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  • Therefore, since Christ suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves also with the same mind, for he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin, that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God. (1 Peter 4:1-2)
    HammerStone
    HammerStone
    Your verse post reminded me of a recent comment. Only single a single digit amount of polled Christians associated Christ with suffering. That's kinda the core of our faith - that He suffered for our sins.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    Yes :) ! Our western idea is too often that Christ came and died so we could live happily ever after. It is true in a sense... But we can only have this life after we ourselves die. It's the key difference between coming as one who seeks to save his life or one who seeks to give it away. So if we die with him, we will also live with him, but people want the second part without the first!
    There is a teaching in modern Christianity that says 'picture yourself on Daddy's knees' rather then telling us to get on ours. What I mean is that it teaches that we are 'already there', instead of seeing where we are and where we need to get, and beseeching the Lord to bring us. It teaches Laodicean that they are rich, and it is Laodicea (which means 'the peoples opinion')!
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    Comm.Arnold
    Hey Prentis my brother what does your doctrine say about those consistently quarrel over words ?
    Prentis
    Prentis
    Jiggy... I get the meaning from the two Greek words that form it: laos, and dike. Laos is where we get 'laity', it means the people. Dike means 'judgment' or 'justice'. In other words, the people's own judgment. They judge themselves rich, as the text reveals. :)
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    jiggyfly
    But what is your source?
    Man is a blank sheet, capable of choosing to be just, or to be wicked. He cannot be perfect because of his sin nature, but he can be righteous. Now in Christ, a higher level of righteousness is available, as the old nature can truly be put to death, and he can walk by the new nature, Christ.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    Yes, and it is by this training that we attain, and truly become like him. This is the 'running of the race'. So the attaining is indeed not the beginning but indeed important... Lest we fall short of the grace of God!
    Angelina
    Angelina
    Salvation consists of three identifiable parts. 1. The free gift [believing and receiving] 2. The process of sanctification [our personal walk and the work of the cross being applied in our lives] 3. The end of our hope [full salvation]
    Prentis
    Prentis
    Amen! Well said! :)
    Depth calls to go on to the fulness in Christ, both in Spirit and in character, that we would be like him, salt and light! :)
    A domino is revealed to be real by the fact that when one falls, the next does also. In the same way, the disciple is revealed. If the master, the first domino, falls, and the next domino doesn't, we can conclude that this one is either not made of the same material (character) or that it is attached to the ground (holding on to one's life, saving one's own skin)!
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    Comm.Arnold
    Nice Allegory Prentis :)
    J
    jiggyfly
    Usually if the first domino falls and the second one doesn't it is because it wasn't close enough to the first on and has no reflection on whether the domino was genuine.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    That would be another good way of seeing it! :)
    What is religious is any scheme that claims to reconcile us to God without actually changing our spiritual reality and truly making us one with him, not only in word, but in spirit and truth.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    It is funny... I can't tell anyone without laughing when they ask me my job! Yes, like Tim Hawkins, I pray "Lord, change the molecular composition of this food as it goes down that it would be of any benefit to our bodies! ;) Just kidding.
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    Comm.Arnold
    lol good job brother make sure all who eat it bow before Jesus !
    Prentis
    So much of our christianity is fixated on hope, what we will be in the next age, that it forgets the necessity of walking in faith today and becoming this today, which is necessary if we are to attain the hope set before us.
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    Comm.Arnold
    Seek first the kingdom of heaven and everything will be added to you.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    Yes :) This implies a giving up of everything NOW for a conformity to Christ NOW, rather than the idea 'once a sinner always a sinner, we are stuck in this thing until we die'!
    Hi Prentis! I just stopped in to say "hi", I don't have much time to be on here anymore. Good to see you and Jake know one another! What a blessing for each of you! God bless you!
    Protestantism arrived basically as an 'allergic' reaction to Catholicisms' selling of indulgences, selling salvation. In turn, it preaches a free salvation, which is equally false and contradictory to the gospel of Christ.
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    Comm.Arnold
    I had this strange moment where I felt that the term christian is completley meaningless. We are almost a new religion.
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    wilheard
    Brothers religion and denomination can't save us but those who follows the Will of the Father in heaven...Being in a religion and denomination means you are saved , the question is does your religion and denominations doing the will of the father? or it has it's own rules and regulation that they think it is the Will of the father... still it's the will of man the brought him to build denominations and religions.
    W
    wilheard
    we should seek the will of the Father in heaven...
    For to this you were called, because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that you should follow His steps
    Christianity is not about a delusion, that 'every day is a friday', but rather about a reality, 'that God is in control', and that he works all for our best! In this we put our hope, because with eyes of faith, we see that it is true!
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    Comm.Arnold
    Sorry for enjoying living for 5 minutes Prentis.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    I'm not against 'enjoying living', Comm. I'm against teaching that enjoying this life, and making our life better for US is the message of Christ :) Nothing wrong with enjoying a nice walk, or anything the like. My issue is with the doctrine.
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    Comm.Arnold
    I certainly don't think you are. I honestly, just thought the title was funny. People bring him up on this board a lot and I never really looked him up before.
    In the face of the reality that some men will come short of the calling given them, our attitude should be 'is it me?'
    The love of God is nothing like the love of man, because it loves, and bids man to come and die with him.
    We are 'heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.'
    Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
    Prentis
    Prentis
    Hahaha... It's in the dispenser called 'The fear of the Lord', I suggest singing praises to God while showering. It'll give you 'Faith unto holiness'! :lol:
    C
    Comm.Arnold
    lol Good nothing scares me more than having God mad at me.
    B
    beloved one
    so good.
    He who believes in me, out of his heart will flow streams of living water, says the Lord!
    He who believes in me, out of his heart will flow streams of living water, says the Lord!
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