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Nice way to get out of answering questions, Prentis. ^_^ It has nothing to do with egos, and my attitude was ONCE closed until I started meeting people who actually attend churches and how they blessed me and helped me to find the Truth, then I was able to have an open mind and became accepting...

Not every person who says ,"Lord, Lord" will be saved, I think we have all read this passage.

I can't answer for FHII, but we are given grace which empowers us to be slaves of obedience IMO, what you have said gives more 'power' to the flesh, than to God Himself. It does say, He will finish the work He began in you.

That is just not true, Prentis. We ALL have access to the Holy of Holies! We all meet with God, every time we pray, worship, fellowship - are you kidding me??? Heb 4:1 says nothing about people not entering into the Holy of Holies, in fact, I'm not sure you know what the Holy of Holies is. Have...

If there was an election prior to the foundation of the world - it doesn't matter how one acts does it? Sort of throws your doctrine right back in your face. On the other hand, it doesn't say anything, anywhere about being good enough to get into heaven, in fact, we all fall short and that's...

As long as you realize all believers have access to the Holy of Holies - and ALL ENTER, then all is good. I'm not sure what you mean by "confines of a denomination"? I think you should just admit you have a problem with denominations instead of running around the bush with one foot nailed to...

Receiving the fullness of God in the Holy of Holies was the purpose of the Cross, it's accessible to all believers, not to just a select few. It doesn't really matter to me what John Wesley intended or didn't intend as far as denominations are concerned, I follow Christ not Wesley. ;) Christ...

I understand this is what your focus is on. We live righteously because of Christ.

It's always been because of Christ though. He was slain before the foundation of the world was laid. Only believers can live righteously would be a better way to state things.

We do have free choice to either disobey or to obey, it's ultimately our decision so when we obey, it's good for us and when we disobey it's a shame, correct? It's not a grey area because the Lord looks at our heart and we know one another by our Fruit, focusing on a sinless life is idolatry...

Yet that is exactly what this thread is about - entering the race, people make it way too complicated. No one said the Christian walk was easy and no one said anyone was 'stuck on the most foundational things'. Prentis, because you want to discuss a different topic, maybe you should start a...

Everyone has a story, hopeless, there are people who say they are Christian and they are not. There are people who say they love you, they care about you, they friend you - and they are none of those things. Life is not fair. The only thing you can control is your reaction to people who would...

You didn't and I didn't say you did say otherwise. lol What of non-Christians? Ok, I re-read the above and yes, you are teaching heresy if you're claiming a person can be righteous in God's eyes without Christ. There is no point in Christ if it were the case. It's false teaching.

There is a united front, we just have to go out and pursue it, yet there are even people within the united front who are immature believers, all at different levels in their walks. A united front doesn't mean everyone is at the same level of belief, so we have people who have more faith than...

There is no doubt some people have gone back under the old system, however that doesn't mean we have to write off all churches and the people who attend them and deny they are in fact, following after God. There is great power in numbers, specifically numbers in the people of God, when an entire...

I hear what you're saying, however this is never going to happen without Christ. It's impossible to present ourselves as righteous and holy without Him. Otherwise the attempt is futile as it would be in our own strength and there is nothing in the Bible suggesting we use our own strength, in...

I don't see it that way. The righteousness we have is the righteousness of Christ, there is no righteousness besides His. "No one is righteous, no not even one." I think people get confused that obedience is a type of 'works' when it is not, it is a command. Jesus said, if you love me, you will...

Yes, I agree we can reject something that once was presented to us from the beginning and we accepted. Like you have said, we have free will, it's not something that stops when we accepted Christ. I'm not sure what cessationism is.

I agree with you. I'm not sure why people would disagree. Even though God allows us to sin for awhile, the conviction is strong and it seems He won't let us remain there. He is always working on and in us.

God draws us, we accept, we grow in faith and are obedient, God manifests in our lives as we walk in Him. Pretty basic, I agree, people make it waaaaay too complicated.