.



Another of the great tragedies of the church today is that we ignore the feasts of the Lord. We continue believing that what God did or established in the wilderness was only for the Israelis or only for that time period. But He made clear that these were His feast. These are His “appointments” for His people. Are we His people?



7 Biblical festivals:

(jewishencyclopedia.com)

(jewfaq.org)



1-Pesach (Passover)

The festival commemorates the deliverance of Israel's first-born from the judgment wrought on those of the Egyptians (Ex. xii. 12-13; comp. Ex. xiii. 2, 12 et seq.), Passover is set for the fourteenth day of the month of Nisan.



2- Festival of Unleavened Bread

(Luke 22:1) Appointed for the fifteenth day. The festival lasted seven days. During the seven days of the festival leaven was not to be found in the habitations of the Hebrews (Ex. xii. 19, xiii. 7).



3- First-Fruits

The "first-fruits of the harvest" were offered on the 16th day of Nisan. First-fruits of the field of corn, of wine, and of oil belonged to Yhwh.



4- Shevuoth—feast of weeks (Pentecost) It is called, too, the "closing season of the Passover" to distinguish it from the seventh day of Passover. Pentecost is the fiftieth day of 'Omer, beginning from the second day of Passover. During the existence of the Temple the first-fruits were offered as well as a sacrifice of two loaves of bread from the new harvest, etc. (Lev. xxiii. 15-21).



*5- Rosh Hoshana—new year (blowing of trumpets)

This holiday has no name. It’s simply referred to as Yom Teruah (the day of the sounding of the shofar), so it became known as the Feast of Trumpets, a special day calling attention to the coming holy day—the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). A shofar (ram’s horn) is blown during the Feast of Trumpets service.



The observance of Rosh ha-Shanah is on the 1st of Tishri. It is the most solemn day next to Yom Kippur. In rabbinic literature, Rosh ha-Shanah is the most important judgment-day, on which all the inhabitants of the world pass for judgment before the Creator, as sheep pass for examination before the shepherd. Three books of account are opened on Rosh ha-Shanah wherein the fate of the wicked, the righteous, and those of an intermediate class (not utterly wicked) are recorded. The names of the righteous are immediately inscribed, and they are sealed "to live." The middle class are allowed a respite of ten days till Yom Kippur, to repent and become righteous (R. H. 16b); the wicked are "blotted out of the book of the living" (Ps. lxix. 28).



Rosh Hashanah occurs on the first and second days of Tishri. The reason for it being observed for two days is because no one knew exactly which day the new (full) moon occurred which announced the new year. Hence, Rosh Hoshana is the only festival which no one knows the day or the hour it will occur.



6-Yom Kippor (day of attonement)

Probably the most important holiday of the Jewish year. It occurs on the 10th day of Tishri. The holiday is instituted at Leviticus 23:26 et seq. It is a day set aside to "afflict the soul," to atone for the sins of the past year. In Days of Awe, I mentioned the "books" in which G-d inscribes all of our names. On Yom Kippur, the judgment entered in these books is sealed. This day is, essentially, your last appeal, your last chance to change the judgment, to demonstrate your repentance and make amends.



7-Sukkoth (Feast of Tabernacles)

A festival commemorating the wandering in the desert and the final harvest. Also known as the Feast of Tabernacles or the Festival of Ingathering.



All of these feasts have a double function that serve as prophetic announcements of things to come. Not only do they announce a future event, but (so far) they give it’s exact date. Let’s see:



(New Bible Companion, Tyndale House publishers)

1- Passover: Foretold the redemption through the sacrifice of Christ. Jesus died exactly on Passover.

2- Unleavened Bread: Announced the fellowship possible because of Christ and a new living standard without sin.

3- First-Fruits: Occurred on the third day of Passover. Foretold Christ as the First Fruits of the resurrection. Christ resurrected exactly on this day.

4- Feast of Weeks (Pentecost): Foretold God’s first harvest of the redeemed in Christ The pouring of the Holy Spirit on these redeemed people happened exactly on this day. (Acts 2).

5- Trumpets: Foretells the regathering of God’s people (I Cor:15:52).

6- Atonement: Foretells Christ’s atonement (Heb. 9:28) and Israel’s repentance (Zec. 12:10-13:1)

7- Tabernacles: Foretells the joy of God’s people in Christ’s kingdom. (Zec. 14:16)



Signs + Appointments =
Preparation, Readiness
Of the prophetic outcomes of the 7 festivals, the first 4 have already come to pass. The next one to occur prophetically is the Feast of Trumpets.

I Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.



I Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

After this event we can count the 7 years of Daniels 70[sup]th[/sup] week (reign of the Anti-Christ) to know Christ’s return (Yom kippor). Considering that the festivals have so far served to show exact dates of their prophetic announcements, it’s reasonable to consider that these next two events will also occur on the dates of their respective festivals.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. 33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. …



…no one knew exactly which day the new (full) moon occurred which announced the new year. Hence, Rosh Hoshana is the only festival which no one knows the day or the hour it will occur.

