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1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the...

My personal favorite is that because the pretrib rapture is both a loud event (trumpet and shout) and a quiet event at the same time, those left behind won't be able to hear it. Whenever a part of the doctrine doesn't fit with scripture, more doctrine has to be added to reconcile the two...

Ephesians 2:11-13 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (that done in the body by the hands of men)— remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel...

Galatians 3:7-9 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”So those who rely on faith are blessed along with...

This is true, but it still has to agree with scripture.

If it's revealed by God, it'll agree with the Bible.

Those who don't belong to God can't understand the Bible but they can understand doctrine. I'm becoming more and more convinced that many people are simply unable to see the fact that the "proof verses" for a pretribulation rapture don't say what they're claiming they say because they can't...

1 Corinthians 5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? Even...

The road map of the end times is drawn up completely in scripture. It is an insult to the Bible and to God to say that we need a doctrine of man to put all of the pieces together. Those who believe otherwise should do themselves (and others) a great favor and stop identifying themselves as...

The Bible is clear enough on this issue that it doesn't take any kind of divine revelation to see that the pretrib doctrine is false. Paul wrote that those who are alive and remain will not precede those who have fallen asleep, who are the dead in Christ (determined by the context, not by...

There really should be no debate at all, but it's a doctrine that people have been taught for most of their lives. It's often accompanied by a false teaching about salvation (just pray the prayer and you'll be saved) as a scare tactic. Pray this prayer and you'll never have to worry about that...

Matthew 13:24-29 Jesus told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. “The...

Jesus said that it would be like the days of Noah and Lot. God gave Noah seven days notice on when the flood would begin, but He gave Noah additional instructions for what to bring into the ark. Noah and his family did not enter the ark until the rain began to fall. Lot endured great tribulation...

I'm not sure people realize how complicated and spread out the pretrib doctrine has become. It has to be that way because no one would be stupid or naive enough to believe it otherwise. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, for...

This is not in the Bible.

There shouldn't be a debate at all, as the doctrine isn't taught in the Bible, but people would rather defend what they've been taught than actually seek the truth.

The Word isn't clear about it because the doctrine isn't in the Word to begin with. A fully regenerated believer will not worship a false Christ, but would a fully regenerated believer obstinately hold to a doctrine that runs contrary to what is written in the Bible? I may be the only one...

I may get in trouble for posting this, and I'll surely anger at least one person, but it has to be said. Those of you who are so blinded by doctrine that you can't comprehend what's written before you in plain English (or pretty much any other language you may speak), those of you who choose to...

Those who see the Day of the Lord and the Day of Christ as being two separate events cite the former as being about judgment upon unbelievers and the latter as the reward for believers. Luke 14:13-14 But when you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, the blind, and you will...

I think I know where this thread is headed. Jude 1:17-23 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” These are the people who divide you, who follow...