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Hi Epi, :huh: Errr...I'm not twisting your words. You have clearly accused believers here of being in unbelief, claiming they follow fantasies by believing on Jesus without having proof in lifetsyle by perfect obedience to the law. You even claimed your gospel makes Christ harder to attain and...

Hi dragonfly, Here's a friendly smile for you, :) . BTW, as I have said before, forums can be confronting places and all of us can be quite direct to varying degrees. Epi particularly has been very confronting here pushing his false gospel. I hope you understand my likewise confronting style in...

Hi Epi, Unfortunately your gospel is all about physical proof of perfect obedience to the law. You have claimed that failure to live a perfect lifestyle of obedience to the law means such persons are not abiding in Christ, having failed God's grace and thus facing condemnation. And with this...

Hi dragonfly, I realize that you claim that we are not under works of the law BUT, we have very different understandings on scripture and therefore see works of the law differently. You see your gospel being about fulfilling the righteousness of the law as opposed to keeping the law, as you...

Hi dragonfly, To use the words of Rach in her response to EK, " I found so much I object to in your post, that I don't know where to start really, nor do I have the time to address such a long post." I too have been guilty of long posts covering multiple points, and I try to avoid doing them...

Hi Stan, Actually Epi normally avoids quoting scripture, so his latest post #142 with scriptures is a change. But, like you, many here have found that Epi is ambiguous in his replies. I'm sure this is deliberate. Hi dragonfly, Yes, I would say our differences are much like you describe. The...

Hi Stan, I see you've met Episkopos (aka, Epi or EK). Below are some quotes from Epi that you might find informative. 'We know that we are in Christ when we no longer think or do unrighteousness or sin.' 'Abiding in Christ provides the power to not sin.' "If one is not able to bring EVERY...

Hi Epi, Of course you're here again seeking to undermine the faith of all here with your corrupt gospel. Why would you think I was not including Enoch, Abel, Noah, in the righteous group? No doubt you use this point as just another way to get your foot in the door and sell us your gospel of...

Hi dragonfly, Did you miss my post #103 above? Excuse the small print though. In copying some quotes it dropped to a smaller size without my realizing it before signing off the forum. Regarding the definition of sin, we both understand the epistles of John and Paul differently, each thinking...

Hi dragonfly, Just a timely warning, perhaps for some of the regulars here anyway, to be wary of sedentary lifestyles. One reason why I have less time for forums now is my sedentary job combined with sedentary periods at forums, etc has led to back and muscular issues that require exercises to...

Hi dragonfly, I'm still here. Like I said before I don't have as much time for the forum now. Plus I've been trying to find that thread from which I can quote EK, to answer your question. Very time consuming as theres a lot of posts to cover. Eventually we'll settle this. Thanks,

To all here, beware the leaven (doctrine) of the Pharisees, Sadducees and Episkopos,

Hi EK and dragonfly, My deductions on EK's doctrine were based on several different topics over a number of threads. EK would make claims that any here who believed on Jesus were following fables and did not truly understand grace like he did. He claimed that perfect obedience to the...

Hi EK and dragonfly, It seems we disagree in understanding and yet each claim we have recieved, and walk in, the Holy Spirit. Dragonfly, I'll provide the context for you of when I referred to EK as a liar. It was posed in terms based on his claims to "know him, and keepth not his commandments"...

Hi Axehead, Thanks for your reply. I too have met various other believers with similar understandings of scripture to myself on various forums. I know from personal experience that unity in the Spirit and thus understanding happens in spite of never meeting the other person. It is no surprise...

Hi Epi, Thanks for your reply. I accept your not going to come out on the name of the group/church you fellowship with. BTW, can you at least answer whether where you fellowship has any form of common link in physical leadership and/or co-ordinating body of persons with the groups that...

Hi Watchwithme, I see you got a response from Episkopos (aka, Epi or EK), hence your reply above. You'll probably find, like I did, that Epi makes ambiguous claims seemingly to lead others into doubting God's promise. It almost seems like Christ is a stumbling block for Epi. Beware of Epi's...

AMEN ! Great message. It's unfortunate however that some reject this salvation by mixing grace with works of the law.

Hi dragonfly, I just noticed this reply of yours. Please consider my response (post #51) to EK in reply to you. BTW, no issue with the scriptural references about the church. I'm sure you have recognized by now that my issue is with EK's doctrine (which you say you support) claiming that...

Hi dragonfly, :huh: errr.....but that was my question to you (post #15).....remember? Oh well...I'l start then. Yes, it is sin to walk in the flesh. But in believing on Jesus, Christians do not walk in the flesh, Rom 8:9. Walking in the flesh is being without Christ. We often see it...