Mark 13:35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: 36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

The timeframe that Jesus used to warn of His second coming was extremely small. He didn’t use centuries, decades or even years; He used simple parts of the day! Why? Because with the firmament (signs) and with the festivals (appointments) He has given us the exact moment to be watching for, yet the exact (of the two) day(s) and hour we do not know. The ten virgins (Mat.25) knew of the exact moment of the return of the husband, just not the hour. They didn’t take tents or provisions of any kind to await him for weeks or months, just lamps to await him for hours, but even within such a small timeframe some fell asleep and missed out.

Back to the eclipses.

Tetrads

Types of Lunar Eclipses: Total, Partial, and Penumbral. When four consecutive lunar eclipses are all total eclipses, the group is known as a tetrad. The following tetrads occur during this century:

Tetrads of the 20[sup]th[/sup] century:

1927 Jun 15


1927 Dec 08


1928 Jun 03

1928 Nov 27



1949 Apr 13

1949 Oct 07

1950 Apr 02

1950 Sep 26



1967 Apr 24

1967 Oct 18

1968 Apr 13

1968 Oct 06



1985 May 04

1985 Oct 28

1986 Apr 24

1986 Oct 17



2003 May 16


2003 Nov 09

2004 May 04

2004 Oct 28




2014 Apr 15

2014 Oct 08

2015 Apr 04

2015 Sep 28




2032 Apr 25

2032 Oct 18

2033 Apr 14

2033 Oct 08




2043 Mar 25 14:30


2043 Sep 19 01:50

2044 Mar 13 19:37

2044 Sep 07 11:19



2050 May 06 22:30

2050 Oct 30 03:20

2051 Apr 26 02:14

2051 Oct 19 19:10



2061 Apr 04 21:52

2061 Sep 29 09:36

2062 Mar 25 03:32

2062 Sep 18 18:32




2072 Mar 04 15:21


2072 Aug 28 16:03

2073 Feb 22 07:22

2073 Aug 17 17:40



2090 Mar 15 23:45

2090 Sep 08 22:49

2091 Mar 05 15:55

2091 Aug 29 00:35

The highlighted (underlined) dates represent moon eclipses that have fallen on festivals of the Lord’s (Hebrew) calendar. Now let’s analyze what happens when all four eclipses (tetrad) coincide with divine festivals. We see it happened in ’49-’50. This was just one year after Israel was restored as a nation after 2000 years of exile. Again it happened in ’67 –’68, this was when Israel reunited with Jerusalem after winning it back in the 6-day war. Both of these “divine” tetrads had a solar eclipse accompany them that also fell on a festival: Total solar eclipse—1948 Nov 01, Total solar eclipse—1967 Nov 02.



There’s a pattern. When a tetrad hits squarely on divine festival dates, a major Biblical event takes place. What did Jesus say?



Mat. 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel); When his branch is yet tender, (newly restored Israel) and putteth forth leaves, (Reunification with Jerusalem) ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, (generation of ’67) till all these things be fulfilled.



So when will the next tetrad coincide with the Lord’s festivals?



2014 Apr 15 (Passover)

2014 Oct 08 (Tabernacles)

2015 Apr 04 (Passover)

2015 Sep 28 (Tabernacles)



This tetrad will be accompanied with two solar eclipses that will also coincide with divine festivals:



Total Solar Eclipse—2015 Mar 20

Partial Solar Eclipse—2015 Sep 13



That’s 6 eclipses that coincide with festivals. There are no more (divine) tetrads for the rest of the century. This tetrad is the only one in generation’s reach of 1967. Is this signaling the return of Jesus? This in turn means resurrection and rapture must occur on an upcoming feast of trumpets.



This information comes from an interview with Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries. Thanks to him for his research on these eclipses and patterns. Watch the interview at http://www.youtube.c...feature=related
 

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Another of the great tragedies of the church today is that we ignore the feasts of the Lord. We continue believing that what God did or established in the wilderness was only for the Israelis or only for that time period. But He made clear that these were His feast. These are His “appointments” for His people. Are we His people?

4- Shevuoth—feast of weeks (Pentecost) It is called, too, the "closing season of the Passover" to distinguish it from the seventh day of Passover. Pentecost is the fiftieth day of 'Omer, beginning from the second day of Passover. During the existence of the Temple the first-fruits were offered as well as a sacrifice of two loaves of bread from the new harvest, etc. (Lev. xxiii. 15-21).

This information comes from an interview with Pastor Mark Biltz of El Shaddai Ministries. Thanks to him for his research on these eclipses and patterns. Watch the interview at http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Excellent post, Evanom. We are "his people" indeed, all of us who believe in Yeshua and obey his commandments! I've just in the past year started observing the Sabbath and Feasts of our Almighty Yahweh (as Yeshua did and all the early apostles and believers, until the CAtholic church/Constantine abolished anything "Jewish"!).

It's awesome how his whole WORD (Yeshua IS the word/torah) fits together! I've seen Mark Blitz's videos as well. My only question is that he is going by the rabbinical calendar, which we know is flawed. But it's still amazing to think there will be 4 eclipses in 2014/15. The times are close!

I also recently have been studying the 7 churches in revelation, and was trying to figure out the significance of the 10 days in the phrase in Revelation 2:10 where it says, "...you will suffer persecution for ten days". Then just the other day I read that after Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur is 10 days later. So I think there might be a correlation here...need to pray, and think on it some more.

Blessings to you, and Shalom Shavuot!
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I know that the "rapture" and Tribulation are near but I have a hard time buying into the OP's calculation methods. First and foremost, I do TONS of reading in the New Age field and I fully understand all the hoopla and hysteria that's being manufactured to the Dec 21, 2012 date. Something is going to happen on that date and I know the Nephilim have something to do with that. The UFOs on this planet are connected to this coming demonic deception that's going to fool plenty of people. There is an incredible structure in NewGrange, Ireland built by the Nephilim that "struts is stuff" so to speak every Dec 21. If you research that subject you'll know what I mean by "strutting its stuff" on that date.

I know the rebirth of Israel and the recapturing of all of Jerusalem were important markers, but I sure don't know what measure of a generation the Lord is using. For all we know, it may not be the length of the generation used in the Bible. The date setting is dangerous, if we're incorporating what's in the New Age field. God has His own plans and satan has his own plans. I've come to believe that God wants to catch satan by surprise with the "rapture." So using too much of this 2012, Mayan Calendar stuff is dangerous. Then there are technical reasons that affect the timing of all this.

Many biblical writers feel that the wars of Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 36 & 39 happen after the "rapture" and before the AntiChrist signs his 7 year covenant with Israel. We have no idea what the interval of time is going to be between the "rapture" and the signing of this covenant. It could be days, months or even years. Israel is radically changed after the Psalm 83 war and some of the things may take time to manifest. Its a big mistake to think that everything will just go in a perfect linear of time. We could be looking at a enormous time gap between the "rapture" and the signing of the covenant which could easily take as far beyond 2020 when we add the 7 year Tribulation to all the time.

I believe the Lord is at the door, but constraining everything to the 2012 and 2020 formula is a bit much for me. And it sets people up for a major disappointment and advancing this could simply be doing more harm than good. We're close, but it just seems a bit too far fetched to say its pretty much calculated. Too many variable to look at.

So if yu believe the Rapture theory then i guess you consider most if not all of what is in Revalation to be false. For it says that we will be here for the tribulation. We will not be harmed if we have the "mark" or word of God in our brain during this time.
 

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So if yu believe the Rapture theory then i guess you consider most if not all of what is in Revalation to be false. For it says that we will be here for the tribulation. We will not be harmed if we have the "mark" or word of God in our brain during this time.

Yes I do believe the "rapture" theory and I believe all the events of the Book of Revelation to be true. Yes I believe there will be a 7 year Tribulation, but no I don't believe the Church will go through it. I don't believe we are appointed to wrath. That being said I don't dismiss the possibility that the Church will see hard times in the near future. Much of the Church in other parts of the world is seeing horrible persecution that we are fortunate not to be seeing so far on US soil.

Btw, I don't know of any believers in the "rapture" theory that hold to the belief that what is stated in Revelation is false. Its quite the contrary. You picking this up at your FreeMason lodge or something? :lol:
 

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(sorry, that I have not gotten around to finishing this yet,,, soon though)

Hey guys + gals,

Here is something that I feel is very important,
I want to have this argument worded right,
and then send it to all the web churches that I can think of,
to see if they know how I could be in error,,,
or,,,,,,,,,,, is this really the Truth,
There is a deadline for the return of Christ,
as in,,,
a date that Christ must come back before,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

This is what I have come to call my,,,
"2020 VISION”

Have you considered this?
In the year 7510
If God's a-comin' he ought to make it by then
Maybe he'll look around himself and say
Guess it's time for the Judgement day



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I believe all the events of the Book of Revelation to be true. Yes I believe there will be a 7 year Tribulation


dan. 12 says "time, times and the dividing of time"

rev. says in many various places 42 months

dan. also specifies both 1,290 days and 1,335 days


The idea of a 7 year trib comes from da. 9:27 ...

He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
NIV.

One "7" = one "week" = 7 years, various translation.


But note this, it says in the MIDDLE ... " he will put an end to sacrifice and offering" ... the actual length is only 3.5 years / 42 months / time, times and the dividing of time.
 

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Have you considered this?
In the year 7510
If God's a-comin' he ought to make it by then
Maybe he'll look around himself and say
Guess it's time for the Judgement day



That seems a little far off. How about next Tuesday?
But please wait till after morning tea - Tuesday is chocolate biscuit day at work.
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dan. 12 says "time, times and the dividing of time"

rev. says in many various places 42 months

dan. also specifies both 1,290 days and 1,335 days


The idea of a 7 year trib comes from da. 9:27 ...

He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him."
NIV.

One "7" = one "week" = 7 years, various translation.


But note this, it says in the MIDDLE ... " he will put an end to sacrifice and offering" ... the actual length is only 3.5 years / 42 months / time, times and the dividing of time.

Not sure what you're getting at, but I believe at the midpoint is when the famous "abomination of desolation" occurs. The ole schmuck AntiChrist sits in the yet to be rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and and exalts himself as God. And our Holy Father calls that the last straw and His great warth begins to be unleashed.